Commons Sense

House of Commons · Ministerial Statement

Sewage Pollution

06 September 2022 · 54 other contributors

Opened by George Eustice Con Cornwall North

Summarised by AI from the official record, so it can contain mistakes.

At a glance

George Eustice raised concerns about sewage pollution in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.

Key points

  • Government announced a comprehensive strategy to address sewage discharges from storm overflows
  • Current investment is 3.1 billion to improve 800 storm overflows by 2025
  • Aims for a 25% reduction in sewage discharges from storm overflows

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Government Statement

Secretary of State George Eustice announced the Government's comprehensive strategy to address sewage discharges from storm overflows, emphasising the Environment Act 2021 which mandates water companies to reduce environmental harm caused by these discharges. The current investment stands at £3.1 billion to improve 800 storm overflows across England by 2025, aiming for a 25% reduction in sewage discharges. Monitoring of storm overflows has significantly increased from only 5% monitored in 2016 to almost 90% now and will reach 100% next year. The Environment Agency and Ofwat have initiated extensive investigations and prosecutions against water companies, securing £140 million in fines since 2015. By 2035, designated bathing waters must meet strict standards for public health, with a target of significant reductions at high-priority sites by the same year. The overall plan involves an estimated £56 billion investment over 25 years to address these issues.

Other contributors (54)
  • Caroline Lucas Green Brighton Pavilion

    Question

    Lucas questioned the Government's complacency and urgency regarding sewage discharges, highlighting the delays in addressing pollution until 2035 for designated areas and 2050 elsewhere. She also criticised the legalisation of sewage discharge during non-heavy rainfall periods, cuts to the Environment Agency under a previous Minister, and dividends awarded to shareholders. Additionally, she raised concerns about compensation for businesses negatively impacted by such discharges.

    Minister reply

    Eustice defended the Government's prioritisation of this issue since his appointment as Secretary of State in 2020. He explained that long-term infrastructure changes are necessary and investing now is crucial to prevent sewage from backing up into homes. While acknowledging cost concerns, he emphasised fair funding through Ofwat's regulatory measures and targeted investments towards high-priority sites starting with bathing waters by 2035.

  • Peter Bottomley Con Worthing West

    Question

    Mr Bottomley questioned whether nationalised industries would have allowed sufficient investment and inquired about the level of knowledge held by companies, regulators, and the Environment Agency regarding sewage discharges.

    Minister reply

    The Secretary of State stated that it was only under this Government's monitoring requirements that the extent of the problem became apparent. He highlighted that previous Governments had not adequately monitored the issue, leading to a lack of recognition of its scale until now.

  • Jim McMahon Lab Co-op Oldham West, Chadderton and Royton

    Question

    Mr McMahon criticised the Government for allowing sewage discharges into beaches, playing fields, streams, and bathing waters. He pointed out that 18 spills will occur during his speech's duration and accused the water companies of profiting while dumping raw sewage.

    Minister reply

    The Secretary of State responded by stating that this is the first Government to increase monitoring and set a £56 billion investment plan to tackle sewage discharges. He emphasised that previous Governments had not prioritised this issue as much.

  • Robert Goodwill Con Scarborough and Whitby

    Question

    Mr Goodwill asked whether the Secretary of State agreed that private sector investment has led to improvements in water treatment works, citing specific examples in Scarborough.

    Minister reply

    The Secretary of State concurred with Mr Goodwill's statement, acknowledging the investments made by the private sector and emphasising that monitoring was not as robust under nationalisation.

  • Meg Hillier Lab Co-op Hackney South and Shoreditch

    Question

    Ms Hillier questioned why prosecutions and fines were not leading to quicker investments to prevent sewage discharges, citing a specific incident in the River Lea.

    Minister reply

    The Secretary of State explained that this is the first Government to require proper monitoring for storm overflows and to bring prosecutions against water companies.

  • Neil Hudson Con Epping Forest

    Question

    Mr Hudson thanked the Secretary of State for his clarity in addressing sewage discharges, criticising the Liberal Democrats' approach.

