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Defibrillators: Public Access — [Sir Charles Walker in the Chair]

04 July 2023 · 8 other contributors · 11,378 words

Opened by Abena Oppong-Asare Lab Erith and Thamesmead

Responding minister: Will Quince

NHS

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At a glance

Abena Oppong-Asare raised concerns about defibrillators: public access — [sir charles walker in the chair] in Westminster Hall. A government minister responded.

Key points

  • Concerns raised about uneven distribution of defibrillators across socioeconomic groups
  • Hon. Member requests information on public awareness campaigns and accessibility issues
  • Minister announced a 1 million fund for 1,000 new publicly accessible AEDs

Key requests to Government

The hon. Member asks the Minister to address the issue of unequal distribution of defibrillators and to provide a clear method for distributing the £1 million announced recently for community defibrillators. She also requests information on public awareness campaigns, accessibility issues, and workplace training programs.

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Abena Oppong-Asare Lab Erith and Thamesmead

The hon. Member is concerned about the uneven distribution of defibrillators across different socioeconomic groups, with poorer communities having less access than affluent ones. She highlights that only 8% of people suffering a heart attack outside of hospital will survive, but this increases to 32% if they have access to an AED. The hon. Member also points out the importance of public awareness and training in using defibrillators effectively.

Other contributors (8)
  • Angus MacNeil SNP Na h-Eileanan an Iar

    Acknowledges the hon. Member for raising this subject, mentioning Lucky2BHere charity that has placed over 150 defibrillators across Na h-Eileanan an Iar and highlights personal experience of Michelle Macleod's life being saved by a defibrillator.

  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    Commends the hon. Member for securing the debate, mentions his previous bill which led to 4,500 AEDs in schools and over 70,000 staff trained, saving 47 lives including two in his constituency, and suggests teaching CPR is crucial.

  • Luke Pollard Lab Co-op Plymouth Sutton and Devonport

    Emphasized the importance of defibrillators in saving lives, citing a personal experience where a councillor's life was saved during a public meeting. Highlighted the need for more defibrillators in poorer communities and called for fair distribution of funding to address areas with high heart disease risk. Suggested larger corporations should be encouraged to install and signpost defibrillators visibly. Also called for mandatory first aid training for parliamentary staff and recommended that schools teach basic first aid skills. Emphasised the importance of making defibrillator data accessible on handheld devices, noting that current search tools like Google Maps do not provide adequate information.

  • Highlighted the critical need for timely access to defibrillators during cardiac arrests and the benefits of The Circuit's national defibrillator network. He also stressed the importance of community engagement, CPR training, addressing health inequalities, and making defibrillators more affordable.

  • Richard Foord Lib Dem Honiton and Sidmouth

    Paid tribute to the hon. Member for Erith and Thamesmead for highlighting the importance of altruism in emergencies, mentioned two local initiatives: Devon Air Ambulance Trust's 'Help with all your Heart' campaign which includes CPR training and placing AEDs outside charity shops; Axe Valley Runners club's 'defib dash' to raise awareness. Asked the Government to create a comprehensive national register for AEDs to ensure better accessibility in emergencies, especially in rural areas. Inquired about the arguments against making defibrillator registration compulsory.

  • Rosena Allin-Khan Lab Tooting

    Emphasised the importance of defibrillators in saving lives, citing statistics showing that only 8% of out-of-hospital cardiac arrests survive without access to an AED. Highlighted the economic benefits of early intervention and called for more accessible placement of defibrillators to address health inequalities. Requested an update on progress towards meeting a target, noting that the academic year ends in two weeks.

  • Stephanie Peacock Lab Barnsley South

    Peacock highlighted the low survival rate for out-of-hospital cardiac arrests in Yorkshire, noting that fewer than one in ten individuals survive such incidents annually. She praised bystander willingness to perform CPR and noted that defibrillation within three to five minutes of collapse can improve survival rates from 50% to 70%. Peacock also pointed out the disparity in access to defibrillators between affluent and less affluent areas, urging the government to take urgent action for more equitable distribution.

  • Virginia Crosbie Con Tiverton and Honiton

    Thanks the hon. Member for securing this important debate, highlighting the importance of community defibrillator training sessions and thanking individuals such as Ryan Cawsey from St John Ambulance Cymru and Stephanie Roberts from the Gwalchmai Hotel who organize free training sessions.

Government Response

Will Quince

The Minister thanked hon. Members for their contributions and highlighted the Government's efforts to improve access to defibrillators, including a £1 million fund to provide an estimated 1,000 new publicly accessible AEDs in community spaces. He noted that this builds on previous work by the NHS and stakeholders to increase survival rates from out-of-hospital cardiac arrests via the use of defibrillators and CPR training. The Minister also mentioned a plan to distribute over 20,000 devices across schools backed by £19 million in funding. Additionally, he discussed ongoing efforts to promote awareness about AEDs through campaigns like 'The Circuit' and highlighted the importance of first aid training in communities.

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