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House of Commons · General Debate

Migration

15 June 2023 · 13 other contributors

Opened by Dan Carden Lab Liverpool Walton

Summarised by AI from the official record, so it can contain mistakes.

At a glance

Dan Carden raised concerns about migration in the House of Commons. Other MPs contributed to the debate.

Key points

  • Dan Carden, Labour MP for Liverpool Walton, opened the debate on migration policy in the UK.
  • Carden highlighted the record-high net migration of 606,000 people in 2022.
  • Carden criticised the current visa costs, describing them as punitive for applicants and families.

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Dan Carden Lab Liverpool Walton

Dan Carden, Labour MP for Liverpool Walton, opened the debate by discussing the complexities of migration policy in the UK. He emphasised the need for a reasonable and evidence-informed discussion on the impact of current policies, including Brexit's end to freedom of movement, asylum issues, and other areas of immigration. Carden pointed out that net migration has reached a record high at 606,000 people in 2022, despite government promises to reduce it since 2010. He criticised the current visa costs as punitive for applicants and families and highlighted the issue of labour shortages across sectors such as health, social care, and hospitality. Carden also called for asylum seekers to be given the right to work, citing the cost burden on the public purse and the desire of many asylum seekers to contribute positively.

Other contributors (13)
  • Dan Carden Lab Liverpool Walton

    Carden argued that migration is a complex issue with significant impact on working-class communities due to wage suppression and housing pressures. He emphasised the need for addressing labour shortages, simplifying visa processes, reducing costs, and tackling backlogs at the Home Office. He also advocated for asylum seekers' right to work to alleviate financial burdens and allow them to contribute economically.

  • Lloyd Russell-Moyle Lab Brighton Kemptown

    Russell-Moyle intervened, highlighting that the number of people entering the UK irregularly has decreased over time, but other regular entry routes have been tightened, forcing many to use dangerous forms. He also mentioned the high cost of housing asylum seekers and suggested allowing local communities and councils to organise accommodation more effectively.

  • Tim Loughton Con East Worthing and Shoreham

    The debate on migration should be about fashioning a policy that suits all parties over the long term, rather than focusing solely on crisis management. The net migration figure of 606,000 people is misleading as it does not account for factors outside government control, such as those choosing to leave the country. Irregular immigration through small boats and processing inefficiencies are key issues; the debate also touches upon regular migration levels and workforce planning. Solutions discussed include improving collaboration with France on intercepting migrants, enhancing processing efficiency in the UK, and exploring returns agreements and controversial schemes like the Rwanda flights. Additionally, there is a focus on utilising migrants' skills while their claims are processed, considering foreign aid contributions, and assessing population growth from dependants of foreign students. The discussion also addresses workforce diversity, labour shortages, and global migration trends influenced by ecological threats.

  • Patrick Grady SNP Glasgow North

    Congratulated hon. Members on securing the debate and expressed frustration with government policies. Noted that his office has handled over 1,400 immigration cases since 2015, highlighting inhumane and disheartening experiences of individuals affected by these policies. Criticised the Home Office for being closed to various groups including ministers of religion, women's rights activists, families of international research students, interpreters who supported UK forces, and refugees arriving on small boats.

  • Peter Bottomley Con Worthing West

    Acknowledged the debate proposal by Dan Carden. Discussed historical migration to London and the multicultural population of the Falkland Islands. Cited an article from International Migration Review suggesting that migration policies often fail to achieve their declared objectives due to social dynamics, globalisation, and political systems. Emphasised the need for controlled immigration to avoid unrest, while also recognising fair and effective policies with a degree of humanity.

  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    Mr. Shannon emphasises the importance of legal migration for societal benefits, citing examples such as hospital staff and workers in agriculture and fishing. He highlights that nearly 40% of those crossing the channel in 2022 were from countries with high levels of religious persecution, urging the government to support a pathway for asylum seekers persecuted due to their religion or belief. Additionally, he calls for an expansion of the Afghan citizens resettlement scheme to include at-risk religious minorities and suggests providing jobs to those who have been in accommodation centres for almost two years. Shannon also discusses the need for more flexible visa systems for low-skilled workers, particularly in fishing, arguing that legal migrant workers are essential for filling vacant roles.

  • Ms. Laing congratulates Priti Patel on her new title as Dame but does not provide a detailed position or argument regarding the debate topic.

  • Priti Patel Con Witham

    Ms Patel discusses the complexities of migration policies, highlighting economic migration, labour market issues, and safe routes for asylum seekers. She emphasises the importance of a points-based system that attracts skilled workers while addressing shortages in certain sectors like health and care. Ms Patel also calls for a comprehensive labour market strategy to support the immigration system and stresses the need for strengthening skills training and adopting technology in agriculture. Additionally, she mentions the necessity to deter illegal migration through measures such as offshore processing and life sentences for people smugglers.

  • Ms. Oswald welcomed the debate, expressing frustration at the UK Government's approach to migration. She highlighted cases where individuals are struggling to receive help from the government for family members fleeing conflict zones such as Sudan and Pakistan.

  • Robert Jenrick Reform Newark

    Mr. Jenrick interjected, seemingly in disagreement with a previous speaker regarding the Scottish Government's approach to migration.

  • Stephen Kinnock Lab Aberafan Maesteg

    The debate centres on the reliance of the UK's National Health Service on migrant workers, particularly from developing countries. Stephen Kinnock criticises the Conservative government for failing to train homegrown talent and for entering deals with countries like Ghana and Nepal that lead to a drain in their healthcare workforce. He also discusses Labour’s plan to fix the points-based system for non-EU citizens and highlights the ethical issues of the Rwanda asylum scheme. Additionally, he points out the financial burden of the current immigration policies on the British taxpayer and proposes a five-point plan to clear the backlog of asylum applications.

  • Robert Jenrick Reform Newark

    The Government acknowledges that more than 550,000 people have entered the UK on humanitarian grounds since 2015. Visa costs are considered high but necessary to maintain a self-sustaining system. The Government is addressing labour shortages through visa routes such as the health and social care visa. Efforts are being made to reduce the backlog in the Home Office, aiming for elimination by the end of the year.

  • Dan Carden Lab Liverpool Walton

    Emphasised the need to address visa costs, labour shortages, and the Home Office backlog before moving forward with a positive migration system. Acknowledged the importance of international cooperation in addressing poverty, climate change, and conflict.

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