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House of Commons · General Debate

Parliamentary Services for MPs

09 February 2023 · 23 other contributors

Opened by Charles Walker Con Broxbourne

Summarised by AI from the official record, so it can contain mistakes.

At a glance

Charles Walker raised concerns about parliamentary services for mps in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.

Key points

  • Charles Walker moved that the House consider issues related to Parliamentary services for Members, highlighting difficulties with pension fund documentation and the challenge MPs face upon leaving office.
  • The report from the Administration Committee aims to support MPs at their departure, recommending better access to career advice, financial support, security, and advice about Dissolution.
  • The Minister detailed plans to enhance services through surveys and benchmarking, and agreed on the need for greater scrutiny and governance structures for the House of Commons Commission.

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Charles Walker Con Broxbourne

Charles Walker moved that the House has considered the matter of Parliamentary services for Members. He highlighted issues such as the difficulty in understanding parliamentary pension fund documentation and emphasised the need to address the 'career cliff edge' faced by MPs when they leave office. The report, published by the Administration Committee, aims to support MPs at their point of departure from elected office and includes recommendations on preparation for leaving, access to career advice, better financial support, security concerns, and provision of advice about Dissolution.

Other contributors (23)
  • Michael Fabricant Con Lichfield

    Agreed with Charles Walker's point that many MPs leave not due to poor performance but because of the national political tide.

  • Maria Miller Con Basingstoke

    Thanked Charles Walker for his powerful speech and drew a parallel between the proposed medallions for MPs and those given to local councillors who have served with distinction.

  • Julian Lewis Con New Forest East

    Complimented Charles Walker, stating that he is one of the best Members of Parliament and exemplified the qualities needed in this place.

  • Nigel Evans Con Crewe and Nantwich

    Before the main debate, Nigel Evans paid tribute to Charles Walker for his work on mental health issues and acknowledged their professional relationship from when Charles was a researcher.

  • Maria Miller Con Basingstoke

    Ms Miller acknowledged the contributions of her colleague and emphasised the importance of parliamentary services in supporting MPs to be effective. She highlighted the need for a more structured governance framework, including the evolution of House Committees into strategic bodies with elected members, enhanced transparency, and improved scrutiny of the Commission. She also raised concerns over the lack of accountability and transparency in current governance structures.

  • Nigel Evans Con Falkirk East

    Expressed gratitude towards Sir Lindsay and his team for their work, acknowledging the transparency of the organisation.

  • Michael Fabricant Con Lichfield

    Discussed the importance of transparency in the House of Commons and praised the Whips for their role. Emphasised the emotional impact on MPs who leave office involuntarily, noting that it can be akin to grieving a close relative or losing one's job. Highlighted the need for sensitivity in handling staff transitions when an MP leaves.

  • Michael Fabricant Con Lichfield

    The speaker emphasised the need for MPs to receive ongoing support and knowledge that can be useful when they leave their roles. He highlighted the importance of seeing Parliament as a thoughtful place where there is often consensus and cooperation between parties, citing an example from his experience in which a Liberal Democrat amendment was accepted by the Government. He also discussed the issue of redundancy payments for MPs, suggesting that these should be comparable to those in other sectors due to the volatility of political careers.

  • James Sunderland Lab Workington

    In an intervention, Mr Sunderland commended Michael Fabricant's speech and reflected on his experiences serving both in HM Forces and as an MP. He acknowledged that there can be instances where MPs behave badly but stressed the sanctity of what politicians do and their commitment to operating with good intent most of the time. He asked how we can convince people more broadly that politicians are a force for good, highlighting the importance of showcasing the hard work and dedication of Members across both sides of the House.

  • Deidre Brock SNP Glasgow North West

    Congratulated the hon. Member for Broxbourne and acknowledged the importance of ensuring that Members have adequate services and facilities to carry out their roles effectively. Highlighted the improvements in advice and information available to new Members, praised the House staff's efforts, and agreed with calls for more transparency around Committee decisions and greater scrutiny of the House of Commons Commission. Emphasised the need for flexible and remote working policies, particularly post-COVID, and commended recent improvements like proxy voting. Raised concerns about the restoration and renewal programme's impact on staff health and safety and called for better maintenance oversight and accessibility improvements.

  • Michael Fabricant Con Lichfield

    Intervened to praise Marion Fellows, a member of the Administration Committee, highlighting her contributions despite party differences. Emphasised the importance of duty of care towards MPs' teams and staff.

  • Maria Miller Con Basingstoke

    Intervened to highlight issues related to accessibility and remote participation in proceedings for those with disabilities, advocating for better read-across between House Committees to avoid isolated decision-making that could hinder inclusivity.

  • Thangam Debbonaire Lab Bristol West

    Acknowledged contributions from across the House and praised various parliamentary services, including the Whips Office and the Administration Committee. She expressed gratitude for staff support and highlighted the importance of rules and transparency in governance. She also commended recent improvements like the new crèche but pointed out that more could be done to ensure all Members know the rules. Debbonaire thanked MP staff for their hard work, especially during crises such as Brexit and the pandemic, and emphasised the need for better security measures both on and off Parliament grounds.

  • Agreed with Thangam Debbonaire's comments regarding security and highlighted the need for improved governance in looking after MPs outside of Parliament grounds.

  • Maria Miller Con Basingstoke

    Called for House Committees to be given the opportunity to scrutinise the work of the Commission, suggesting that this would improve transparency and decision-making processes related to parliamentary services.

  • Michael Fabricant Con Lichfield

    Suggested acknowledging the Serjeant at Arms department for their role in maintaining security within the boundaries of the Palace of Westminster, adding that this is often overlooked by Members.

  • John Cryer Lab Leyton and Wanstead

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  • Maria Miller Con Basingstoke

    Discussed the need for governance structure changes, encouraging direct scrutiny of the House of Commons Commission by a dedicated Committee to expedite necessary reforms.

  • Michael Fabricant Con Lichfield

    Paid tribute to staff and highlighted unique pressures MPs face during re-election, particularly concerning their staff's future security.

  • Deidre Brock SNP Edinburgh North and Leith

    Tributed all House staff, emphasising the importance of health and safety in restoration and renewal projects.

  • Thangam Debbonaire Lab Bristol West

    Paid tribute to staff, reminded the House about PC Keith Palmer's sacrifice, and called for simplifying rules governing MPs' conduct.

  • Charles Walker Con Broxbourne

    Emphasised the importance of cross-party support for action regarding pensions and the need to improve accountability within House services. He thanked colleagues like Maria Miller, Michael Fabricant, James Sunderland, and Sir Julian Lewis for their contributions.

  • Roger Gale Con Herne Bay and Sandwich

    Endorsed the tribute paid by Mr Deputy Speaker Evans to Charles Walker, expressing support for his presence in Parliament and the efforts made towards improving parliamentary services.

Government Response

The Minister detailed plans to improve services for Members through surveys and benchmarking against other Parliaments. She also emphasised the importance of scrutiny and governance structures, agreeing with calls for greater oversight of the House of Commons Commission.

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