Commons Sense

House of Commons · Westminster Hall

Restoration and Renewal — [Derek Twigg in the Chair]

07 July 2022 · 6 other contributors · 13,392 words

Opened by Geoffrey Clifton-Brown Con North Cotswolds

Responding minister: Marcus Jones

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At a glance

Geoffrey Clifton-Brown raised concerns about restoration and renewal — [derek twigg in the chair] in Westminster Hall. A government minister responded.

Key points

  • The Palace of Westminster requires urgent restoration and renewal to address asbestos removal, fire safety, accessibility for disabled individuals, and decarbonisation.
  • The cost of the restoration and renewal programme is estimated between 8 billion and 18 billion.
  • The lead MP asks for the establishment of a new joint department to oversee the programme and provide regular updates on project progress.

Key requests to Government

The lead MP asks for the establishment of a new joint department to oversee the restoration and renewal programme, ensuring clear lines of communication with Parliament and regular updates on project progress.

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Geoffrey Clifton-Brown Con North Cotswolds

The Palace of Westminster requires urgent restoration and renewal to address issues such as asbestos removal, fire safety, accessibility for disabled individuals, and decarbonisation. The cost is estimated between £8 billion and £18 billion, with the project potentially involving a full or partial decant due to complexity. There are concerns about potential overruns and lack of clear deadlines leading to increased costs and delays.

Other contributors (6)
  • Clive Betts Lab Sheffield South East

    I am listening with interest to the hon. Member's comments and express concerns that bringing the arrangements for the organisation of this massive project in-house will not necessarily solve difficulties, given our track record of managing large capital projects. He mentioned a potential solution involving the shortening of the summer recess for works, suggesting that this could save money and improve functionality. He noted that while it may not be an absolute solution, it is worth examining.

  • John Nicolson SNP Nairn, Aberdeenshire and Moray

    The Palace of Westminster is a UNESCO world heritage site with historical significance. The building has faced challenges such as fires and needs restoration to preserve its architectural glories while also modernising it for contemporary work practices. There are issues like lack of disability access, childcare facilities, and outdated voting systems which need addressing.

  • Nick Brown Lab Dewsbury

    Mr Brown expressed his pleasure at serving under the chairmanship and highlighted the importance of financial oversight in the Restoration and Renewal project. He noted that more detailed professional advice at the start could have prevented cost overruns, and he questioned the wisdom of not including Norman Shaw South in the programme. Mr Brown also raised concerns about asbestos in the building and suggested re-routing as a solution, emphasizing the need for experts rather than MPs finding solutions.

  • He pointed out that decanting would involve complications with the sewerage system running from one end of the building to the other. He also suggested that Parliament should have control over the project timeline and budget, similar to how it was done for the High Speed 2 project. The project must move forward as the current infrastructure requires significant overhaul due to its hazardous conditions, including asbestos and outdated sewage systems. A full decant is necessary for safety and efficiency.

  • Robin Millar Con Wyre Forest

    Acknowledges the work on the Restoration and Renewal project, emphasizing the importance of not allowing specification creep. Highlights the need for clarity in project scope, procurement, knowledge curation, innovation in governance structures, and ensuring continuity of function.

  • Thangam Debbonaire Lab Bristol West

    Appreciated the consensual nature of the debate and emphasized the importance of scrutiny and engagement in the restoration process. Highlighted concerns about value for money, financial oversight, transparency, political interference, and safety issues such as asbestos, fires, and plumbing problems.

Government Response

Marcus Jones

Congratulated the Member securing the debate, recognised contributions from all Members. Confirmed need to restore the building while considering economic context. Proposed new governance structure for more flexibility and closer engagement with MPs. Emphasised expertise will remain in place despite changes. Highlighted initial priorities including fire safety and asbestos management. Reassured concerns over expert knowledge, bringing work in-house and specification creep. Addressed disabled access facilities inadequacy. Pledged support for motion next week to advance project.

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