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House of Commons · General Debate

Sentencing Bill 2025-09-16

16 September 2025 · 56 other contributors

Opened by David Lammy Lab Birkenhead

Summarised by AI from the official record, so it can contain mistakes.

At a glance

David Lammy raised concerns about sentencing bill 2025-09-16 in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.

Key points

  • Welcomes the introduction of the Sentencing Bill aimed at addressing high recidivism rates and previous policy failures.
  • Emphasises the need for prison expansion and sentencing reform to ensure public safety.
  • Minister defends the Bill, clarifying that sentences for grave crimes will not be reduced and announces a 4.7 billion prison expansion plan over four years.

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

David Lammy Lab Birkenhead

Welcomes the introduction of the Sentencing Bill, which addresses the mess left by previous governments. Emphasises the need for punishment that works to prevent crime and ensure public safety. Highlights high recidivism rates under previous policies and outlines plans for prison expansion and sentencing reform.

Other contributors (56)
  • Freddie van Mierlo LD Henley and Thame

    Welcomes the Bill's provisions but questions the balance between rehabilitation, punishment, public safety, and restorative justice. Asks for further clarification on how to achieve this balance effectively.

  • Liz Saville Roberts PC Dwyfor Meirionnydd

    Welcomes inclusion of restriction zone measures but seeks detailed information on automatic inclusion criteria, application retrospectively, and implementation specifics to ensure safety for victims, particularly women facing domestic violence.

  • Ayoub Khan Ind Birmingham Perry Barr

    Thanks families and activist groups for their campaign to bring about life sentences for the worst driving offences. Asks the Deputy Prime Minister to join in thanking them for raising this serious issue.

  • Edward Leigh Con Gainsborough

    Expresses sympathy with the Bill but is concerned about the presumption against custodial sentences for those sentenced to fewer than 12 months. Sir Edward argues that short prison terms can be effective deterrents, particularly for persistent low-level offences such as shoplifting.

  • Calum Miller LD Bicester and Woodstock

    Raises concerns about the reliability of tagging systems in his constituency, asking the Lord Chancellor to assure that there will be adequate resources for probation services and effective supervision of tagging firms like Serco. He highlights issues faced by constituents who are victims of violent crime due to inefficient tagging.

  • Chris Vince Lab/Co-op Harlow

    Highlights the worrying statistic that one in 20 people in the UK will be victims of domestic violence, expressing concern about the Bill's impact on addressing this issue. He questions what measures are being proposed to tackle domestic violence specifically.

  • Paul Kohler LD Wimbledon

    Raises concerns about the lack of mention of restorative justice in the Bill and asks for a pledge to address this omission in future legislation.

  • Calvin Bailey Lab Leyton and Wanstead

    Welcomes measures dealing with offenders, particularly clauses 7 to 10, which respond to Russia's use of petty criminals. Asks the Lord Chancellor if he agrees that these criminals working with malign states will be investigated, tried and sentenced appropriately.

  • Jim Allister TUV North Antrim

    Directs attention to part 4 of the Bill dealing with deportation of criminal offenders. Questions the viability of clause 42 due to enhanced protections in Northern Ireland under the Windsor framework and seeks a notwithstanding clause.

  • Robert Jenrick Con Newark

    Proposes an amendment that declines giving a Second Reading to the Sentencing Bill, citing concerns over increased number of dangerous criminals on the streets due to sentencing changes and lack of preparedness in HM Prison and Probation Service.

  • Sarah Coombes Lab West Bromwich

    Challenges Robert Jenrick's assertion by reminding him that previous Governments had also emptied prisons, but through different means such as secret releases.

  • Julian Lewis Con New Forest East

    Sir Julian supports Mr. Jenrick's argument by citing an example of a prisoner receiving only 12 months for a vicious assault and then being released early, suggesting that this could lead judges to impose longer sentences to avoid early release.

  • Gareth Snell Lab Stoke-on-Trent Central

    The hon. Gentleman questions the effectiveness of the current government's approach, pointing out a 12% increase in foreign national offenders under their watch and challenging them to provide solutions.

