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House of Commons · General Debate

Covid-19: R Rate and Lockdown Measures

08 June 2020 · 53 other contributors

Opened by Matthew Hancock Con Filton and Bradley Stoke

NHS

Summarised by AI from the official record, so it can contain mistakes.

At a glance

Matthew Hancock raised concerns about covid-19: r rate and lockdown measures in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.

Key points

  • The Secretary of State for Health and Social Care reported a significant drop in new infections and fatalities due to coronavirus.
  • The number of people with coronavirus fell from 139,000 between March 3-16 to 53,000 by May 17-30.
  • The minister emphasised the importance of evidence-based policy and alignment while respecting regional differences in the UK.

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Matthew Hancock Con Filton and Bradley Stoke

The Secretary of State for Health and Social Care thanked Mr Speaker for the opportunity to update the House on progress in controlling coronavirus. He reported a significant drop in new infections, fatalities, and the R rate, noting that the number of people with coronavirus had fallen from 139,000 between March 3-16 to 53,000 by May 17-30. He emphasised the importance of caution and safety as they proceed with plans to ease lockdown measures.

Other contributors (53)
  • Jon Ashworth Lab Delyn

    The shadow Secretary of State for Health and Social Care noted that easing restrictions may be premature given concerns about PPE supplies, testing capacity, tracing systems, regional R values, and the potential resurgence of infections. He requested weekly publication of regional R value estimates, inclusion of metro Mayors in Cobra meetings, specific data distribution to local authorities, guidance on enforcing local lockdowns, and financial support for those isolated.

  • Jeremy Hunt Con Godalming

    The Member for Godalming questioned the efficiency of postal testing and suggested replacing it with same-day delivery and collection to improve turnaround times for test results. He pointed out that this is feasible given the capabilities of companies like Amazon.

  • Philippa Whitford SNP Central Ayrshire

    The SNP spokesperson raised concerns about the proximity of R values to one in some areas, questioning the timing and adequacy of easing lockdown measures. She criticised Serco's tracing system progress and called for better integration with public health systems.

  • The MP questioned the decision by local councillors not to open primary schools and urged the Secretary of State to consider local factors beyond regional R data when making important decisions on reopening schools.

  • Maria Eagle Lab Liverpool Garston

    Eagle expressed concern over the Government's plans to lift lockdown measures despite high R rates in some areas and a threat level still at 4, raising questions about the safety of proceeding with further easing.

  • Harriett Baldwin Con West Worcestershire

    Baldwin questioned the impact of recent protests on social distancing measures, highlighting public concerns over compliance and potential risks to virus spread.

  • Keeley called for more localised information on R rates and additional support for areas facing a resurgence of infections under local lockdown measures, as suggested by the Greater Manchester Mayor.

  • Redwood inquired about the reliability of R figures in light of increased testing and whether surveys could provide more accurate prevalence data on the virus's downward trend.

  • Oswald criticised the undermining effect of recent controversies, such as Dominic Cummings' travel, on public health messaging and asked how this could be repaired to maintain public confidence in lockdown measures.

  • Crabb questioned the sustainability of localised lockdowns and sought advice from behavioural experts on maintaining public support for easing restrictions while being prepared to reverse course if necessary.

  • Mary Foy Lab City of Durham

    Foy requested more granular, local-level data on infections to assist in stopping transmission as lockdown measures are lifted and asked for a specific date by which this information would be available to local authorities.

  • Brereton sought assurance that easing restrictions was based on scientific advice, noting the need for public confidence as many constituents return to work and school after lockdown measures are relaxed.

  • Ruth Cadbury Lab Brentford and Isleworth

    Cadbury raised concerns over access to testing kits for people in residential care homes, especially those under 65 with learning disabilities or other support needs, urging the Secretary of State to ensure that all residents could get tested.

  • Clark called on the Secretary of State to extend testing access to people in retirement villages and supported accommodation settings outside formal social care, emphasising their vulnerability to infection.

  • Brennan highlighted concerns over the rapid return of infections if lockdown measures are relaxed too quickly and asked what steps would be taken should R rates rise again.

  • Emphasised the importance of keeping the R number below 1 and highlighted discussions with scientists about cautious measures. Discussed international vaccine efforts, particularly supporting low-income countries through aid. Acknowledged concerns over testing in care homes and committed to regular testing in all settings, including under-65s and those with learning disabilities. Reassured constituents of Ilkley regarding local lockdown considerations and confirmed £300 million allocated for local authorities to handle local outbreaks. Stressed the importance of evidence-based decisions on R number reports and regional lockdown measures. Confirmed steps towards easing lockdown are being taken cautiously based on evidence. Emphasised engagement with local directors of public health in addressing local outbreaks and provided funding support through a £300 million allocation.

  • Mark Pritchard Con The Wrekin

    Asked about the UK's international vaccine efforts, particularly towards low-income and developing countries within the Commonwealth and overseas territories.

  • Munira Wilson Lib Dem Twickenham

    Questioned the Secretary of State on testing in care homes and called for regular testing across all settings, including under-65s and those with learning disabilities.

  • Robbie Moore Con Keighley and Ilkley

    Asked about local lockdown considerations in Ilkley due to concerns over mass gatherings and a lack of social distancing. Highlighted the need for specific actions if there is evidence of flare-ups.

  • Liz Twist Lab Blaydon and Consett

    Inquired about local resources and funding being put in place for local authorities to deal with necessary local lockdowns.

  • Asked the Secretary of State to reassure residents in Burnley regarding reports suggesting an R number above 1 and sought clarification on consultations with devolved nations about local lockdown measures.

