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[Mark Pritchard in the Chair]
24 October 2023
Lead MP
Margaret Greenwood
Wirral West
Lab
Responding Minister
Will Quince
Tags
NHSTaxationEmploymentMental Health
Word Count: 13907
Other Contributors: 12
At a Glance
Margaret Greenwood raised concerns about [mark pritchard in the chair] in Westminster Hall. A government minister responded.
Key Requests to Government:
The Labour party calls on the government to significantly increase funding for the NHS and tackle poverty and inequality. They urge the Chancellor to allocate additional spending towards the NHS in his autumn statement.
How the Debate Unfolded
MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said:
Lead Contributor
Professor Sir Michael Marmot and Professor Philip Banfield have expressed concern that recent Governments are running down the NHS due to a lack of adequate resources. The Health and Social Care Act 2012 and the Health and Care Act 2022 fragmented the NHS, increasing opportunities for privatisation. Inflation, population growth, and ageing populations have not been adequately funded, leading to a record high of waiting lists at 7.75 million patients with over 9,000 people waiting more than 18 months for treatment. There are also staffing shortages across the NHS, including nearly 43,000 nursing vacancies.
Amy Callaghan
SNP
Glasgow Cathcart
Amy Callaghan highlighted the negative impact of real-term cuts to funding on Scotland's NHS due to Britain-wide privatisation. She praised the Scottish Government's investments such as the young patients family fund and a £300 million pledge to cut waiting times, aiming for 100,000 fewer patients by 2026. She raised concerns about reduced staffing levels caused by Brexit and the need for migration policy devolution to Scotland. Callaghan questioned the Treasury's impact on NHS funding in Scotland via private enterprise investment.
Anna Firth
Con
Southend West
Record investment is being made into the NHS, with £182 billion spent in 2022. The speaker highlighted the need for capital investment to reach South Essex hospitals and raised concerns about missing millions of promised funding. She also discussed innovative services like fracture liaison clinics that save money and prevent fractures.
Carla Lockhart
DUP
Upper Bann
The DUP MP supported the Liberal Democrat viewpoint on healthcare worker pay, urging the Minister to address this issue without relying on a functioning Stormont Assembly for funds. She emphasized the importance of recognising and compensating NHS workers appropriately.
Chris Bryant
Lab
Rhondda
Responded briefly to a point raised by Margaret Greenwood about private sector involvement, emphasizing the importance of maintaining public control over NHS assets and services.
Shrewsbury and Atcham
Asked the hon. Lady where additional funding for the NHS would come from, questioning if she wanted to move funds from other Departments or increase taxation and borrowing. The state-run NHS model has led to inefficiencies in Shropshire, where a local trust received £312 million for A&E services modernisation seven years ago but construction still hasn't started. The Member is concerned about the failure to implement £312 million investment in A&E services at Royal Shrewsbury Hospital, citing a lack of accountability and transparency within the NHS trust. He also criticised local council interference and advocated for private sector involvement in the NHS. Daniel Kawczynski asked Amy Callaghan whether, as part of a Labour Government, she would support an £312 million investment in the Shrewsbury and Telford Hospital NHS Trust. I am concerned that despite securing £312 million for the modernisation of A&E services in Shropshire seven years ago, no progress has been made. I question the sustainability of an NHS model where local trust managers fail to deliver on construction projects.
Ian Lavery
Lab
Blyth and Ashington
Called for the NHS to take control of idle Rutherford Cancer Centres in his constituency to help reduce cancer waiting lists.
Janet Daby
Lab
Lewisham East
Ms Daby highlighted the inadequacies in NHS services, particularly concerning sickle cell disease patients. She noted that approximately 15,000 to 18,000 people live with this condition and cited the 'No One's Listening' report from 2021 which detailed serious failings in care delivery, including racial biases affecting patient treatment. Ms Daby also addressed the financial disparity in research funding between sickle cell disease and other conditions like cystic fibrosis, pointing out that despite more patients with sickle cell, cystic fibrosis receives over a million pounds more annually for research.
Jim Shannon
DUP
Strangford
Jim Shannon commended NHS staff for their dedication during the pandemic and current healthcare challenges. He highlighted issues such as long waiting times, understaffing, and lack of funding. Shannon also emphasized the importance of supporting medical advancements in Northern Ireland, citing Queen's University Belfast's role in developing new treatments.
Kim Johnson
Lab
Liverpool Riverside
The Member highlighted health inequalities exacerbated by austerity measures, advocating for increased public funding and regulation to combat the negative effects of privatisation and fragmentation within the NHS.
Marie Rimmer
Lab
St Helens South and Whiston
The NHS is struggling with understaffing, leading to long waiting lists and poor patient care. The UK has fewer doctors and nurses per person than the EU average. Temporary staff are hired at a cost of £3 billion annually, but this does not address the root cause. Training more homegrown medical professionals and improving retention through better working conditions are necessary for a sustainable solution.
Preet Kaur Gill
Lab Co-op
Birmingham Edgbaston
The NHS faces an unprecedented challenge with patient outcomes declining and public satisfaction at a 40-year low. The current situation could lead to a two-tier healthcare system, where those who can pay are treated while others wait indefinitely. Ms Gill highlighted the need for reform, investment in training doctors and nurses, and shifting more care to community settings. She also discussed the importance of tackling preventable diseases through lifestyle changes and the critical state of NHS dentistry, with many areas experiencing shortages. Concerns were raised about outdated equipment, workforce shortages, and a lack of strategic planning.
Richard Foord
Lib Dem
Honiton and Sidmouth
The NHS is struggling with increasing waiting lists, with nearly 9,000 people waiting more than 18 months for treatment. Specific cases, like a constituent needing knee replacement, highlight the delays impacting individuals' ability to work. The speaker also pointed out issues in primary care and dentistry due to staff shortages and lack of availability, especially in rural areas. He advocated for significant reform in social care integration with NHS.
Government Response
Will Quince
Government Response
Responded to the debate by addressing funding, workforce issues, and transformation in the NHS. He stated that core spending will increase from £140.5 billion in 2019-20 to £193 billion in 2024-25, a cash increase of £52.6 billion or 37%. Rejected claims of privatisation, noting the NHS constitution supports private sector involvement for patient choice and control. He also highlighted workforce plans with an additional £2.4 billion over five years to fund more doctors and nurses. Emphasised digital transformation with a £1.5 billion annual investment in technology. The minister mentioned commitments to life sciences with over £210 million invested, focusing on dementia, mental health, cancer, obesity, addiction missions, and genomic medicine.
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