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Independence Referendum for Scotland
30 November 2022
Lead MP
Neale Hanvey
Responding Minister
John Lamont
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NHSUkraineClimateScotlandEnergy
Word Count: 4159
Other Contributors: 4
At a Glance
Neale Hanvey raised concerns about independence referendum for scotland in Westminster Hall. A government minister responded.
Key Requests to Government:
The lead MP asks the Minister to consider the consented, legal, and democratic route by which Scotland can exercise its sovereign right to determine its own constitutional future. He wants recognition that Scotland has a right to self-determination under Scots law.
How the Debate Unfolded
MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said:
Lead Contributor
Opened the debate
The lead MP is concerned about the UK Supreme Court's judgment that suggested Scotland does not possess a right to self-determination, overturning what has been accepted as the legal and historic position. He points out contradictions in history where England coerced Scotland into union against public will, and recent socio-economic policies imposed by Westminster that have harmed Scottish communities. The MP also cites international law principles of self-determination, including statements from Winston Churchill and Margaret Thatcher supporting this right for nations.
Angus MacNeil
SNP
Na h-Eileanan an Iar
The hon. Gentleman is making a fantastic speech and highlighted paragraph 88 of the Supreme Court judgment, which discusses self-determination rights for people denied internal self-determination. The Holyrood Standing Orders and no-confidence votes could open up a way for Scotland to determine its future if Holyrood decides to do so.
David Duguid
Con
East Kilbride, Strathaven and Lesmahagow
Asked for clarification on comparing Scotland's situation within the UK with Kosovo in war-torn former Yugoslavia. The independence referendum in 2014 was agreed on through powers devolved temporarily to the Scottish Parliament. Following last week's Supreme Court ruling, he asked if the democratic and legal position that led to consensus at the time of the independence referendum has changed in any way.
Kenny MacAskill
SNP
Glasgow Katrine
Asked why more than half of Scotland's people are going to be fuel-poor this winter and many will be in extreme fuel poverty, despite being energy-rich.
Peter Bone
Con
Northampton North
There will not be an opportunity for the Member in charge to wind up, as per convention for the 30-minute debate.
Government Response
John Lamont
Government Response
It is a privilege to respond to this debate. I congratulated the hon. Member for Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath on securing this debate and expressed that valuable debating time could have been better focused on matters of immediate importance. The Minister stated that now is not the time to talk about another referendum, as per the unanimous ruling of the United Kingdom Supreme Court. He emphasized that Scotland has a strong democracy but the power to hold a referendum rests with Westminster. The Scottish Parliament can legislate in all areas given by the Scotland Acts 1998, 2012, and 2016, making it one of the most powerful devolved Parliaments globally. He highlighted that people want their Governments focused on issues like economic stability, inflation, energy bills, NHS support, climate change, Ukraine, and levelling up rather than constitutional division. The Minister pointed out the benefits of the Union, such as higher public spending for Scotland worth around £2,000 per year for every Scot and a record block grant settlement of £41 billion over three years. He also mentioned multibillion-pound investments in Scotland's defence and shipbuilding industries, the city and growth deals programme investing in infrastructure, and local councils delivering real devolution by levelling up communities. The Minister concluded that another divisive referendum is the wrong priority at this time due to real challenges facing people across the country.
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