    Minister reply

    The Secretary of State responded without further elaboration.

  • Tim Farron Lib Dem Westmorland and Lonsdale

    Question

    Mr Farron raised specific instances of sewage discharges in different locations, questioning the legality of these actions and the water companies' profits.

    Minister reply

    The Secretary of State noted that the Environment Act addresses the issues highlighted by Mr Farron, including regulation of dividends based on environmental performance.

  • Rebecca Pow Con Taunton Deane

    Question

    Ms Pow thanked her right hon. Friend for prioritising sewage discharge issues and emphasised the importance of regulator actions and water company accountability.

    Minister reply

    The Secretary of State commended Ms Pow's work on the Environment Act, which grants Ofwat new abilities to scrutinise dividend awards.

  • Rosie Duffield Ind Canterbury

    Question

    Ms Duffield expressed concern over sewage discharges affecting her constituency and invited a Minister to meet local groups.

    Minister reply

    The Secretary of State acknowledged the record fine imposed on Southern Water and indicated willingness for a Minister to visit Canterbury upon request.

  • Jesse Norman Con Hereford and South Herefordshire

    Question

    Asks about the River Wye being threatened by phosphate pollution, which crosses borders between Wales and England, and suggests future administrations should press cross-border issues for improvement.

    Minister reply

    Acknowledges the cross-border issue and mentions ongoing consultation on reducing nutrient pollution from agriculture and sewage treatment works.

  • Maria Eagle Lab Liverpool Garston

    Question

    Raises concerns about significant sewage releases into the River Mersey by United Utilities and demands quicker infrastructure investment.

    Minister reply

    States that £3.1 billion will be invested up to 2025 on overflows, leading to a 25% reduction in discharges.

  • Martin Vickers Con Brigg and Immingham

    Question

    Questions whether targets set for reducing sewage discharge are adequate, particularly in Cleethorpes.

    Minister reply

    Emphasises the need to balance bill impacts with investment, stating that £3 billion will be spent by 2025 and a review is planned for 2027.

  • Emma Lewell Lab South Shields

    Question

    Raises issue of sewage dumping on beaches in her constituency and questions the £660 billion cost estimate for sewer upgrades.

    Minister reply

    Reiterates that the full removal of storm overflows would cost up to £600 billion, but the Government is investing £56 billion to target harmful discharges.

  • Question

    Asks for Welsh Government responsibility in addressing sewage discharge issues around Anglesey.

    Minister reply

    States that England has set an example with its storm overflow discharge reduction plan and calls on the Welsh Government to play their part.

  • Andy McDonald Lab Middlesbrough and Thornaby East

    Question

    Describes ecological disaster in Tees bay involving dead marine life, pyridine levels, and dredging concerns.

    Minister reply

    Orders investigation by Centre for Environment, Fisheries and Aquaculture Science which concludes that it is likely caused by a natural algal bloom event.

  • Question

    Highlights combined sewer overflow issues in his constituency, suggesting the origin of the problem lies with Victorian drainage systems.

    Minister reply

    Notes that new housing developments have often ended up plumbed back into the sewer system and water companies will prioritise separating these systems.

  • Luke Pollard Lab Co-op Plymouth Sutton and Devonport

    Question

    Asks for South West Water to publish a full list of sewage outlets intended to be closed.

    Minister reply

    Mentions increased monitoring, which led to prosecutions against companies, and notes that 100% coverage will be achieved.

  • Question

    Raises issues regarding overflows in the Isle of Wight and suggests bringing forward legal timescales for action.

    Minister reply

    Differentiates between water companies failing to abide by permit conditions and the issue of long-term investment infrastructure.

  • Khalid Mahmood Lab Birmingham, Perry Barr

    Question

    The Secretary of State continues to talk about the discharges and how he is trying to catch up with the water companies, but the reality is that we should be surcharging the water companies for the continuous abuse of our rivers, streams, play areas, seas, and everywhere this gets into. He suggests bringing prosecutions where a company is in breach of its permits, but if they cannot pay the surcharge, he should bring this back into public ownership.

