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House of Commons · General Debate

International Travel

07 September 2020 · 53 other contributors

Opened by Grant Shapps Con Dover

Summarised by AI from the official record, so it can contain mistakes.

At a glance

Grant Shapps raised concerns about international travel in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.

Key points

  • International travel corridors were introduced in June to help keep infection rates lower.
  • The Joint Biosecurity Centre was established to assess inbound travel risks from hundreds of territories.
  • A new islands policy based on robust data collection was announced, guided by four principles for regions with clear boundaries like islands.

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Grant Shapps Con Dover

The statement outlines the introduction of international travel corridors in June, which helped to keep infection rates lower. It mentions the establishment of the Joint Biosecurity Centre (JBC) for assessing inbound travel risks from hundreds of territories. The minister announced a new islands policy based on robust and reliable data, allowing regionalised systems for certain regions with clear boundaries such as islands. He also mentioned that testing at borders is not yet feasible due to the low capture rate of asymptomatic carriers but quarantine combined with testing holds promise.

Other contributors (53)
  • Grant Shapps Con Dover

    The minister highlighted that the unpredictable nature of the virus can disrupt holiday plans and emphasised the importance of data collection through the passenger locator form and NHS Test and Trace. He announced a new islands policy, outlining four guiding principles for assessing risk within these regions. The JBC methodology is designed to protect British citizens while enabling tourism to low-risk island destinations. However, the minister stressed that travelling during coronavirus carries risks and breaching quarantine can lead to criminal consequences.

  • Jim McMahon Lab Co-op Oldham West, Chadderton and Royton

    The Government’s handling of the pandemic has been chaotic. They have failed to act promptly or provide clear guidelines for travellers, leading to inconsistent quarantine rules and confusion among the public. This lack of clarity is damaging public support for measures needed to combat the virus. Labour advocates for a proper sectoral deal with conditions to protect jobs, tackle climate change, and ensure fair tax practices.

  • Grant Shapps Con Welwyn Hatfield

    The Government has combined extensive information from various sources to implement travel corridors. Testing capacity is high in the UK compared to other countries. The NHS test and trace system along with passenger locator forms help identify infection sources. Grant Shapps argues for travel with eyes open due to unpredictable virus patterns. He emphasises substantial financial support provided to the aviation sector through various schemes.

  • Huw Merriman Con Bexhill and Battle

    Welcomes the decision to treat islands differently from mainland territories in travel restrictions. Questions the Secretary of State about testing capabilities, suggesting a mid-point quarantine period as a balanced approach between safety and supporting the aviation industry.

  • Gavin Newlands SNP Paisley and Renfrewshire North

    Thanked the Secretary of State for his statement, expressed concern about the spread of coronavirus, criticised the Secretary of State's remarks regarding Scotland's quarantine decisions on Portugal and Greece. Asked for more support for the aviation industry and a timeline for the testing programme.

  • Grant Shapps Con Hastings and Rye

    Responded to criticisms, defended the government's approach to quarantine decisions, emphasised ongoing support for the aviation sector despite media mischaracterisation. Promised to return with a timeline for testing programmes.

  • Nickie Aiken Con Cities of London and Westminster

    Asked the Secretary of State to continue monitoring and consider removing more countries from the red list to welcome overseas visitors back safely.

  • Seema Malhotra Lab/Co-op Feltham and Heston

    Critiqued today’s announcement as falling short, requested updates on increased testing and quarantine time reduction. Asked for trials on flights from Heathrow to JFK.

  • Matt Vickers Con Stockton South

    Asked the Secretary of State to continue reviewing the travel corridor list under constant scrutiny to allow safe travel.

  • Maria Eagle Lab Liverpool Garston

    Described job losses at Liverpool airport, urged for sector-specific support in aviation until quarantine arrangements are established.

  • Matt Western Lab Warwick and Leamington

    Welcomed the islands policy but asked about introducing a mandatory test seven days after returning from holidays.

  • Scott Benton Con Wansbeck

    The Government have provided £160 billion to support businesses, helping many firms in the travel industry and protecting jobs temporarily. However, these businesses face a difficult winter period and need additional support.

  • Grant Shapps Con Haltemprice and Howden

    The Government have provided substantial financial support to travel companies through various schemes such as the job retention scheme (£283 million), loan schemes, bounce back loans, and the furlough programme. Additional support will continue.

