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IPP Sentences — [Valerie Vaz in the Chair]

29 October 2024 · 8 other contributors · 12,666 words

Opened by Bambos Charalambous Lab Southgate and Wood Green

Responding minister: Nicholas Dakin

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At a glance

Bambos Charalambous raised concerns about ipp sentences — [valerie vaz in the chair] in Westminster Hall. A government minister responded.

Key points

  • MP raised concerns about IPP sentences introduced in 2005, citing inhuman treatment and psychological harm.
  • The UN special rapporteur described IPP sentences as psychologically torturous and inhuman treatment.
  • The Government acknowledged challenges and committed to support for those serving IPP sentences, with automatic licence termination for over 1,800 prisoners on November 1st.

Key requests to Government

The MP asks the Government to reconsider its position on resentencing IPP prisoners, which he believes would rectify the injustice once and for all. He also inquires about steps being taken to reduce the number of IPP prisoners and what support mechanisms are available for their mental health needs.

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Bambos Charalambous Lab Southgate and Wood Green

The MP is concerned about the cruel, unjust and damaging nature of IPP sentences introduced in 2005. He cited an instance where a prisoner served only 28 days before receiving an IPP sentence and highlighted that over 6,000 prisoners received such sentences, with 1,132 still serving them as of June this year. The UN special rapporteur on torture described IPP sentences as inhuman treatment and psychologically torturous, while Lord Blunkett, who introduced the sentences, regretted their introduction due to injustices caused.

Other contributors (8)
  • Afzal Khan Lab Manchester Rusholme

    Congratulated the hon. Friend on securing the debate and raised a constituent case where a son serving an indefinite IPP sentence suffers from long-term psychiatric conditions, arguing that this highlights the need for urgent review of IPP sentences due to prison overcrowding.

  • Danny Chambers Lib Dem Winchester

    Mr. Chambers raised concerns about the impact of IPP sentences on mental health, citing the tragic case of Tommy Nicol who took his own life due to lack of support and hope for release. He highlighted that individuals serving IPP sentences have high rates of suicide and self-harm, noting statistics such as 47% of prisoners reporting easy access to drugs and 41% testing positive on random drug tests. Mr. Chambers also criticised the recent independent sentencing review for excluding IPP sentences.

  • Edward Argar Con Melton and Syston

    The MP discussed the history of IPP sentences, acknowledging past mistakes and praising efforts to reform them. He highlighted recent legislative changes that reduce licence periods and emphasised the need for a balance between prisoner rehabilitation and public protection. Edward Argar also questioned the progress made on an action plan and sought clarification on mental health support for IPP prisoners.

  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    Jim Shannon expressed the need for reform and review of IPP sentences, noting that there were 2,796 IPP prisoners in custody as of March 2024. He emphasised the importance of public safety alongside justice and rehabilitation, highlighting the concerns of victims and the challenge of prison overcrowding.

  • John Martin McDonnell Lab Hayes and Harlington

    John Martin McDonnell highlighted the tragedy of IPP prisoners who face uncertainty, leading to despair and self-harm. He cited UNGRIPP data showing 1,866 self-harm incidents among IPP prisoners in 2023 and 90 suicides. McDonnell stressed that the lack of hope undermines rehabilitation efforts, urging the government to implement Justice Committee recommendations for case-by-case release assessments to ensure safety. I disagree with the interpretation of the Justice Committee report, highlighting it as enabling a refocusing on prisoners with an expert panel involved to ensure a staggered release. I express scepticism about the implementation due to resource constraints within the prison network.

  • Lauren Edwards Lab Rochester and Strood

    The MP discussed the negative impacts of IPP sentences, noting that two-thirds of prisoners serving IPPs had been recalled due to non-criminal breaches of their licences. She highlighted the mental health challenges faced by both prisoners and their families, citing a constituent's partner who committed suicide after dealing with the uncertainty of her husband's imprisonment under an IPP sentence. The MP welcomed actions taken to implement the Victims and Prisoners Act 2024 but urged further steps to accelerate safe release for remaining IPP prisoners.

  • Liz Saville-Roberts PC Dwyfor Meirionnydd

    Asked if the hon. Gentleman heard Lord Blunkett's suggestion that secure therapeutic units should be an alternative option to IPP sentences. The speaker expressed concern about the impact of IPP sentences on vulnerable individuals and prison officers, urging the Government to convene an expert committee to advise on resentencing. She highlighted that the current situation is unjust and called for reparations for IPP prisoners and their families. Liz Saville-Roberts also supported Lord Woodley's private Member's Bill aimed at setting up an expert committee for resentencing.

  • Rachael Maskell Lab Co-op York Central

    Ms Maskell highlighted the case of a constituent who has been serving an IPP sentence since 2005 and is still in custody despite meeting release criteria. She cited statistics from reports, including 90 suicides and over 1,866 incidents of self-harm among IPP prisoners. Ms Maskell urged the need for resentencing and reducing the recall period to five years, stressing the importance of proper mental health support upon release. My constituent has been waiting 17 years for release and I am concerned about the continuous uncertainty impacting mental health, including self-harming and tragic loss of lives. I ask the Minister to provide time frameworks so that individuals can start planning their future.

Government Response

Nicholas Dakin

The Government recognise challenges faced by those serving IPP sentences and have determined to give them support. More than 5,000 people are still serving IPP sentences, with over 1,800 set to benefit from automatic licence termination on November 1st. Changes will reduce the number of people in community IPP sentences by around two-thirds once fully implemented. The Minister outlined the role of the dedicated full-time neurodiversity support managers and emphasised individual plans for each prisoner. He committed to robust actions, annual reviews, and a focus on public protection, highlighting that resentencing poses risks to public safety.

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