    Minister reply

    We have brought many prosecutions since 2015 and levied fines of about £140 million on the industry. In one case, that precipitated a change in ownership of a water company. The right thing to do is bring prosecutions where a company is in breach of its permits.

  • Huw Merriman Con Bexhill and Battle

    Question

    The Secretary of State’s plan prioritises bathing waters in near-term investments, but may I ask him to ensure that the areas that do not have good-quality bathing have a higher degree of prioritisation?

    Minister reply

    I absolutely give my hon. Friend that assurance. Our discharge reduction plan prioritises bathing waters in those near-term investments.

  • Kate Osborne Lab Jarrow

    Question

    While water companies such as Northumbria Water have made on average £2 billion profit a year since privatisation, filthy raw sewage is being dumped into our playing fields, beaches and waters. Will the Secretary of State act on this immediately or is he content with environmentally criminal behaviour?

    Minister reply

    We are not content with criminal behaviour; we are bringing record numbers of prosecutions. The Environment Act 2021 gives us new powers, and Ofwat is currently consulting on measures linking dividend payments to environmental performance.

  • Tim Loughton Con East Worthing and Shoreham

    Question

    What we need is better inspection and enforcement by the Environment Agency, and better explanations from water companies when spills occur. If they are lacking, the companies need to be penalised.

    Minister reply

    We require water companies to make available to the Environment Agency all discharge data from storm overflows, and to publish it in near real time for the public. We shall continue to bring prosecutions where there are breaches of licence conditions.

  • Mike Amesbury Lab Warrington South

    Question

    Despite 12 years of Tory government, tonnes of sewage are discharged daily by United Utilities in my constituency. The current system is not working.

    Minister reply

    I am the first Secretary of State ever to publish a plan such as this. In 2020, I instructed officials to change the strategic policy statement for Ofwat, which prioritised reduction of storm overflows.

  • John Whittingdale Con Maldon

    Question

    What progress is being made to require water companies to provide additional investment for microbiological treatment to prevent things like E. coli contamination?

    Minister reply

    We are requiring water companies to use techniques that will disinfect water to prevent E. coli counts in aquatic environments.

  • Jeremy Corbyn Ind Islington North

    Question

    All these years of privatisation and the billions paid out in dividends have meant not enough investment, leading to excessive sewage discharges. Should we bring our water industry into public ownership?

    Minister reply

    The original vision was for publicly listed companies on the London stock exchange, but private equity operators took over. We are changing legal powers through the Environment Act 2021 to strengthen regulation.

  • Duncan Baker Con Orkney and Shetland

    Question

    Can the Secretary of State confirm that without our work, we would never have highlighted improper use of storm overflows?

    Minister reply

    When I became Secretary of State, I prioritised this long before it was an issue in the media. Many Members played a crucial role in making sure that we got the legislation right.

  • Barry Sheerman Lab Huddersfield

    Question

    Water privatisation has been a miserable failure, and most water companies are owned by foreign investment companies.

    Minister reply

    The Government have changed our legal powers through the Environment Act 2021 to strengthen regulation and require improved monitoring. We are now bringing record numbers of prosecutions.

  • Bill Wiggin Con North Herefordshire

    Question

    Please will he use his time in office to stop Natural England from pursuing the moratorium policy?

    Minister reply

    We published proposals to make changes to deal with this issue on a strategic level before the summer recess, and we may need legislative changes as challenges highlight a legacy of EU law.

  • Clive Efford Lab Eltham

    Question

    Why has the situation got worse over 33 years since privatisation?

    Minister reply

    The failure to address storm overflows goes back much further. This is a legacy of Victorian infrastructure, and no Government down the decades properly grasped it.

  • Robbie Moore Con Keighley and Ilkley

    Question

    Constituents in Ilkley are suffering from repeated sewage spills into the River Wharfe due to a malfunctioning manhole cover. Does the Secretary of State agree that Yorkshire Water needs to address this issue urgently?

    Minister reply

    The Environment Agency is prioritising investigations into around 2,200 sewage treatment works and will focus on such challenges as raised by the MP.

