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House of Commons · General Debate

Backbench Business

20 October 2022 · 34 other contributors

Opened by Peter Aldous Con Conservative

NHS

Summarised by AI from the official record, so it can contain mistakes.

At a glance

Peter Aldous raised concerns about backbench business in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.

Key points

  • Moves a debate on the growing crisis in NHS dentistry
  • Notes that nine out of ten dental practices do not accept new NHS patients
  • Emphasises the need for long-term funding and strategic recruitment plans

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Peter Aldous Con Conservative

Moves a debate on the growing crisis in NHS dentistry, noting that nine out of ten dental practices do not accept new NHS patients and regrets the number of dentists moving away from NHS practice. Calls for urgent steps to improve retention of NHS dentists and dental accessibility for patients, welcoming government commitments but urging for more action and transparency. Emphasises the need for long-term funding, strategic recruitment and retention plans, a new NHS dental contract focusing on prevention, public education campaigns, and clear local accountability.

Other contributors (34)
  • Andrew Murrison Con South West Wiltshire

    Supports the call for reforming the 2006 NHS dental contract, suggesting that the units of dental activity are at the core of current problems and urging for a new approach to properly reward dentists.

  • Jeff Smith Lab Manchester Withington

    Highlights the crisis in accessing NHS dentists in south Manchester, calling for urgent action on simplifying registration processes for highly trained dentists from abroad to help alleviate shortages and improve services.

  • George Howarth Lab Knowsley

    Mr. Howarth expressed his gratitude for the opportunity to debate the issue of NHS dental care, highlighting a survey in Knowsley where none of the 13 dental practices accept new NHS adult patients and only two accept children under 18 since September. He emphasised that this situation is exacerbated by chronic underfunding, contract referral issues, and growing oral inequalities. The British Dental Association pointed out the importance of early detection of oral cancer through access to NHS dental care, a particular concern for deprived areas like Knowsley where people are more likely to die from it than in affluent areas. Mr. Howarth urged the Government to take responsibility and introduced two short-term suggestions: (1) introducing a referral procedure for urgent cases, and (2) instituting an appeal process for patients unfairly removed from NHS dental lists.

  • Paul Beresford Con Worcester

    The speaker highlights the ongoing shortage of NHS dentists, exacerbated by the transition to private practices and bureaucratic challenges. He suggests several solutions including allowing overseas dentists with good English from competent overseas dental schools to enter the UK directly without additional exams. Additionally, he proposes reducing regulatory burdens on small practices and revising the contract for units of dental activity. The speaker also advocates for encouraging mixed NHS and private services and emphasises the importance of teaching children proper oral hygiene and fluoridation in water supplies.

  • Judith Cummins Lab Bradford South

    The current system is failing to provide adequate dental care, especially in areas like Bradford where only 2% of dental practices are open to NHS patients. This has led to a significant rise in child tooth decay and emergency hospital admissions for dental issues. The funding allocated by the government failed to meet its goals due to an unworkable setup, highlighting the need for comprehensive contract reforms.

  • Peter Dowd Lab Bootle

    There is not a single dental practice in the former Prime Minister’s constituency or the current Health Secretary's constituency that accepts new NHS patients. This issue affects all parts of the country and shows the urgency for action from the government to address the shortages.

  • John Lamont Con Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk

    In Scotland, access to NHS dentistry is a significant issue, with many constituents unable to see a dentist on weekends or in rural areas due to the lack of local services. The Scottish National Party's focus on another independence referendum instead of addressing these needs is frustrating for constituents who require urgent dental care.

  • Kate Hollern Lab Blackburn

    I share the concern of my colleagues about the crisis in NHS dentistry, particularly affecting Blackburn and Darwen where no practices accept new patients. Children are ending up in hospital for tooth extractions due to a lack of dental care; 135 children under 10 were admitted last year alone. The issue extends beyond dentistry, encompassing primary care shortages across the country. There is a severe shortage of data and workforce planning by the Government which hinders recruitment and retention of staff in underserved areas like Blackburn.

  • Richard Graham Con Richmond Park

    I wholeheartedly agree with the motion on the NHS dentistry crisis. MPs are concerned about nine out of 10 practices not accepting new patients, including many children. The problem is systemic, rooted in the lack of local NHS involvement and outdated contracts that discourage dentists from providing NHS care due to financial constraints and regulatory pressures. There's a need for reforming these contracts and improving remuneration to attract more dentists into underserved areas like Blackburn. Additionally, we must address long-term issues such as training new dental professionals and encouraging private sector participation in delivering public services.

