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Ethnicity Pay Gap
20 September 2021
Lead MP
Elliot Colburn
Responding Minister
Paul Scully
Tags
EmploymentWomen & Equalities
Word Count: 9455
Other Contributors: 6
At a Glance
Elliot Colburn raised concerns about ethnicity pay gap in Westminster Hall. A government minister responded.
Key Requests to Government:
I call upon the Government to introduce mandatory ethnicity pay gap reporting to enable organisations to understand their workforce better and identify barriers to equality. I also request that they publish their analysis of the 2018 consultation later this year.
How the Debate Unfolded
MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said:
Lead Contributor
Opened the debate
I am concerned about the lack of data available to gauge the ethnicity pay gap in workplaces. There is a need for employers to be held accountable when there are disparities, and introducing mandatory reporting could shine a light on race/ethnicity-based inequality in the workplace. The petition has garnered 130,567 signatures, highlighting public demand for such measures.
Erith and Thamesmead
Called for mandatory ethnicity pay gap reporting, citing the need to address structural inequalities in employment. Mentioned that only 13 of the largest 100 employers have published their ethnicity pay gaps voluntarily and argued that consistent methods are necessary to benchmark against each other. The information that the Minister has provided is very helpful, particularly on the work that Business in the Community has done and also his quoting the report from the Commission on Race and Ethnic Disparities. I would be grateful if he clarified exactly what the Government have done since they conducted the survey and consultation in October 2018. I am still not clear what the Government have done since October 2018. I would be grateful if the Minister would clarify and set out what the Government have done since then to address this issue.
Clapham and Brixton Hill
My hon. Friend highlighted the lack of mandatory ethnicity pay gap reporting, noting that without it we cannot truly know the full scale of the problem. She pointed out discrepancies among different ethnic groups, with gaps reported at 2.3% overall but as high as 16% for Pakistani groups and 8% for black groups. The Minister said the issue is not about racism. He also conceded that the data that has been received is not very clear, because a number of different groups are not actually reporting. How can he be so sure that the issue is not racism when the small amount of data he does have shows there is a difference between the pay of ethnic people and their white counterparts?
Caroline Nokes
Con
Romsey and Southampton North
She discussed the need for mandatory ethnicity pay gap reporting, citing a meeting with black female entrepreneurs who advocated for it. She highlighted that while some companies voluntarily report, others require a framework to ensure consistency and comparability. She also noted the importance of intersectionality in addressing challenges faced by BAME individuals, particularly during the pandemic. It is interesting to note that Zurich commented that 87% of its workforce had identified which ethnicity they were from, so why is BEIS doing so much worse than a private sector company?
Kirsten Oswald
SNP
East Ayrshire and Arran
She agreed with Steven Bonnar's points, emphasising that there is a strong business imperative for ethnicity pay gap reporting in addition to the equality imperative. Supports the introduction of ethnicity pay gap reporting as essential for tackling pay discrimination. References the Chartered Management Institute's survey indicating that 80% of managers support mandatory ethnicity pay gap reporting. Cites research showing women's earnings remain below those of male counterparts despite gender pay equality efforts. Criticizes the Cabinet Office's Commission on Race and Ethnic Disparities report for hiding behind data complexity to recommend voluntary reporting only, contrasting this with Lady McGregor-Smith's emphasis on transparency. I am interested in what the Minister is saying. Can he clarify something: are the Government working through that methodology? What specifically are they doing, and when do they expect to have a system in place that does take account of the complexity that we all acknowledge but which absolutely must not get in the way of our making progress?
Steven Bonnar
SNP
Glasgow East
He expressed sadness over the persistence of structural racism in society, noting that ethnic minorities are less likely to find career-type work compared to their white counterparts. He highlighted a statistic from the Office for National Statistics showing minority ethnic employees in London earn 24% less than their white colleagues. Bonnar called for mandatory reporting requirements akin to gender pay disclosure and urged the Government to implement such measures swiftly.
Wera Hobhouse
Lib Dem
Bath
Ms Hobhouse congratulated the petitioners and highlighted the importance of addressing the ethnicity pay gap. She noted that women, including ethnic minority women, face significant financial inequalities. While gender pay gap reporting has shown effectiveness, the ethnicity pay gap remains unaddressed. She called for mandatory ethnicity pay gap reporting to drive transparency and progress.
Government Response
Paul Scully
Government Response
The Government are committed to building back better from the pandemic, ensuring fair representation for people from minority ethnic backgrounds in the workplace. Employment rates for ethnic minorities continue to be lower than those for white people, despite improvements, and once employed, they progress less and earn less money. The Minister noted challenges in designing an accurate ethnicity pay reporting methodology due to statistical anomalies such as skewed data. He highlighted that 22% of civil service employees did not identify their ethnicity, skewing the figures on average annual pay for different ethnic groups. The Government are considering detailed responses from consultations and commission reports on ethnicity pay reporting.
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