  • Stuart McDonald SNP Glasgow South

    Two constituents who were in Spain when it was added to the quarantine list are experiencing hardship as their employer did not provide statutory sick pay, raising concerns about compliance with quarantine measures and fairness.

  • Simon Fell Con Bournemouth East

    Requests for information from constituents regarding potential additions to the quarantine list suggest a need for transparency. The Government have been publicising data used by the Joint Biosecurity Centre to assess risk, going beyond case numbers per 100,000 over seven days.

  • Christine Jardine Lib Dem Edinburgh West

    Concerns about job losses at Edinburgh airport and the need for measures that balance supporting the aviation industry with medical evidence to shorten quarantine periods are raised, seeking assurance from the Government.

  • Robert Halfon Con Harlow

    Requests support for Stansted airport employees, including those affected by job losses at ABM Blue Handling and easyJet. The islands policy announced will protect jobs by enabling islands to be added when mainland travel is not possible.

  • Liz Saville-Roberts PC Dwyfor Meirionnydd

    Questions the suggestion that differences in quarantine rules between UK nations cause confusion, arguing it arises from a failure to communicate when rules apply only to England.

  • Aaron Bell Con Wrexham

    Welcomes measures for islands and further granularity in quarantine rules, hoping the list of countries will be kept under review to enable travel as soon as it is safe.

  • Alex Norris Lab/Co-op Nottingham North and Kimberley

    Raises concerns about lack of testing at airports and tracing for incoming passengers, questioning enforcement measures to ensure compliance with quarantine rules and prevent virus spread from overseas.

  • Andrew Griffith Con Arundel and South Downs

    Asks the Secretary of State to continue exploring opportunities, including testing, that could allow the aviation industry to return safely, supporting economic growth while avoiding a second spike from cases abroad.

  • John Spellar Lab Halesowen and Rowley Regis

    Acknowledged the importance of Britain's aviation sector but criticised the Secretary of State for not acknowledging job losses in the industry, urging him to focus on intelligent risk management rather than complete avoidance.

  • Grant Shapps Con Welwyn Hatfield

    Emphasised his love for aviation and acknowledged the need to balance getting people back to work with safety concerns. He mentioned that day-zero testing is not always reliable, preferring a later test period as advised by scientists.

  • Felicity Buchan Con Southampton Itchen

    Asked about the viability of Iceland's airport testing system in the UK context.

  • Rachael Maskell Lab Co-op York Central

    Highlighted challenges faced by universities and international students due to lack of clear testing and tracing infrastructure, criticising the Secretary of State for poor planning.

  • Jason McCartney Con Colne Valley

    Asked the Secretary of State to introduce a testing regime that would support both aviation industry workers and holidaymakers, to which Grant Shapps agreed.

  • Tracy Brabin Lab Batley and Spen

    Expressed concern over constituents worried about neighbours breaking quarantine rules in their area and asked for reassurance on protective measures against such illegal activities.

  • Andrew Selous Con South West Bedfordshire

    Proposed moving the weekly time for returning from holidays to midnight on a Sunday to help people avoid buying expensive flights at the last minute, which Shapps considered but noted it needs balance with medical advice.

  • Cat Smith Lab Lancaster and Wyre

    Asked for publication of evidence and criteria by which countries are placed on or off quarantine lists, to which Grant Shapps responded that the basis for decision-making has already been published on his Twitter feed.

  • Kim Johnson Lab Liverpool Riverside

    Inquired about the financial support package promised to the aviation sector by the Chancellor in March and urged its immediate implementation to protect workers' rights.

  • Damian Green Con Ashford

    Asked for an assurance regarding Eurostar services resuming as soon as possible, expressing concern about their suspension until 2022, which Shapps agreed would be reviewed and worked on closely with HS1.

  • Martyn Day SNP Linlithgow and East Falkirk

    Queried the Prime Minister's stance against airport testing claiming it gives a false sense of security, requesting to know if this would be revisited when updates on quarantine are provided.

  • Bob Blackman Con Harrow East

    Suggested considering pre-quarantine measures before people board flights and encouraged enabling testing at airports prior to travel as a way to prevent the spread of the virus during air travel.

  • Ruth Cadbury Lab Brentford and Isleworth

    Heathrow airport has a large testing facility that is sitting idle, the UK economy is losing an estimated £60 million a day in tourism revenue, and constituencies near airports are in economic crisis due to covid. Germany can provide targeted support for its aviation sector, such as furlough extension and quick-turnaround tests. Why cannot the UK?