  • John Glen Con Salisbury

    I rise to speak on behalf of a number of dentists in my constituency. Nicola Jones, an oral surgeon at Salisbury District Hospital, contacted me to say that the lack of available NHS dentists is causing significant challenges in the constituency. I recognise that from my mailbox over recent weeks. We need a comprehensive solution that incentivises dentists to offer an holistic service to people of all means and help those communities that have cold spots of dentistry supply. I urge the Minister to go beyond what his officials may be suggesting to him, to think radically and to take this opportunity to ask, ‘How can we reset after the dislocations caused by covid?’

  • Peter Dowd Lab Bootle

    Mr. Dowd reiterates the critical need for the Government to listen and act beyond superficial measures such as a £50 million allocation before summer, which he deems insufficient. He stresses an existential threat highlighted by dentists and the BDA due to unmet demand and deep inequalities in access. Noting that 91% of people and 80% of children struggle to access dental services, while 75% of dentists are reducing their NHS engagement, Mr. Dowd underscores the importance of addressing the stress and burnout among dentists, who have trained extensively but face significant pressure due to lack of support from the Government.

  • John Hayes Con South Holland and The Deepings

    Mr. Hayes agrees that there are systemic issues stemming from contracts agreed upon years ago under a previous Labour government, noting also the issue of insufficient dentist training and specific regional challenges such as those in Lincolnshire.

  • Wera Hobhouse Lib Dem Bath

    Ms. Hobhouse highlights that while her mother had excellent NHS dental care, new patients face significant barriers due to the current contract disincentivising dentists from taking on NHS patients.

  • Rachael Maskell Lab Co-op York Central

    Ms. Maskell notes that in York people have had to wait up to six years for an appointment and expresses concern over the transition of dental services into integrated care systems, which may not have adequate power or leverage to address training, funding, and contract issues.

  • Selaine Saxby Con Bath

    Expresses severe concerns about the lack of NHS dentists in Devon, noting that not a single NHS practice is accepting new patients. Mentions personal experience and constituent stories illustrating the dire situation. Highlights issues with training more dentists and international recruitment as long-term solutions, while also urging for immediate measures such as mobile dental services to address urgent needs.

  • John Hayes Con South Holland and The Deepings

    Intervenes to support Saxby's comments, highlighting the issue of 'dental deserts' in Lincolnshire with 38 dentists per 100,000 population. Urges for clear government action.

  • Jane Hunt Con Loughborough

    Thanks local dental professionals and discusses issues such as the UDA system not being fit for purpose, financial reimbursement, and difficulties retaining dentists due to lack of training schools in the area. Highlights the need for incentives to attract more dentists into underserved areas and calls for measures to increase recruitment from overseas.