  • Clive Betts Lab Sheffield South East

    Question

    A constituent's home was damaged due to sewage overflow caused by heavy rainfall. Yorkshire Water refuses compensation, citing outdated legislation. Should we amend laws so that water companies are responsible for compensating affected residents?

    Minister reply

    The incident may be linked to a failure in the sewage infrastructure rather than storm overflows. The MP is advised to write regarding the specific case.

  • Question

    What can be done about the River Gipping which has become polluted with algae and shopping trolleys? Who should take responsibility for improving its condition?

    Minister reply

    Local authorities handle street drainage infrastructure, while the Environment Agency manages fluvial flood risk. Both entities often collaborate on addressing such issues.

  • Richard Foord Lib Dem Honiton and Sidmouth

    Question

    South West Water received a one-star rating from the Environment Agency but executives still got bonuses worth £2.2 million over two years. How does the Secretary of State feel about this situation?

    Minister reply

    The Environment Act 2021 grants Ofwat new powers to tie dividend payments with environmental performance and addresses storm overflow challenges.

  • Question

    In Cornwall, the problem of sewage pollution affecting shell fishermen is serious. Should water companies face unlimited fines and criminal penalties if they do not comply with their obligations?

    Minister reply

    A record number of investigations and prosecutions are being conducted against non-compliant water companies. The new Environment Act 2021 also tackles agricultural diffuse pollution.

  • Valerie Vaz Lab Walsall and Bloxwich

    Question

    Pollution incidents must be treated as strict liability offences with the Environment Agency having immediate powers to stop such discharges. How does the Minister feel about this suggestion?

    Minister reply

    The Environment Agency has all necessary powers to prosecute, fine, and require changes. The issue of accurate data is being addressed through new monitoring.

  • Question

    Pollution incidents in North Devon are down by 83% this year compared to last year due to improved monitoring. Does the Secretary of State agree that misinformation about this issue can harm coastal businesses?

    Minister reply

    The new plan prioritises accurate data and distinguishes between storm water discharge from foul water discharges for environmental impact.

  • Mary Foy Lab City of Durham

    Question

    Northumbrian Water discharged large amounts of raw sewage into rivers in Durham last year. Does the Minister believe that cuts to the Environment Agency's budget have impacted monitoring and enforcement?

    Minister reply

    The Environment Agency has increased grant funding since 2010, and cost recovery for monitoring is through permits issued.

  • Question

    Is it prudent to eliminate all storm overflows given the potential financial burden of £600 billion, which would significantly increase household water bills?

    Minister reply

    The Government's plan prioritises harmful discharges with an investment of £3 billion until 2025 and £56 billion overall.

  • Fleur Anderson Lab Putney

    Question

    Wet wipes are causing significant pollution in the Thames. When will the results of the consultation on banning non-biodegradable wet wipes be released?

    Minister reply

    The Government is consulting on steps to deal with non-biodegradable wet wipes, and consultations typically conclude within nine to 12 months.

  • Question

    Severn Trent Water has committed to cutting discharges by 85% by the end of 2024. Should these companies face consequences if they do not meet their commitments?

    Minister reply

    The Government is working closely with water companies, and many are accelerating investment plans discussed with Ofwat.

  • Liz Twist Lab Blaydon and Consett

    Question

    It must be apparent from the response to the news of the combined sewer overflows that the public, our constituents, do not believe we are doing enough to stop them happening. Last year, the Government had the chance to go further in the Environment Act 2021, but did not do so. People are concerned about the impact on their health and the environment. What assessment has the Secretary of State made of the health impact of CSOs, and will he look at speeding up the timetable for stopping them?

    Minister reply

    The Environment Act addresses those issues, and this Government and Conservative Members voted for the changes that put in place the legal powers we need to address the challenge. We are already talking to water companies about bringing forward investment into the current pricing review period. There will be more than £3 billion-worth of investment up until 2025 and a review in 2027 whether we can accelerate the plan further.

