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House of Commons · Bill Debate

Nationality and Borders Bill

08 December 2021 · 34 other contributors

Opened by Diana R. Johnson Lab Kingston upon Hull North and Cottingham

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At a glance

Diana R. Johnson raised concerns about nationality and borders bill in the House of Commons. Other MPs contributed to the debate.

Key points

  • Clause 82 of the Nationality and Borders Bill is to be read a Second time
  • The debate seeks to ensure timely implementation and operational effectiveness of certain sections
  • Diana R. Johnson initiated the discussion on this clause

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Diana R. Johnson Lab Kingston upon Hull North and Cottingham

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time. The mover seeks to initiate debate on Clause 82 which pertains to commencement provisions for certain sections of the bill. Diana R. Johnson argues that this is necessary to ensure timely implementation and operational effectiveness.

Other contributors (34)
  • Diana R. Johnson Lab Kingston upon Hull North and Cottingham

    Diana R. Johnson argues for the necessity of Clause 82, stressing that commencement provisions are crucial to ensure timely implementation and operational effectiveness.

  • Lindsay Hoyle Speaker Chorley

    Introduced several new clauses for discussion including exemptions for child victims, introduction of Independent Victim Navigators, limitations on disqualification from protection, civil legal aid under the national referral mechanism, and support and leave to remain for confirmed victims. Provided details on each clause's objectives.

  • Expressed concern that certain elements of the Bill may restrict victims' ability to come forward with evidence against perpetrators, specifically highlighting public order disqualification threshold and time periods on slavery and trafficking information notices. Asked the Minister to address these concerns.

  • Tahir Ali Lab Birmingham Hall Green and Moseley

    Asked if more resources are needed for police to tackle modern slavery, supporting the argument that better funding could lead to increased prosecutions.

  • Jeremy Corbyn Ind Islington North

    Highlighted the isolation and fear faced by victims of modern-day slavery, emphasising the need for improved police training and awareness among local authorities to better assist these individuals.

  • Peter Bone Con Constituency not specified

    Noted that Justice and Care charity and navigators have been successful in increasing prosecutions, supporting the lead MP's argument for better support mechanisms for victims.

  • Alistair Carmichael Lib Dem Orkney and Shetland

    Emphasised the importance of judicial review availability in addressing modern-day slavery issues, suggesting potential future support for similar measures.

  • Holly Lynch Lab Batley and Spen

    Supports the new clause tabled by her right hon. Friend, arguing that provisions in part 5 will make it harder to identify, safeguard and support victims of modern slavery. Cites Home Office statistics showing a significant number of child referrals last year under the NRM and expresses concern over barriers being introduced to accessing protection for children exploited by county lines gangs.

  • Peter Bone Con Wellingborough

    Intervenes briefly, expressing support for protecting child victims of trafficking in the same manner as adult victims are protected, highlighting a need to revise current approaches.

  • Richard Fuller Con North Bedfordshire

    Mr. Fuller supports new clause 39 to address the concerns raised by the Independent Anti-Slavery Commissioner and emphasises that clause 62 lacks evidence of abuse in accessing the national referral mechanism. He raises issues with subsections (3)(b) and (3)(f), which he believes lower the bar for disqualification based on criminal sentencing. He also notes difficulties in bringing prosecutions for modern slavery and argues against making immigration law overly complex.

  • Iain Duncan Smith Con Chingford and Woodford Green

    Intervened to reassure Mr. Fuller that he is on the side of right in proposing new clause 39, highlighting the importance of supporting amendments aimed at addressing modern-day slavery issues effectively.

  • Alistair Carmichael Lib Dem Orkney and Shetland

    Expressed support for new clause 39, indicating his willingness to back Mr. Fuller's proposal in the debate.

  • Stuart McDonald SNP Glasgow North West

    Argues that the clauses undermine protection for victims of trafficking and fail to address significant problems in identifying and prosecuting traffickers. Highlights issues with delays in the national referral mechanism and lack of stability for trafficking survivors. Supports amendments 127 and 128, which would remove trafficking notices due to risks they pose to credibility assessments and discourage support from victims.

  • Tommy Sheppard SNP Edinburgh East

    Intervenes to agree that aspects of the Bill fuel the case for Scottish independence, suggesting a desire to build an immigration system based on fairness and international solidarity.

  • Peter Bone Con Wellingborough

    Mr. Bone argues that victims of human trafficking should receive automatic leave to remain for a year once identified, which would incentivise them to cooperate with authorities and help prosecute traffickers without fear of immigration consequences. He also raises concerns about re-trafficking children in care systems.

  • Iain Duncan Smith Con Chingford and Woodford Green

    Mr. Iain Duncan Smith congratulates Tatiana Gren-Jardan on her upcoming birth, acknowledging her significant work in the field of human trafficking.