  • Robert Jenrick Con Nottingham West

    In response, Mr Jenrick criticises his opponents for opposing the deportation of foreign criminals while campaigning against it. He calls for changing human rights laws to facilitate timely removals and uses examples to illustrate his points.

  • Andy Slaughter Lab Hammersmith and Chiswick

    Mr Slaughter acknowledges the prison population issue, welcomes reforms suggested in the Bill, but raises concerns about specific measures that will increase pressure on probation services. He discusses funding issues for these services.

  • John Hayes Con South Holland and The Deepings

    The right hon. Gentleman questions whether the Bill is due to a lack of prison places or an ideological stance towards rehabilitation, pressing Andy Slaughter on his position regarding this.

  • Welcomed the steps towards an earned progression model in the Bill and expressed concern that rehabilitative regimes remain robust. Noted a rare point of agreement with the shadow Lord Chancellor regarding the focus on combatting reoffending behaviours rather than early release goals.

  • Expressed concerns about clause 19 introducing a statutory obligation for joint approval from the Lord Chancellor and Lady Chief Justice for sentencing guidelines, citing potential damage to the relationship between Parliament, the Executive, and the judiciary. Proposed a triple lock including parliamentary oversight through the Justice Committee.

  • Welcomed Government progress in reducing IPP prisoners but noted that a resentencing exercise is needed to align sentencing with current practices.

  • Josh Babarinde LD Eastbourne

    Critiqued the previous Conservative Government for surrendering victims to lengthy trial waits and high reoffending rates. Cautiously supported the Bill but highlighted problematic provisions that need addressing. Welcomed measures such as a domestic abuse identifier, presumption against short sentences with an exclusion for domestic abuse offences.

  • Asked whether convicted abusers should spend longer in prison due to their actions.

  • Supports Mr. Darling's call for rehabilitation, citing his experience with a youth ex-offender organisation and arguing that investment in rehabilitation prevents reoffending and reduces misery.

  • Matt Bishop Lab Forest of Dean

    Welcomes Government reforms but criticises the Conservative record on prison overcrowding. Supports building new prison places, community sentences over short jail terms for petty offenders, and provisions to protect victims of domestic abuse.

  • Questions Matt Bishop's confidence in the Government’s ability to deliver prison expansion plans due to ongoing construction issues.

  • Gideon Amos LD Taunton and Wellington

    Critiques the Conservative approach as incoherent, advocating for community sentences over fetishising prisons. Discusses illegal trade practices targeting children with counterfeit goods and suggests legislative changes to combat such crimes more effectively.

  • Linsey Farnsworth Lab Amber Valley

    Agrees that addressing the root causes of offending is hard but effective, supporting community sentences as a tougher measure.

  • Andy Slaughter Lab Hammersmith and Chiswick

    Supports the Bill for easing pressure on overcrowded prisons but raises concerns about workload for probation staff. Emphasises the need to engage with justice unions, provide proper support for community sentences, address issues of tagging technology, and ensure public benefit over private profit.

  • Ben Obese-Jecty Con Huntingdon

    Expresses concern about discrepancies in sentencing and recounts a tragic incident where a cyclist was killed by a driver who received what the MP considers lenient punishment. Argues for stiffer sentences for causing death by careless driving, eliminating mitigating factors that allow offenders to avoid justice.

  • Sarah Coombes Lab West Bromwich

    Supports the Bill as a step towards addressing issues in the prison system left by 14 years of Tory neglect. Focuses on driving bans and vehicle crime, highlighting cases where families have been let down due to backlogs in the justice system.

  • I have been working closely with the charity RoadPeace, which has highlighted various issues within the criminal justice system. One shocking detail is that even after someone has been charged with causing death by dangerous driving, they are often allowed to continue driving until found guilty, a process which can take years. I also noted a case where a woman who killed Martyn Gall was sentenced to four and a half years in prison but will receive only five years of driving ban post-release. Another case mentioned involved a man who hit a 13-year-old girl at 60 mph; he already had a dangerous driving conviction yet received just a five-year ban upon release. The chronic reoffending issue is another concern, with nearly 20% of offenders convicted for dangerous driving having previous similar convictions. I propose longer bans and the closure of loopholes like exceptional hardship claims.

