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British Sign Language — [Esther McVey in the Chair]
17 October 2023
Lead MP
Chloe Smith
Norwich North
Con
Responding Minister
Tom Pursglove
Tags
Children & Families
Word Count: 12143
Other Contributors: 7
At a Glance
Chloe Smith raised concerns about british sign language — [esther mcvey in the chair] in Westminster Hall. A government minister responded.
Key Requests to Government:
The Minister must ensure that the Act's guidance improves public service communications and accessibility, sets targets for Departments, and responds to feedback from deaf communities. Additionally, he should update on progress with the advisory board, improving Access to Work services for deaf users, and how tandem legislation will enable legal redress.
How the Debate Unfolded
MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said:
Lead Contributor
The Government's BSL Act is necessary to address decades of exclusion faced by deaf people in the UK. The inaugural report revealed concerning gaps, such as zero usage of BSL in public announcements and policy changes. There are also issues with access to family sign language support being a postcode lottery, inadequate digital BSL services leading to financial difficulties for some individuals, and limited signing provision in hospitals.
Brent Central
Welcomed the first British Sign Language report and recognised the importance of supporting BSL users, noting improvements in Government communication but highlighting inconsistencies in financial support across local authorities. Pledged to continue advocating for annual reports and improvement plans for each Department. She highlighted the need for specialist support for people fleeing domestic abuse who require sign language interpreters, noting that the abuser often acts as interpreter and that Departments must provide additional support in such cases.
Daniel Poulter
Con
Central Suffolk and North Ipswich
He congratulates Esther McVey on securing the debate, highlighting public service barriers faced by deaf people. He suggests exploring British Sign Language as a GCSE to better support young people in understanding and communicating with deaf individuals.
Ian Caws
Lab
Bolton West
Urged the Minister not just to introduce a GCSE in BSL but to provide updates on progress, emphasizing the importance of early intervention for deaf children and their families.
Jim Shannon
DUP
Strangford
Jim Shannon highlighted the importance of British Sign Language (BSL) and Irish Sign Language (ISL) in Northern Ireland, noting that approximately 3,500 people use BSL as their first language while around 1,500 use ISL. He emphasized the need for a sustainable number of interpreters in the NHS and suggested incorporating sign language modules into university training programs for nurses and medical students. Shannon also discussed the inclusion of basic sign language education in Northern Ireland schools. He asked the Minister to engage with Education Ministers regarding the inclusion of basic sign language education in schools, citing his grandchildren's experience with rudimentary sign language at school and its potential benefits for understanding those who use it.
Kirsty Blackman
SNP
Aberdeen North
Celebrated the eighth anniversary of the British Sign Language (Scotland) Act 2015, highlighting Scotland's strategy with 70 actions across ten long-term BSL ambitions. Emphasised the importance of involving deaf community members in decision-making processes to ensure that lived experience informs decisions. Discussed measures taken during the pandemic, including support for interpreters and initiatives to teach BSL in schools and universities.
Lilian Greenwood
Lab
Nottingham South
Ms Greenwood acknowledged the importance of the BSL Act in recognising British Sign Language and expressed disappointment that only six Departments had used BSL for publicity, with some not producing any communications in BSL during the reporting period. She highlighted the need for Government to provide accessible information to deaf people and stressed the significance of involving the deaf community in creating guidance. Greenwood reflected on the Minister's comments about Departments' efforts in producing British Sign Language communications, suggesting that future reporting should include proportions of announcements made in BSL rather than just raw numbers to provide a clearer picture of Departments' engagement.
Vicky Foxcroft
Lab
Lewisham North
The MP paid tribute to the campaigners for the British Sign Language Act and highlighted that its implementation has been disappointing. She criticised low figures for BSL communications from Government Departments, citing examples like No. 10's lack of provision during the cost of living crisis. Foxcroft also questioned why Treasury did not produce any BSL publications regarding the cost of living support available to deaf communities.
Government Response
Tom Pursglove
Government Response
The Minister acknowledges the cross-party support for the British Sign Language Act 2022 and emphasizes ongoing efforts to improve BSL usage across government departments. He discusses judicial reviews related to BSL interpretation, progress on health services using BSL, and commitments to annual reporting and five-year plans within each department. The minister also notes a public consultation on the BSL GCSE and commits to publishing guidance promoting the use of British Sign Language.
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