  • Neil Grey Lab

    Questioned whether the R number has been rising since easing of lockdowns, asked for details on what local lockdowns will look like to ensure virus containment and inquired about consultations with devolved nations.

  • Welcomed progress made in testing but raised concerns over disproportionate impact of the pandemic on black, Asian and minority ethnic communities and asked for further targeted testing efforts.

  • Suggested adopting Welsh guidance limiting travel to five miles from home to prevent unnecessary spread of virus across different infection levels.

  • Asked for assurance that steps to ease lockdown would be taken cautiously, examining R rate effects in different parts of the country before proceeding.

  • Clive Efford Lab Eltham and Chislehurst

    Inquired about local authorities' lack of clarity on their roles and powers in addressing potential outbreaks. Highlighted concerns over timely guidance from central government.

  • Asked for clarification on the most granular level at which regional lockdowns could be effectively implemented, highlighting the importance of test and trace programme data in local decision-making.

  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    Asked the Secretary of State about regional variation in R numbers and requested discussions with regional authorities to ensure UK-wide understanding.

  • Stated that all R numbers are calculated using the same scientific criteria, has regular discussions with First Minister in Northern Ireland and his counterpart Robin Swann. Emphasised the importance of alignment across the United Kingdom while respecting local differences.

  • Inquired about assessment of social distancing measures at 1.5 metres or 1 metre, and requested a review of these measures in the UK.

  • Wendy Chamberlain Lib Dem North East Fife

    Welcomed reduction in deaths in Scotland but expressed concern over testing capacity, asked how the Secretary of State is working with Scottish Government to improve testing and confidence in R numbers.

  • Andrew Bowie Con West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine

    Praised whole-UK approach for evidence of progress seen in reduced deaths, thanked the Secretary of State for measures adopted from the start of the virus outbreak.

  • Rachael Maskell Lab Co-op York Central

    Asked for comprehensive and granulated data for local directors of public health to effectively trace cases, requested detailed information on R values.

  • Welcomed steps being taken to reduce restrictions for the most vulnerable in society, asked if measures are based on scientific advice and if further support is available.

  • Asked about mixed messages from Government that might raise R rate above 1, requested confirmation of readiness to reintroduce restrictions if necessary and financial support for those affected.

  • Greg Smith Con Mid Buckinghamshire

    Expressed hope for grandparents to soon be able to play a full role in their grandchildren’s lives, asked about lifting lockdown measures cautiously.

  • Andrew Gwynne Ind Gorton and Denton

    Raised concern over financial impact of local lockdowns on people unable to work from home, suggested a form of local furlough scheme.

  • Asked for specific levels of R rate that would initiate Government response and criteria for removing restrictions based on new infection rates.

  • Inquired about reasons behind UK’s high excess death rate compared to other countries, requested further discussion if needed.

  • Discussed difficulties with unofficial R rate figures and their impact on public perception, asked for confirmation of accuracy at regional level and stressed the importance of accurate reporting by media.

  • Dave Doogan SNP Angus and Perthshire Glens

    Asked about discussions with Treasury colleagues regarding varying furlough levels across UK nations as lockdown rates differ.

  • Matthew Hancock 15:36:00

    Emphasised that economic policy is for the whole country and stressed the importance of following social distancing guidelines in various industries, including tourism. Reassured constituents about safety measures regarding shielding and reopening schools while maintaining a cautious approach to easing lockdown restrictions.

  • Caroline Ansell Con Eastbourne

    Asked for reassurances regarding the safe reopening of non-essential retail businesses, given her constituency's high number of care homes and shielding residents.

  • Daisy Cooper Lib Dem St Albans

    Raised concerns about the impact of current guidelines on people who are clinically extremely vulnerable and asked for more flexibility in shielding guidance.

  • Theresa Villiers 15:36:00

    Urged the Government to follow other European countries by moving to a 1 metre social distancing rule to save jobs in hospitality, but was advised against this due to higher risk of transmission.

  • Afzal Khan Lab Manchester Rusholme

    Asked about the impact of reopening schools on the R rate in the north-west and received reassurances from the Secretary of State that SAGE's assessment is that R is below 1 in all regions.

  • Gagan Mohindra Con South West Hertfordshire

    Asked about the consideration given by SAGE when providing advice to Ministers, particularly regarding regional R rates and local lockdown measures.

  • Chris Bryant Lab Rhondda and Ogmore

    Highlighted the difficult working conditions faced by care home staff during the pandemic and inquired about tax implications for a bonus given by the Welsh Government to workers.

  • William Wragg 15:36:00

    Emphasised the importance of understanding the spread of COVID-19 in different settings like hospitals and care homes, questioning the potential distortion of R rates at a regional level.

  • Stephen Flynn SNP Aberdeen South

    Asked for a commitment to ensure financial support for businesses, employees, and self-employed individuals if lockdown measures need to be reimplemented due to an increase in the R rate.

  • Robert Courts 15:36:00

    Called for increased information access for unpaid carers who may not identify themselves as such, highlighting their importance in controlling the R rate.

  • Neale Hanvey 15:36:00

    Questioned the Government's messaging and scientific advice after a SAGE member's statements about earlier lockdowns potentially saving lives were disputed by the Secretary of State.

  • Joy Morrissey Con Beaconsfield

    Praised carers in Beaconsfield for their work during the pandemic and acknowledged that localised approaches to managing outbreaks would not be possible without significant testing capabilities.

Government Response

Responded to questions regarding R numbers, social distancing measures, testing capacity, financial support, and collaboration between health directorates in all four UK nations. Emphasised the importance of evidence-based policy and alignment while respecting regional differences.

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