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House of Commons · Westminster Hall

Covid-19: Vaccination of Children

21 September 2021 · 8 other contributors · 13,262 words

Opened by Miriam Cates Con Penistone and Stocksbridge

Responding minister: Maggie Throup

NHS

Summarised by AI from the official record, so it can contain mistakes.

At a glance

Miriam Cates raised concerns about covid-19: vaccination of children in Westminster Hall. A government minister responded.

Key points

  • Miriam Cates expressed concern over the Government's decision to vaccinate children aged 12 to 15 against Covid-19, citing potential side effects like myocarditis.
  • Miriam Cates asked the Minister to clarify measures to prevent educational disruption and discrimination against unvaccinated children.
  • The Minister highlighted the success of vaccine roll-outs and the MHRA approval for Pfizer and Moderna vaccines for 12 to 17-year-olds.

Key requests to Government

Miriam Cates asks the Minister to clarify how they intend to prevent educational disruption and discrimination against unvaccinated children in schools. She also requests that the Ministry ensures no coercion exists regarding travel rules for vaccinated versus unvaccinated children.

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Miriam Cates Con Penistone and Stocksbridge

Miriam Cates is concerned about the Government's decision to vaccinate children aged 12 to 15 against Covid-19, citing that only 76% of January to July deaths were unvaccinated or partially vaccinated individuals. She highlights that for every million healthy children vaccinated, two ICU admissions are prevented but three to 17 cases of myocarditis could be caused. The JCVI's decision was seen as balanced and cautious due to the uncertainty regarding long-term effects of myocarditis. However, pressure from the Government led to a departure from this approach based on wider benefits rather than medical necessity.

Other contributors (8)
  • Andrew Lewer Con Northampton South

    The MP questioned the government's decision to vaccinate children aged 12 to 15 against the JCVI recommendation, highlighting that children are at a low risk of severe illness or death from covid-19. He also expressed concern over the Gillick principle allowing minors to consent to vaccines against their parents' wishes and called for more research on vaccine safety and efficacy. Raised concerns about professional advice regarding vaccine roll-out for children aged 12 to 15.

  • Chris Green Con Blackpool North and Cleveleys

    Challenges have been raised concerning families' ability to access their family doctor for advice on vaccines. The former vaccines Minister could not provide assurances about such access, which is necessary especially given the government's statement that families do have this access. He expressed concern over the lack of clarity in defining success for the vaccination programme, noting that it could lead to continued rollouts without clear goals. He also highlighted the potential negative impact on public trust and confidence due to compulsory vaccinations in certain sectors. Asked why adults are recommended to have two doses of the vaccine with a possible booster, while children receive only one dose. Inquired about drug companies seeking approval for vaccinations for five-year-olds, asking if this is being ruled in or out by the UK government.

  • Derek Thomas Con St Ives

    I congratulate the Minister and my hon. Friend on securing the debate. Derek Thomas argues that vaccinating children aged 12 to 15 goes against giving people freedom of choice, considering all that has been said about consent this morning. He describes his constituency's success in rolling out the vaccine programme with an amazing system, but questions why the Government reject JCVI advice now. He fears the decision risks undermining confidence and turning a national effort into a tool to pressure children, undermine parents and drive a wedge between families and schools. Asked questions about the process of consent in cases where parents and children disagree on vaccination.

  • Desmond Swayne Con New Forest West

    He expressed concern that parents or children who choose not to be vaccinated may face disapproval from others in the school community, leading to potential social pressures.

  • Fiona Bruce Con Congleton

    My hon. Friend the Member for Penistone and Stocksbridge is making an excellent speech, but she shares concerns about the message regarding parental authority if children as young as 12 are allowed to challenge their parents' decision regarding vaccination.

  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    Mr. Jim Shannon congratulated the hon. Member for Penistone and Stocksbridge on initiating the debate, expressing agreement with her ideas. He highlighted the importance of family in society and shared his experience as a grandparent dealing with childminding challenges. He expressed support for vaccination but stressed the need for parental consent based on medical advice. Shannon raised concerns about the current isolation system's impact on children and families and called for better handling of situations where only one child is infected. He cited data suggesting that natural immunity might be stronger than vaccine-induced immunity, emphasizing the need to allow parents to make informed decisions regarding their children's health. The MP asked Andrew Lewer if he believes the Minister should mention discussions with the Secretary of State for Education to establish a uniform policy across all schools regarding children's vaccination.

  • Karl McCartney Con Brigg and Goole

    Mr McCartney expressed deep concern over the potential harm to children from vaccine mandates, citing the lack of long-term studies on safety and efficacy. He questioned the rationale behind vaccinating 12-15 year olds when many have already recovered from covid-19 naturally. Mr McCartney also raised issues about stigmatising parents who are hesitant due to fears over side effects, particularly heart impacts for young males and reproductive issues reported by females. The MP inquired about the strength of any vaccine that might be administered to children under 16 years old. Requests the hon. Lady to give way before continuing her speech. Noted that only one Opposition Member spoke in support of the Government's position. Raised concerns about testing school children for covid and suggested avoiding hype around the issue.

  • Liz Kendall Lab Leicester West

    Welcomed the vaccine programme for children aged 12 to 15, highlighting its benefits for health and education. Condemned threats against headteachers and called on the Government to address such intimidations. Emphasised that vaccination will be voluntary and conducted by NHS professionals.

Government Response

Maggie Throup

Thanked Miriam Cates for securing the debate, highlighted the success of vaccine roll-outs with over 93 million doses administered and more than four fifths of adults receiving two jabs. Mentioned that the MHRA approved Pfizer and Moderna vaccines for 12 to 17-year-olds and the JCVI advised vaccination for those aged 12 to 15 with serious underlying health conditions. The CMOs consulted clinical experts and public health professionals, and unanimously recommended offering all remaining 12 to 15-year-olds a first dose of the Pfizer vaccine. Emphasised that parental consent will be sought and school age immunisation service will carry out vaccinations in line with other programmes. Reassured MPs about the robust monitoring arrangements for vaccination and condemned threats and intimidation against headteachers and staff.

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