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House of Commons · General Debate

Historical Stillbirth Burials and Cremations

06 February 2020 · 20 other contributors

Opened by Nadine Dorries Con South East Cambridgeshire

NHS

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At a glance

Nadine Dorries raised concerns about historical stillbirth burials and cremations in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.

Key points

  • Hon. Member for South East Cambridgeshire highlighted progress in maternity care since the 1980s
  • Families of stillborn children were often not informed about funeral arrangements until recently
  • Government promised to investigate potential inquiries within the Department of Health and Social Care

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Nadine Dorries Con South East Cambridgeshire

The hon. Member for South East Cambridgeshire, Nadine Dorries, congratulated the hon. Member for Swansea East on securing the debate and highlighted the progress made in maternity care since the 1980s. She acknowledged that until recently, families of stillborn children were often not informed about funeral arrangements or the disposal of their babies' bodies, but now there are regulations to ensure parents' wishes are respected. Dorries also mentioned the launch of a children’s funeral fund and emphasised the need for hospitals to provide information on what happened to the remains of stillborn babies.

Other contributors (20)
  • Diana R. Johnson Lab Kingston upon Hull North

    The hon. Member for Kingston upon Hull North questioned whether families seeking information about their babies' final resting places are being treated better now compared to the past.

  • Tim Loughton Con East Worthing and Shoreham

    The hon. Member for East Worthing and Shoreham echoed the Minister's tribute to the hon. Member for Swansea East and raised concerns about cases where children were not stillborn but lived briefly before dying, suggesting that coroners should have the power to investigate such cases.

  • Justin Madders Lab Ellesmere Port and Bromborough

    I express our sincere condolences to bereaved parents who have been denied the opportunity to grieve when their child was buried or cremated in an undisclosed place. Bereavement care can make a real difference, but historical practices were often inadequate; babies' bodies were sometimes placed in communal plots without consulting parents, and ashes not always returned. We need consistent support for bereaved families, better mental health services, and independent inquiries to trace graves. The culture must move away from blame towards learning.

  • Mark Tami Lab Alyn and Deeside

    He notes that while psychological support is acknowledged as necessary, it is often difficult for bereaved parents to access this help consistently across different regions. The issue requires better funding and delivery of specialist services.

  • Diana R. Johnson Lab Kingston upon Hull North and Cottingham

    She asks the shadow Minister to support local authorities in conducting independent inquiries that can provide some closure for families seeking information about their baby’s ashes or burial details, highlighting a specific example from Shrewsbury.

  • Justin Madders Lab Ellesmere Port and Bromborough

    He acknowledges the importance of local authority inquiries and supports efforts to provide closure for families. He also raises concerns about inconsistent access to talking therapies, often reliant on charitable grants, urging a review of current provision with parental and professional involvement.

  • We need to address perinatal mental illness in new fathers as well as mothers, acknowledging its significant impact on family dynamics.

  • John Hayes Con South Holland and The Deepings

    Councils spend £4 million annually on public health funerals for nearly 15,000 burials or cremations. Some councils provide minimal service, such as behind-closed-doors funerals, refusing ashes to families, and not informing them of funeral dates. I urge the Government to ensure that these practices are humane and civilised.

  • Until the mid-late 1980s, stillbirth was largely unrecognised as a major bereavement; parents were discouraged from grieving. Fathers' roles were often ignored. Recent years have seen improvements but no complacency is acceptable. There are significant differences in cremation practices across the UK and issues around ashes being disposed without parent's knowledge.

  • Diana R. Johnson Lab Kingston upon Hull North and Cottingham

    I would like to know if the Mortonhall investigation inquiry helped parents answer their questions about cremation practices and whether similar inquiries should be supported in other parts of the UK.

  • Patricia Gibson SNP North Ayrshire and Arran

    There is no room for complacency regarding the historical infant cremation practices in Scotland. The Infant Cremation Commission report led to measures ensuring that parents are informed of their rights and that laws protect them against similar occurrences. New codes of practice were established, criminal sanctions introduced, and legislation was brought forward to overhaul burial and cremation policies. Parents were often not told where or how their babies were buried, leading to years of uncertainty and grief. Today, parents are encouraged to hold and grieve for their stillborn babies in a more compassionate way, which is a significant improvement from past practices. The speaker urges relevant authorities to continue supporting affected families.

  • Tim Loughton Con East Worthing and Shoreham

    Discusses the importance of addressing stillbirth, emphasises progress in legislation and hospital treatment sensitivity, highlights the need for further action on pre-24-week stillbirths. Proposes a review into how to better handle pre-24-week cases. Advocates for coroners' ability to investigate stillbirths to ensure transparency and address historical injustices.

  • John Hayes Con South Holland and The Deepings

    Calls on the Minister to consider new guidance for local authorities regarding past and present practices related to stillbirth, suggesting that health authorities should be contacted directly to ensure cooperation.

  • Carolyn Harris Lab Neath and Swansea East

    Described her personal experience with losing a child and the impact it had on her family, especially her mother. Highlighted the emotional trauma faced by parents who lost children to stillbirths or miscarriages, advocating for better support mechanisms including counselling services and access to information about burial locations.

  • Diana R. Johnson Lab Kingston upon Hull North and Cottingham

    Questioned Carolyn Harris regarding the proactive role of institutions in providing records and information related to babies' burial sites without waiting for requests from bereaved families, suggesting that local authorities should be more forthcoming with such details.

  • Diana R. Johnson Lab Kingston upon Hull North and Cottingham

    Paying tribute to the work of Sands and Lullaby Trust, Diana highlights higher levels of stillbirth and neonatal deaths in Hull compared to national averages. She raises the case of her constituents Mike and Tina Trowhill whose baby, William, was stillborn and later found out that his ashes were scattered rather than returned to them. Johnson emphasises the need for a local independent inquiry into infant cremations in Hull to address concerns raised by grieving parents.

  • Justin Madders Lab Ellesmere Port and Bromborough

    Summarised the debate, highlighting points made by other speakers on support for fathers, need for bereavement leave, and the importance of personal experiences in driving change. Emphasised the need for more comprehensive support systems to help families affected by baby loss.

  • Nadine Dorries Con South East Cambridgeshire

    Responded to points raised, including the issue of local authorities' responsibility and potential cooperation with the Ministry of Justice. Acknowledged the need for an inquiry into specific cases like that of Mike and Tina Trowhill but noted sensitivity around such inquiries due to privacy concerns.

  • Diana R. Johnson Lab Kingston upon Hull North and Cottingham

    Asked about the possibility of a local independent inquiry, particularly regarding jurisdictional issues between the NHS and local authorities.

  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    The Member called for decisions and conclusions from this debate to be conveyed to Northern Ireland where this is a devolved matter, so that all regions can collaborate in improving services for families experiencing stillbirth.

Government Response

Addressed queries from MPs, promised to investigate potential inquiries within the Department of Health and Social Care, and provided updates on pregnancy loss review progress.

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