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Criminal Justice and Public Order Bill - After Clause 2 - Criminal injuries compensation

24 February 2021 · 12 other contributors

Opened by Michael Ellis Con New Forest East

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At a glance

Michael Ellis raised concerns about criminal justice and public order bill - after clause 2 - criminal injuries compensation in the House of Commons. Other MPs contributed to the debate.

Key points

  • Moves Lords amendment 3B to ensure individuals can access criminal injuries compensation whenever appropriate
  • Emphasises the importance of providing legal certainty and protection for covert human intelligence sources
  • Introduces additional safeguards for juveniles and vulnerable adults, ensuring compatibility with their best interests and enhanced risk assessments

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Michael Ellis Con New Forest East

Moves Lords amendment 3B to ensure individuals can access criminal injuries compensation whenever appropriate. Emphasises the importance of providing legal certainty and protection for covert human intelligence sources. Introduces additional safeguards for juveniles and vulnerable adults, ensuring compatibility with their best interests and enhanced risk assessments.

Other contributors (12)
  • Conor McGinn Lab St Helens North

    Welcomes the Government's change of heart on making it explicit in the Bill that individuals can access criminal injuries compensation whenever appropriate. Acknowledges the improvements made during the Bill’s passage and continues to monitor these matters for future enhancements.

  • Julian Lewis Con New Forest East

    Supports the Bill as it provides legal certainty for covert human intelligence sources. Welcomes judicial oversight measures, additional safeguards for children and vulnerable people, and provisions addressing collateral damage.

  • Stuart McDonald SNP Dunfermline and West Fife

    Acknowledges the necessity of a Bill but could not support it due to insufficient safeguards. Welcomes additional protections for children and vulnerable people, yet remains concerned about the extent of these powers. Questions the adequacy of human rights protections under the Human Rights Act.

  • Bob Neill Con Bromley and Chislehurst

    Welcomes the Bill for providing legal certainty, especially in light of judicial oversight. Supports provisions for redress and compensation for victims of collateral damage, as well as additional safeguards for juveniles.

  • Stella Creasy Lab Co-op Walthamstow

    Acknowledges the improvements in the Bill concerning children and covert intelligence sources, thanks various individuals for their work on this issue. Supports the exceptional circumstances principle and the role of IPCO. Expresses concern over the absence of appropriate adults in all conversations involving children as CHIS and urges the Minister to publish a long-awaited code of practice. Emphasises the importance of safeguarding protection for all children involved, not just those under 16.

  • David Davis Con Goole and Pocklington

    Compliments Stella Creasy on her campaign efforts. Expresses concern about the division between children above and below 16 regarding the requirement for an appropriate adult, suggesting that police officers should not be allowed to make such judgments even in exceptional circumstances. Acknowledges improvements made but argues they are insufficient. Raises ambiguity about the extent of crimes CHISs could authorise and seeks clarity from the Minister on the legality of acts breaching the Human Rights Act.

  • Apsana Begum Lab Poplar and Limehouse

    Ms Begum is opposed to the Bill as it seeks to decriminalise criminal conduct by intelligence agents. She argues that the amendments do not provide sufficient safeguards for ethnic minorities, protest movements, and trade unions, particularly concerning the rights of children from these groups. She cites concerns over increased surveillance in Muslim communities and fears that the Bill could exacerbate existing civil rights issues.

  • John Hayes Con South Holland and The Deepings

    Mr Hayes supports the Bill, arguing it is necessary for saving lives by enabling covert intelligence operations. He emphasises that these measures are crucial in preventing terror attacks and ensuring public safety. Mr Hayes highlights improvements made to safeguards through government engagement but maintains that certain criminal activities are necessary under controlled conditions to gather critical information.

  • Alistair Carmichael Lib Dem Orkney and Shetland

    Mr Carmichael welcomes the improvements but remains sceptical of the Bill's adequacy in providing sufficient protections. He argues that its introduction was driven by a legal risk rather than genuine concern for oversight, suggesting it will not stand the test of time. Mr Carmichael criticises the ambiguity between the Government's arguments before the Investigatory Powers Tribunal and their stance on the Bill.

  • James Sunderland Con Worcester

    Supports the Bill's primary objective of defending national security. Acknowledges Lords amendment 3 on criminal injuries compensation but urges the Government to consider related counter-amendments due to operational concerns.

  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    Thankful for the Bill and the efforts of the Government in bringing it forward. Supports amendments that aim at addressing human rights issues and safeguarding children and vulnerable adults.

  • Stresses the importance of open legislation, training for CHIS agents, and the need to avoid collusion activities. Supports the Bill's role in reducing such activities and safeguarding communities.

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