  • Question

    I am very proud to have the Rivers Usk and Wye in my constituency but, as has already been said, the Wye flows from my constituency into England and back again. Last year, I asked the then Environment Minister, my hon. Friend the Member for Taunton Deane (Rebecca Pow), to chair a roundtable of all parties with her counterpart in the Welsh Government. She kindly agreed to that, but the Welsh Labour Minister told me there was no value in such a meeting. Can the Secretary of State advise me on how we can drag the Welsh Government to the table and engage with them on this issue?

    Minister reply

    My hon. Friend raises an important point. We are taking clear and assertive action in England, but need devolved Administrations, particularly Wales, to play their part as well. I would advise her to work with Members of the Welsh Assembly to try to bring matters to a head.

  • Question

    Could the Secretary of State send a copy of the statement he has made today to those people who claim to run Thames Water? So far in their correspondence with me they have refused to give any undertakings about keeping drains and overflows clear. They also refused to attend two public meetings in Leytonstone in my constituency on the flooding—in fact, getting a papal audience would be easier than getting constructive information from Thames Water. I hope I am wrong about this, but despite the Secretary of State’s best efforts I suspect that Thames Water will continue to treat elected representatives and consumers with contempt.

    Minister reply

    That is very disappointing if what the hon. Gentleman says is right. The key role of Government is to ensure we have legal powers for bringing prosecutions where necessary, and setting in place strategic plans to require investment necessary to deal with this problem.

  • Question

    Does the Secretary of State agree that what we need in this debate is some cool, some balance and to deal in the facts? There has been some deeply grubby, irresponsible scaremongering over the summer from some of the usual suspects. In the spirit of honesty and truth—I appreciate that 2035 is a long way away; too long for many of my constituents—can the Secretary of State tell the House the cold, hard choices that he and his potential successor face, and I suppose therefore water bill payers in our constituencies face, to speed things up significantly?

    Minister reply

    It is not the case that nothing will be done until 2035. Indeed, investments are happening now to improve more than 800 priority storm overflows. We will see a reduction in discharges across the country of around 25% by 2025 and then further out until 2035.

  • Ben Lake PC Ceredigion Preseli

    Question

    We have heard this afternoon of the ecological impact that many of these sewage discharges have on rivers and coastal areas, as well as public health concerns that arise from them. Does the Secretary of State agree that perhaps compensation should be considered for those communities impacted, which might prove an incentive to water companies to speed up some of their work?

    Minister reply

    The issue is devolved; action we have taken is in respect of England and it is for the Welsh Government to tackle challenges they have in their own area. We are bringing record numbers of prosecutions against companies that breach permit conditions.

  • Gagan Mohindra Con South West Hertfordshire

    Question

    My beautiful South West Hertfordshire constituency has the River Chess going through it. Jon Tyler is the last watercress farmer along the River Chess. Can my right hon. Friend give me assurance that the Environment Act, as is, is the best way to ensure that his business remains successful in the years to come?

    Minister reply

    My hon. Friend makes an important point. The Department is also working on a new horticulture strategy and invites him to write with details of the particular watercress grower he refers to to ensure challenges they face are properly reflected.

  • Olivia Blake Lab Sheffield Hallam

    Question

    I did not realise that the Government’s plan for biodiversity net gain was simply to boost the level of E. coli and Campylobacter in our rivers and waterways. That is a serious point, because earlier this summer the chief medical officer, Ofwat and the Environment Agency set out that they have real concerns about the spread of antimicrobial-resistant bacteria in our waterways, not just because of sewage from storm overflows, but because of normal sewage treatment works. What is the wait? Why have we been waiting 28 years to ban that outright?

    Minister reply

    The hon. Lady is wrong. The environment targets we are consulting on will set ambitious targets to improve bathing water quality and address issues such as E. coli counts. Issues of breaches of permits from water treatment works are being investigated at 2,200 facilities.

  • Mims Davies Con East Grinstead and Uckfield

    Question

    My constituents in Mid Sussex have rightly been very concerned by social media’s inferring that the Government are not taking significant action. We all enjoy the seaside in Sussex and across the country. People are acting today as if they do not bear any blame themselves, but we are all contributing to this problem. Will the Department provide more clarity so that people understand that the situation is improving significantly?

