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House of Commons · General Debate

Prevention and Suppression of Terrorism

15 July 2020 · 9 other contributors

Opened by Kevin Foster Con Torquay

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At a glance

Kevin Foster raised concerns about prevention and suppression of terrorism in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.

Key points

  • Moves to approve the draft order to include Feuerkrieg Division as a proscribed organisation under the Terrorism Act 2000.
  • Highlights the growing threat from right-wing terrorism and the importance of proscription in disrupting terrorist activities.
  • FKD is described as a white supremacist group involved in terrorism, with activities including online propaganda and arrests on terrorism charges.

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Kevin Foster Con Torquay

Moves to approve the draft order that amends Schedule 2 of the Terrorism Act 2000 to include Feuerkrieg Division as a proscribed organisation. Highlights the growing threat from right-wing terrorism and the importance of proscription in disrupting terrorist activities, preventing membership growth, stopping propaganda spread, and protecting vulnerable individuals.

Other contributors (9)
  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    Commemorates the Minister's legislation while questioning if there are sufficient resources for police forces to monitor those involved in such activities.

  • Conor McGinn Lab St Helens North

    The Opposition's priority is to keep the public and country safe, supporting this proscription order for clarity and direction against FKD. Acknowledges FKD as a white supremacist group with international reach, targeting vulnerable individuals online and physically through propaganda. Supports the need for robust and agile processes in tackling such extremism, urging government action on far-right terrorism strategy and dealing with other violent groups like the Order of Nine Angles.

  • Joanna Cherry SNP Edinburgh South

    The Scottish National party supports proscription orders against FKD due to its risks as a white supremacist group. Acknowledges the warning from Jonathan Hall QC about new forms of terrorism including far-right extremism and the need for vigilance. Supports the statutory test being met, endorsing the Home Secretary's decision.

  • Stephen Doughty Lab Co-op Cardiff South and Penarth

    I wholeheartedly welcome this order and endorse the comments by my hon. Friends and from the SNP Benches. Across the House, one thing we all have in common is the view that these groups are utterly despicable and need the strongest action to be taken against them. The tactics, ideology, and methods that the Minister rightly outlined in relation to FKD are deeply disturbing, and are unfortunately shared by a range of other organisations. While this order is welcome, the description that the Minister gave of antisemitism, racism and encouragement of attacks on minority groups, our police and public figures, as well as the use of the online world to groom and radicalise individuals into these organisations, are an all-too-familiar tale.

  • Stephen Doughty Lab Co-op Cardiff South and Penarth

    I urge the Minister to look carefully at groups that are using similar tactics or ideologies, or that pose a similar clear and present danger to the citizens of this country, and indeed globally. I commend the remarks about the Order of Nine Angles. That group was rightly raised by HOPE not Hate, which does incredible work on this issue.

  • Stephen Doughty Lab Co-op Cardiff South and Penarth

    I share the concerns of my hon. Friend the Member for St Helens North about the length of time that it is taking the Government to proscribe these organisations, even in the face of very clear, undisputed evidence about their activities. The system is simply moving too slowly.

  • Stephanie Peacock Lab Barnsley South

    I would like to begin by welcoming the ban of the FKD. Far-right terrorism is the fastest growing terror threat in this country, and that is why Government action is very welcome. There is, however, an enforcement gap. For proscription measures to have the maximum possible impact, they cannot become an end in themselves.

  • Stephanie Peacock Lab Barnsley South

    While this proposed ban is welcome, I firmly believe that another neo-Nazi organisation already mentioned more than once in the debate—the Order of Nine Angles —represents a greater threat to UK citizens. As parliamentary chair of HOPE not Hate, an anti-fascist campaign group, I co-ordinated a letter from a group of cross-party MPs to the Home Secretary.

  • Welcomed overall support for the measure from the Opposition, acknowledged the constructive tone struck by Labour and SNP representatives. Emphasised that criminalising joining an organisation should only occur with significant evidence of extremism, violence, and inciting hatred. Assured the shadow Security Minister about the process dealing with aliases via a negative instrument rather than full proscription. Mentioned the growing threat highlighted online and the importance of recognising changes in methods used by terrorist groups moving to smaller social media platforms. Acknowledged the support for tackling these issues but cautioned against taking dissolution proclamations at face value without intelligence confirmation.

Government Response

Reiterates that FKD is a white supremacist group concerned with terrorism. Provides summary of the group’s activities including online propaganda and arrests on terrorism charges, both domestically and internationally. Emphasises the Government's strategy to combat terrorism by disrupting violent ideologies and preventing glorification of horrific terrorist acts.

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