  • Edward Morello LD West Dorset

    I support clause 4 of the sentencing Bill, which includes protecting victims in statutory purposes of sentencing, but believe it should explicitly mention physical and psychological harm. An example is Isabella's case where she was physically attacked and her trauma was further exacerbated by online sharing of the video attack. Clause 4 needs to be strengthened to reflect ongoing psychological harm that victims suffer long after the initial incident.

  • Tony Vaughan Lab Folkestone and Hythe

    I support the Bill for meaningful justice reform, noting the damage done by previous Conservative government policies. The Bill introduces an earned progression model in prisons to reduce reoffending rates based on offender risk assessment. I also welcome measures like expanded tagging of offenders and streamlining deportation procedures for foreign national offenders, which can save taxpayer money.

  • Sarah Pochin Reform Runcorn and Helsby

    Critiques the Prison Reform Bill, stating it does not address concerns about two-tier justice, politicisation of the judicial system, public safety, prison capacity expansion or deportation. Argues that the bill enables leniency and undermines justice for victims.

  • Scott Arthur Lab Edinburgh South West

    Questions Sarah Pochin's critique of the Prison Reform Bill, challenging her party to present concrete plans on prison capacity expansion and costs.

  • John McDonnell Ind Hayes and Harlington

    Responds to concerns raised by previous speakers. Discusses staffing shortages in probation services, issues with resettlement due to funding cuts, challenges faced by prisoners in accessing courses for rehabilitation, skilled worker visa system impact on prison staff recruitment, supervision of unpaid work privatisation risks, and the need for child prisoner reform.

  • Linsey Farnsworth Lab Amber Valley

    Supports the Bill, citing its transformative reforms that target reoffending and address root causes of crime. Criticises the previous system for being under-resourced and ineffective, leading to high reoffending rates among short-term prisoners. Proposes moving away from short custodial sentences towards more effective community sentences with stricter conditions for rehabilitation. Advocates for significant investment in probation services with an additional £700 million funding and recruitment of 1,300 new probation officers.

  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    Acknowledges some commendable measures but expresses concern over reducing the length of custody for offenders. Supports a reasoned amendment due to these concerns.

  • Pam Cox Lab Colchester

    Supports the Bill, emphasising its aim to reduce reoffending rates and improve public safety through effective sentencing reforms. Criticises previous overuse of short custodial sentences that led to overcrowded prisons without sufficient rehabilitation efforts.

  • Lizzi Collinge Lab Morecambe and Lunesdale

    The Sentencing Bill will bring common sense to sentencing, focusing on an evidence-based approach to stopping reoffending and protecting victims of crime. It includes changes such as restriction zones for domestic abusers and flexible sentencing options like driving bans and travel restrictions. The bill aims to address the root causes of crime by providing rehabilitation support, addressing drug use, organised criminal behavior, mental health care, and ensuring offenders pay back their debt to society.

  • Paul Davies Lab Colne Valley

    The Sentencing Bill introduces a presumption against short custodial sentences under 12 months except for serious risk or court order breaches. It expands community sentences, invests in offender monitoring technology, and emphasises rehabilitation through literacy programmes like Brazil's 'Remission for Reading' programme. Davies highlights high reoffending rates among young people and those with low literacy levels, advocating for targeted support to break the cycle of crime.

  • Sally Jameson Lab/Co-op Doncaster Central

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  • Allison Gardner Lab Stoke-on-Trent South

    Welcomes the move towards favouring community sentences over short custodial sentences. Emphasises the importance of addressing gambling disorders in criminal justice, advocating for parity with drug and alcohol dependencies. Suggests mandating rehabilitative treatment for individuals sentenced for gambling-related offences.

  • Catherine Atkinson Lab Derby North

    Supports the Bill's aim to restrict offenders' movements in public spaces, ensuring that victims are not punished and can feel safe. Highlights the injustice faced by victims whose freedom is restricted due to their fear of encountering perpetrators.

  • Josh Newbury Lab Cannock Chase

    The Bill is necessary due to the inherited crisis in prisons. It ensures early release is genuinely earned by adding months to sentences for disorderly behaviour, includes rehabilitation measures proven effective, and introduces restriction zones to protect victims from offenders.