  • Andrew Gwynne Ind Gorton and Denton

    I thank the Backbench Business Committee for granting this important debate, and congratulate the hon. Member for Waveney (Peter Aldous) and my hon. Friend the Member for Bradford South (Judith Cummins) on having secured it. We support the motion in the form in which it has been moved; there is nothing in it that we disagree with. My right hon. Friend is absolutely right. There is no reason why the Government cannot expedite action on the issues he mentioned in his contribution and get those improvements in place. I pay tribute to my right hon. Friend and to my hon. Friends the Members for Blackburn (Kate Hollern) and for Bootle (Peter Dowd), as well as the hon. Members for Bath (Wera Hobhouse), for Mole Valley (Sir Paul Beresford), for Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk (John Lamont), for Gloucester (Richard Graham), for Salisbury (John Glen), for North Devon (Selaine Saxby) and for Loughborough (Jane Hunt), for their contributions. I welcome the Minister to his place. The backlog has not helped—we all acknowledge that; it goes without saying—but the Government’s spend on general dental practices in England has been cut by more than a third over the past decade, with the number of NHS dental practices in England falling by more than 1,200 in the five years prior to the pandemic. My hon. Friend the Member for Bradford South (Judith Cummins) raised that, and it cannot be ignored. The Minister’s next line of defence will be, “It’s all because of the dental contract.” There is some truth in that; however, after 12 years of this Government, I am afraid the line will not wash that it is solely the contract. We hear about the ABCD plan, and at least there is a recognition of dentistry. However, like my right hon. Friend the Member for Knowsley (Sir George Howarth), I worry that this kind of “Sesame Street” strategy does not come close to tackling the scale of the emergency that is gripping dental care. All we have heard from the Secretary of State is sticking-plaster solutions that tiptoe around the edges while failing to address the root cause. That is apparent in the Government’s “hit and hope” approach to dentistry. The £50 million of emergency funding announced earlier this year has done precious little to improve access. In fact, figures obtained by the British Dental Association showed that just 17.9% of that funding was drawn down. This is indicative of a sector that has completely lost faith in the Government’s ability to act. I fully support what the hon. Member for Waveney and other hon. Members on both sides of the House have said about education. Dentistry in schools, a prevention strategy and an emphasis on good oral health is absolutely crucial. The consensus and mood is there to get that done, so I hope the Minister will take that up and get going on that opportunity. As for many issues facing our NHS, much of the problem with NHS dentistry can be traced back to one thing: workforce. Any hope of an NHS recovery must be underpinned by a comprehensive workforce strategy. Where is that strategy? Was it accidentally shredded with the mini-Budget? I am sure the Minister will hail the fact that NHS stats show an increase of 539 dentists practising in 2021-22, compared with the year before. However, there is not much to be positive about beneath the surface.

  • George Howarth Lab Knowsley

    I agree with him about the motion, but I did make the point that there were some short-term measures that could, and should, be taken within the three-month period that the motion envisages before the Government report back on progress.

  • Will Quince Con Colchester North

    The Minister thanked Andrew Gwynne for his kind words, congratulated Peter Aldous and Judith Cummins on securing the debate time, and acknowledged NHS dentistry workers. He promised to respond constructively to points raised in the debate and stated his commitment to improving access to dental care through steps like increasing funding, reforming contracts, and enhancing local accountability via integrated care systems. Quince emphasised the importance of transparency regarding which dentists are accepting new patients and addressed misconceptions about patient registration with dentists.

  • Richard Graham Con Gloucester

    Graham highlighted the importance of giving chief executives of integrated care systems the opportunity to take responsibility for dental services, welcoming Quince's support for this approach.

  • Wera Hobhouse Lib Dem Bath

    Hobhouse pointed out that due to the current contract structure, NHS dentists prefer continuing relationships with existing patients over taking on new ones, creating a disincentive for accepting new patients despite technical rules allowing it.

  • George Howarth Lab Knowsley

    Howarth asked Quince to address short-term measures that could improve the situation for those seeking NHS dental care. He noted that many practices are not currently taking on new NHS patients despite official guidelines allowing it.

  • George Howarth Lab Knowsley

    Highlighted the importance of addressing oral cancer quickly, proposing short-term fast-tracking of emergency support.

  • Paul Beresford Con Mole Valley

    Suggested a short-term simple contract to tackle the backlog in NHS dentistry.

  • Judith Cummins Lab Bradford South

    Noted that £50 million was made available but hardly any of it has been spent due to systemic issues.

  • John Lamont Con Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk

    Stressed the issue is not limited to England; Scotland also faces similar problems with NHS dentistry.

  • Kate Hollern Lab Blackburn

    Mentioned the importance of workforce planning in tackling the crisis.

  • Richard Graham Con Gloucester

    Emphasised the significance of local NHS involvement and collaboration.

  • Wera Hobhouse Lib Dem Bath

    Highlighted the alarming rise of DIY dentistry as a consequence of limited access to professional dental care.

  • John Glen Con Salisbury

    Stressed the importance of adopting a short-term UDA model, suggesting it is necessary to bring NHS practices up-to-date.

  • Peter Dowd Lab Bootle

    Noted previous attempts at addressing similar issues and called for urgent action.

  • Selaine Saxby Con North Devon

    Proposed using buses to increase accessibility to dental care as a method of improving patient reach.

  • Jane Hunt Con Loughborough

    Reiterated the need for short-term arrangements to alleviate the immediate crisis in NHS dentistry.

Government Response

Quince responded to interventions by noting the importance of local accountability and commissioning flexibility. He addressed misconceptions about patient registration with dentists and emphasised his commitment to improving access to urgent dental care, providing better support for new patients, and reforming workforce practices.

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