    Minister reply

    I have been grateful for today’s opportunity to allay fears and focus on substantive issues rather than social media claims.

  • Layla Moran Lib Dem Oxford West and Abingdon

    Question

    This was the first summer that Oxford West and Abingdon could enjoy the fact that the River Thames in Port Meadow had been granted bathing water status, but it is the second of only two such sites in the entire country. Will he consider a fund to help communities and councils to gain bathing water status for our rivers?

    Minister reply

    If the hon. Lady writes to us about her proposal, we will look at it. DEFRA has a target under the Environment Act 2021 to increase the number of bathing waters that are in good and favourable condition.

  • Jerome Mayhew Con Broadland and Fakenham

    Question

    We need to establish the real scale of the problem. It has been estimated that providing a full solution to storm overflow discharges will require the replacement of 100,000 miles of combined sewers, so the Government have it absolutely right with increasingly onerous targets for Ofwat backed by unlimited fines and £56 billion of infrastructure investment year after year. Does my right hon. Friend agree that to pretend we can call for an immediate ban does a huge disservice to the general public?

    Minister reply

    My hon. Friend is absolutely right. It is important to take the right long-term decisions now on investment, monitoring and bringing prosecutions in order to ensure the issue improves over the next 25 years.

  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    Question

    I thank the Secretary of State for his answers. He has mentioned on three occasions the need for the devolved Administrations to play their part. Sewage impacts on all the seas around the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Taking into consideration the fact that 7 million tonnes of raw sewage are pumped into Northern Ireland’s seas and waters, and more than £1.5 billion of investment is needed to repair that situation, does the right hon. Member agree that there must be a holistic approach to tackling sewage pollution across the whole United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland?

    Minister reply

    As I said, responsibility for water quality is devolved, but of course we work closely with all the devolved Administrations. DEFRA will share all the policy thinking, work and analysis that we have done in respect of England with any devolved Administration who would find it useful.

  • Question

    There are two pollution warnings on our beautiful beaches of Southend West today, because of the use of storm overflows. I welcome all the work that the Government are doing and their plans to reduce the problem, but does my right hon. Friend agree that the payments of dividends and capital buy-backs must be directly linked to Anglian Water’s performance in preventing sewage discharges in my constituency?

    Minister reply

    Yes, I agree that dividend payments should be linked to compliance with permits and environmental performance, and we have taken the powers in the Environment Act to ensure that that happens.

  • Question

    The discharge of sewage into waterways, including the beautiful chalk streams of South Cambridgeshire, is clearly completely unacceptable, which is why I welcome the package of measures the Secretary of State talked about earlier finally to tackle the problem. Enforcement is a lot more effective if we hit owners and senior executives where it hurts most: in their pockets. That is why I welcome the fact that, as the Secretary of State has mentioned, including in response to the previous question, Ofwat is consulting on linking dividend payments to environmental performance. Does he also agree that the Government should consider going further and banning water companies that are fined for illegally dumping pollution from paying any bonus to their senior management team or dividends to their owners for one year? When bankers break the law, they lose their bonuses. Should not the same happen to water company executives?

    Minister reply

    As I said, Ofwat is consulting on a package of measures, using the new powers that we have given it under the Environment Act. I am sure that it will study this urgent question carefully and take on board my hon. Friend’s policy proposal.

Shadow Comment

Caroline Lucas

Shadow Minister Caroline Lucas criticised the Government's complacency and lack of urgency in addressing sewage discharges, highlighting that water companies are allowed to continue polluting until 2035 for designated areas and 2050 elsewhere. She questioned why it is permitted now for companies to discharge sewage during non-heavy rainfall periods, contrary to previous laws. Lucas also pointed out the cuts made by the Environment Agency under a former Minister and expressed concern over dividends paid to shareholders at the expense of infrastructure investment. She further raised issues about compensation for businesses affected due to pollution-related loss of revenue.

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