Commons Sense

House of Commons · Westminster Hall

Apprenticeships

04 February 2025 · 24 other contributors · 13,698 words

Opened by Andrew Pakes Labour (Co-op) Peterborough

Responding minister: Janet Daby

Summarised by AI from the official record, so it can contain mistakes.

At a glance

Andrew Pakes raised concerns about apprenticeships in Westminster Hall. A government minister responded.

Key points

  • Andrew Pakes raised concerns about the decline in apprenticeship numbers and the need for reform to address youth unemployment and disengagement from education and training.
  • Pakes asked the government to remove academic requirements and to reform apprenticeship standards to better suit business needs and learner readiness.
  • The Minister acknowledged inherited challenges, including a 22 billion deficit and one in eight 16 to 24-year-olds not in education, employment or training, and highlighted skills shortages and the need for investment in technical training.

Key requests to Government

Pakes asks the Minister to remove artificial barriers such as academic English and maths requirements, advocating for business-ready functional skills instead, and to reform the apprenticeship standards to benefit both businesses and learners.

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Andrew Pakes Labour (Co-op) Peterborough

Andrew Pakes has expressed concerns over the decline in apprenticeship numbers under the previous government, highlighting the need for reform to address why 900,000 young people across the country are not in education, employment or training. He also mentioned the falling apprenticeship numbers and rising youth unemployment in Peterborough.

Other contributors (24)
  • Adam Thompson Lab Erewash

    Advocates for degree-level apprenticeships, highlighting their unique offering and the need to support career development in small businesses.

  • Alex McIntyre Lab Gloucester

    Highlights the importance of breaking down barriers through apprenticeships and supports reforms such as a youth guarantee and flexible growth and skills levy.

  • Alison Taylor Lab Paisley and Renfrewshire North

    Discussed personal experiences with apprenticeships, highlighting how they can improve productivity and provide opportunities for diverse talent.

  • Alistair Strathern Lab Hitchin

    Emphasises the importance of apprenticeships in delivering on the Government’s agenda and meeting construction, green transition, and job benefits goals.

  • Andy MacNae Lab Rossendale and Darwen

    School leavers are poorly informed about apprenticeship opportunities leading to low take-up rates. Only 25% of school leavers in Rossendale and Darwen choose apprenticeships.

  • Antonia Bance Lab Tipton and Wednesbury

    Made three points: prioritising manufacturing, engineering, and construction; focusing on level 3 and 4 apprenticeships for wage premiums; and addressing the barrier of mandatory grade 4 English and maths at GCSE.

  • Baggy Shanker Lab/Co-op Derby South

    Emphasised the importance of apprenticeships in building skills and addressing skill shortages, especially in critical sectors like nuclear. Highlighted personal experience as an apprentice to advocate for the value of vocational education.

  • Frank McNally Lab Coatbridge and Bellshill

    In North Lanarkshire, there were more than 2,000 modern apprenticeship starts last year. Frank McNally expressed concern about the real-terms cut in apprenticeship funding in Scotland.

  • Gideon Amos LD Taunton and Wellington

    Asked the Minister to facilitate apprenticeships and skills training for Tata’s Agratas gigafactory.

  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    Supports the debate on apprenticeships, highlighting opportunities available in Northern Ireland and the efforts to increase inclusivity.

  • Jodie Gosling Lab Nuneaton

    Apprenticeships provide tailored skills needed for local economies, especially for those who did not fit into the school system. However, barriers exist that prevent small businesses from accessing apprenticeships.

  • Joe Morris Lab Hexham

    Stressed the need for apprenticeship programmes to combat depopulation and increase social mobility in Northumberland.

  • John Slinger Lab Rugby

    Points out that the previous apprenticeship levy was mostly attractive to larger companies, suggesting reforms should encourage SMEs to participate more.

  • Leigh Ingham Lab Stafford

    Ingham agreed with Pakes on the need to widen access to entry-level roles in theatre, highlighting critical skill shortages in technical and backstage roles. Welcomed the debate's focus on apprenticeships, noting the shift from traditional trades to diverse fields. Emphasised the importance of reflecting these changes in policies and welcomed Skills England’s work.

  • Max Wilkinson LD Cheltenham

    Congratulated the lead MP, stating that apprenticeships are a vital part of the education system but noted years of Conservative failure in attracting young people to apprenticeships. Highlighted a decline in new apprentices since 2015-16, discussed pay disparities and called for reform of the apprenticeship levy.

  • Michelle Scrogham Lab Barrow and Furness

    Scrogham highlighted the importance of apprenticeships in the defence sector, citing BAE’s high completion rate compared to the national average.

  • Julie Minns Lab Carlisle

    Emphasized the importance of apprenticeships in her constituency, noting a decline under the previous government despite increases in skilled job vacancies.

  • Nesil Caliskan Lab Barking

    Highlights the skills gap issue in Barking and Dagenham with 46% of 19-year-olds lacking qualifications. Welcomes Skills England's establishment but calls for more details on its timeline.

  • Pam Cox Lab Colchester

    Data from the Department for Education shows a fall in the take-up of intermediate-level qualifications in Colchester. The speaker urges support for intermediate and high-level apprenticeships.

  • Sarah Dyke LD Glastonbury and Somerton

    Dyke expressed support for apprenticeships but raised concerns about the apprenticeship levy's negative impact on rural areas, suggesting it should be scrapped.

  • Shockat Adam Ind Leicester South

    Every £1 invested in level 2 and level 3 apprenticeships sees a return of between £26 and £28. Shockat Adam emphasised the importance of apprenticeships for individuals who do not thrive in traditional academic environments.

  • Terry Jermy Lab South West Norfolk

    In rural areas, apprenticeships are crucial for industries such as land management and farming. Warren Services in Thetford is an example of a business committed to building the workforce of the future through apprenticeships.

  • Tony Vaughan Lab Folkestone and Hythe

    Addressed the decline in apprenticeship starts in construction and highlighted the potential for growth in Folkestone and Hythe, advocating for investment by businesses to support young people's employment.

  • Wendy Morton Con Aldridge-Brownhills

    Between 2010 and 2024, the Conservative Government delivered 5.8 million apprenticeships. Wendy Morton highlighted the importance of high-quality apprenticeships and raised concerns about funding for SMEs due to increased employer national insurance contributions.

Government Response

Janet Daby

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Education

The Minister acknowledges that they inherited a £22 billion black hole and one in eight 16 to 24-year-olds not in education, employment or training. UK employers reported a third of vacancies due to skills shortages under the previous Government, with technical training at level 4 and 5 at only 4% of adults compared to Germany's 20% and Canada's 34%. The Minister stresses investment in people's future careers for change. National Apprenticeship Week promises to be the best yet, with more than 1,000 events across the country showcasing all that apprenticeships have to offer. Apprenticeship starts by young people under 25 fell by almost 40% between 2015-16 and 2023-24. We are committed to changing this and introducing new foundation apprenticeships in targeted, growing sectors. The apprenticeship minimum wage is being increased by 18%, from £6.40 to £7.55. Apprentices under the age of 25 who have been in local authority care can claim a bursary of £3,000 when they start an apprenticeship. We will continue to support care leavers and those aged under 19 or 19 to 24 if they have an education, health and care plan or have been in care with £1,000 payments to both employers and training providers. Apprentices aged up to 25 are exempt from paying towards employees’ national insurance when the employee’s wage is below £50,270 a year. We are promoting career starter apprenticeships through the Skills for Life campaign, targeting young people leaving full-time education. We will introduce shorter duration apprenticeships and focus on establishing a coherent skills system with more flexible training options to support employers in filling skill gaps.

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