  • Grant Shapps 15:45:00

    Germany is one of the countries carrying out some tests at the border but on-the-day test is not a solution in terms of detecting disease. We are following the science and allowing scientists to look at various tests and provide advice about what would be a safe time.

  • Robert Syms 15:45:00

    The 14-day quarantine is a blunt instrument, and I think if we moved to a seven-day double-test system, it would make people safer but could also encourage more travel. Welcoming the Secretary of State's statement.

  • Grant Shapps 15:45:00

    The first test is not required and will lead people to think they do not need to quarantine if negative, but an important test helps to shorten quarantine. Disagreeing with the seven-day double-test system proposed by Robert Syms.

  • Marion Fellows 15:45:00

    How concerned is the Secretary of State about other countries placing quarantine restrictions on the UK because of rising coronavirus infection?

  • Grant Shapps 15:45:00

    Concerns are shared by everybody, and it remains a live issue. Following rules to prevent spreading the virus.

  • Mark Logan 15:45:00

    Bolton has seen the highest infection rate in the country; calling on everyone to do the right thing by staying home for the full quarantine period if mandated after returning from abroad.

  • Grant Shapps 15:45:00

    Absolutely joining the call to stay home during mandated quarantine periods to prevent spreading disease and risk of getting a criminal record.

  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    Asking what discussions are had with Northern Ireland Executive to align international travel advice while respecting devolved authority. Does the Secretary believe there is a case for mandatory alignment?

  • Grant Shapps 15:45:00

    In close contact with opposite numbers in Northern Ireland, including as recently as today, to try to co-ordinate across the Union.

  • Mike Wood Con Kingswinford and South Staffordshire

    As international travel slowly gets back on its feet over coming weeks and months, will Secretary of State look at what further support he can give to help jobs dependent on the travel industry?

  • Grant Shapps 15:45:00

    Considering the 80:20 rule that from 1 January will be a matter entirely for the UK. Considering it carefully to help the entire sector.

  • Rupa Huq Lab Ealing Central and Acton

    Passengers landing at Heathrow go straight on Piccadilly line through Ealing and Acton, which is now a petri dish with an above-average virus rate. Asking Secretary to stop playing politics and give Transport for London the bail-out it deserves.

  • Grant Shapps 15:45:00

    Congratulating on shoehorning TfL into all this, noting that £1.6 billion has already been bailed out to TfL.

  • James Davies 15:45:00

    Welcoming further announcements today from my right hon. Friend’s about travel corridors and differing rules across different parts of the UK are confusing for passengers and tourist industries.

  • Grant Shapps 15:45:00

    Working as four nations closely together, will continue to look for opportunities and ways to do that through information sharing to confuse people less.

  • Kevin Brennan 15:45:00

    Welcoming the fact that Transport Secretary is following what was done in Wales in relation to having an islands policy. Can we look at the issue of announcements at 4 am on a Thursday?

  • Grant Shapps 15:45:00

    Understanding the point about changeover date, will certainly be reflecting on this further.

  • Gareth Johnson 15:45:00

    HS1 is in a perilous position with both Ebbsfleet and Ashford stations closed until at least 2021. Would the Secretary of State or one of his team care to meet HS1, Eurostar and me to try to resolve this serious situation?

  • Grant Shapps 15:45:00

    Very happy with Rail Minister to have a meeting on concerns about closed stations until 2021.

Government Response

During July and August, we did not have means to accurately assess risks within countries. However, as JBC resources strengthened, they were able to collaborate closely with other Governments and their health authorities. The minister announced a new islands policy based on robust data collection and four guiding principles for assessing risk in regions with clear boundaries such as islands. He stated that quarantine combined with testing is more promising but it could not be a pure test-on-arrival option. The Government has combined extensive information from various sources to implement travel corridors. Testing capacity is high in the UK compared to other countries, with daily tests exceeding a third of a million. The Secretary of State emphasises the need for proportionate testing measures beyond day zero and acknowledges ongoing work with industry to develop practical solutions. Defended government decisions, highlighted ongoing support for aviation sector despite challenges. Promised to work on testing solutions and return with more updates. The Government have provided substantial financial support through various schemes. Quarantine enforcement will be stepped up with phone calls and text messages to ensure compliance. Responded to multiple queries regarding aviation, travel regulations, and quarantine measures while emphasising the need for risk management balanced with public safety. He also mentioned plans to look into pre-quarantine measures suggested by constituents.

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