  • Margaret Greenwood Lab Blackley and Broughton

    Ms. Margaret Greenwood expresses concern that the Bill will harm refugees and victims of trafficking, citing statistics from The Children’s Society showing a high number of child victims among potential modern slavery referrals. She supports Labour's new clause 6 to exempt child victims from many provisions and argues against pushbacks in the English Channel as proposed by the Government.

  • Alistair Carmichael Lib Dem Orkney and Shetland

    The amendment seeks to leave out Clause 62 as it breaks obligations to support victims of human trafficking and undermines the fight against slavery. The clause restricts protections available to victims, making them less likely to come forward and cooperate with law enforcement. It also disregards advice from Sara Thornton, the Independent Anti-Slavery Commissioner.

  • Alison Thewliss SNP Glasgow Central

    Raises concerns about the Home Office's treatment of asylum seekers, highlighting issues such as isolation, prison-like conditions, lack of privacy, and increased vulnerability to exploitation. She cites evidence from Napier and Penally barracks and other facilities that undermine health and dignity. Thewliss supports amendment 6 on late disclosure, arguing it traps individuals in a system where they must disclose all information immediately or face negative consequences. She emphasises the trauma experienced by victims of trafficking and the need for proper support and understanding.

  • Chris Stephens SNP Glasgow South West

    [INTERVENTION] Points out that the provision is of huge concern to constituents in Glasgow, particularly women who have been subjected to sexual violence and may not disclose such information during their first interview.

  • David Linden SNP Glasgow East

    [INTERVENTION] Agrees with Thewliss, citing concerns that interviewers often lack qualifications or knowledge on traumatic experiences, leading to misunderstanding and ineffective support for vulnerable individuals.

  • Jeremy Corbyn Ind Islington North

    The Bill is appalling as it does not bring safety or humanity to people around the world and will result in more people being put in danger. He supports the amendment tabled by Iain Duncan Smith but wants to go further in providing support for victims of trafficking and slavery, raising concerns about deportation after 12 months.

  • David Linden SNP Glasgow East

    The Bill is hostile towards refugees and exacerbates their risk of poverty, exploitation, and family separation. He supports amendment 128 which would remove clause 58 and highlights issues related to modern slavery in industries like car washes and nail bars where forced labour often occurs.

  • Anne McLaughlin SNP Glasgow Cathcart

    Ms. McLaughlin is deeply concerned about measures in the Bill that aim to damage victims’ credibility based on late disclosure, arguing they create barriers to identification and engagement with victims of modern slavery or human trafficking. She mentions an increase in trafficking claims due to greater awareness among detention workers and improved ability to recognise vulnerability. She also cites guidance from the Modern Slavery Act 2015 that acknowledges trauma’s impact on early accounts.

  • Peter Bone Con Welling

    Mr. Bone interjects, questioning whether Ms. McLaughlin supports what Governments have done to make the country a leader in the fight against modern-day slavery despite raising awareness and encouraging people to report.

  • Stuart C. McDonald SNP Cumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East

    The hon. Member intervened to express appreciation for the Government’s commitment but highlighted concerns regarding child victims of modern slavery and the need for clarity on support and leave to remain for confirmed victims.

  • Iain Duncan Smith Con Chingford and Woodford Green

    The right hon. Member expressed gratitude for the Government's commitment but emphasised that they will continue to advocate for further support measures, including new clause 47, which aims to ensure appropriate support for confirmed victims of modern slavery.

  • Eleanor Laing 14:45:00

    Order was called multiple times to address delays in voting, deeming them as anti-democratic practices that obstruct further business. Emphasised the need for timely completion of divisions and asked for an investigation into those delaying the process.

  • David Davis Con Goole and Pocklington

    Sought clarification on identifying individuals causing delays, agreeing with the anti-democratic nature of such actions and supporting efforts to clear the Lobby.

  • Proposed introducing electronic voting as a potential solution to speed up voting processes, noting the current delays in divisions were causing significant time loss.

  • Stephen Flynn SNP Aberdeen South

    Sought to make a point of order but was rebuffed by the Deputy Speaker, highlighting frustrations with the procedural delays and their impact on democratic processes.

  • Pete Wishart SNP Perth and Kinross-shire

    Attempted to intervene but was denied by the Deputy Speaker, underscoring a lack of time due to delays caused by opposing members.

  • Lee Anderson Reform Ashfield

    Decried delaying tactics as attacks on democracy and supported the importance of expediting the voting process for a critical piece of legislation.

  • Yvette Cooper Lab Pontefract, Castleford and Knottingley

    Critiqued the Home Secretary's handling of illegal immigration across the Channel, arguing that proposed policies limit the ability to prosecute criminal gangs and proposing solutions such as safe legal routes for asylum seekers.

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