  • Andrew Pakes Lab Peterborough

    The Bill aims to address the broken criminal justice system inherited from Conservatives. It focuses on rebuilding probation services, reducing reoffending rates by providing work opportunities for ex-offenders, and supporting victims through community orders.

  • Paul Maynard LD Rochford and Southend East

    The Co-operative Group launched a new apprenticeship scheme for serving prisoners at HMP Highpoint in Suffolk, offering rail engineering operative apprenticeships with guaranteed employment upon release. This initiative aims to address the rail skills shortage, reduce reoffending by providing qualifications and work experience before release.

  • Tristan Osborne Lab Chatham and Aylesford

    The Government has inherited a criminal justice system on the brink of collapse due to 14 years of Conservative neglect. The Sentencing Bill is urgent, recognising that capacity must be built while also reforming sentences so that dangerous offenders serve long sentences but most offenders face earned progression models based on behaviour in custody.

  • Kieran Mullan Con Bexhill and Battle

    The Bill will mean that rapists and paedophiles are let out of prison earlier, which is a permanent change to our sentencing laws. The shadow minister questioned the 2.6% charge rate for rape cases under previous governments but acknowledged this does not change the policy he supports.

  • James Mullan Lab Glasgow North West

    The MP for Glasgow North West presents his opposition to the Bill, detailing how it undermines justice for victims of sexual crimes and child abuse. He criticises the proposal as 'shameful' policy that lets rapists and paedophiles out of prison earlier than they should.

  • Jake Richards Con Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice

    The Government Minister defends the Bill, stating it is necessary to address a broken criminal justice system left by previous government and prioritises victims and prevention of crime. He emphasises that without the Bill, prisons will run out of places entirely with no space to lock up dangerous offenders.

  • Grahame Morris Lab Easington

    Addressed issues related to trade unions and the challenges faced by probation officers due to changes in sentencing.

  • Josh Babarinde Lib Dem Eastbourne

    Spoke passionately about victims' protection, supporting specific aspects of the Bill that update statutory purposes of sentencing to consider victim protection during sentencing.

  • Matt Bishop Con Forest of Dean

    Brought expertise from his experience in the police, highlighting the issue of reoffending and advocating for better rehabilitation measures in prisons.

  • Paul Davies Con Colne Valley

    Raised important issues related to literacy and gambling among prisoners, seeking further conversations with the Minister about these matters.

  • Sarah Coombes Lab West Bromwich

    Discussed serious cases relating to driving offences, asking for follow-up on specific cases and broader issues.

  • John McDonnell Lab Hayes and Harlington

    Focused on youth sentencing and the need to consider its consequences in relation to the Bill's provisions.

Government Response

Defends the Bill, emphasising its aim to protect public safety and prevent prison capacity crises. Addresses concerns about rehabilitation versus punishment balance, clarifies that sentences will not be reduced for grave crimes such as rape and child abuse. Announces plans for significant prison expansion funded at £4.7 billion over four years. Defends the proposed Criminal Justice Bill as necessary for stabilising a broken criminal justice system inherited from previous government and prioritises victims' rights. The Minister outlines that the legislation will increase investment in probation by up to £700 million by 2028-29, a 45% increase compared to the Conservative tenure. The Justice Secretary emphasised investment in technology, funding increases for probation services, discussions with trade unions, improvements in electronic monitoring, support for victims' protection measures like the domestic abuse flag, and a rejection of arguments against short sentences. He also discussed rehabilitation measures within prisons and stated that youth sentencing is outside the Bill's scope but will be considered further.

Shadow Response

None

The shadow minister responds but his contribution is incomplete and does not provide a full position on the issue as per the provided transcript. The shadow minister highlighted that the Bill will allow rapists and paedophiles to be released earlier, which is a permanent change to sentencing laws. He criticised the 2.6% charge rate for rape cases under previous governments but acknowledged this does not affect his support for the current policy. Critiques the Bill, asserting it undermines justice for victims of sexual crimes and child abuse. He argues that no voice among victims’ representatives supports this element of the Bill and accuses Labour MPs of planning to vote in favour despite criticism.

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