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Access to Broadband Services — [Sir Christopher Chope in the Chair]
06 September 2023
Lead MP
Alyn Smith
Responding Minister
John Whittingdale
Tags
ScotlandWales
Word Count: 13735
Other Contributors: 14
At a Glance
Alyn Smith raised concerns about access to broadband services — [sir christopher chope in the chair] in Westminster Hall. A government minister responded.
Key Requests to Government:
I want us to work together to target the areas that need it most, focusing on faster activity and a better focus on rural areas. I suggest considering alternative means of delivery such as satellite and 4G broadband, which could provide immediate solutions for those currently lacking full-fibre connectivity.
How the Debate Unfolded
MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said:
Lead Contributor
Opened the debate
I am deeply concerned for the people I represent who are being left behind by government policy, both in Scotland and the UK. In St Ninians in Stirling, I have fantastic full-fibre broadband, but many other areas face significant issues with access to broadband services. Only 48.7% of premises in Stirling currently have gigabit availability despite some of the best broadband existing there. This disparity highlights that many rural and remote areas are still struggling to gain adequate internet connectivity.
Ben Lake
PC
Ceredigion Preseli
Ben Lake highlighted the need for better broadband in his constituency, where only 14% of premises can receive speeds up to 10 Mbps. He noted that communities like Cwmystwyth are facing challenges without adequate broadband and mobile signal during severe weather events. He also mentioned a census showing a 5.9% population drop in the constituency, with many people moving due to hybrid working opportunities. Lake emphasized the importance of connectivity for businesses and public services, and praised the Government's gigabit voucher scheme but expressed concern over delays and funding issues.
Ceredigion
PC
Ben Lake
Pressed for progress on the procurement contract for south-west Wales and emphasized the importance of not dragging feet. Raised concerns about public switched telephone network disconnections if broadband is unavailable.
Chris Bryant
Lab
Rhondda and Ogmore
Discussed challenges in rural areas like Rhondda, mentioning difficulties with mobile telephony and broadband connectivity due to geographical constraints. Highlighted issues such as lack of competition among service providers, road damages caused by repeated digging for cables, impact on older citizens and businesses, need for coordination between public services, importance of broadband for hybrid working, and concerns over affordability in impoverished areas.
Emma Hardy
Lab
Kingston upon Hull West and Haltemprice
Expressed concern about the legacy of full-fibre broadband in Hull but also issues with new companies digging up streets to install their own poles, causing disruption for residents. Raised the lack of legal rights for residents to refuse poles or contest their placement, despite existing infrastructure. Before the Minister's speech concludes, will he address the specific problems we are facing in Hull? Can I push him again to agree to meet me and the other local MPs to discuss these issues in more detail, so that we can hopefully find a way to get Ofcom to take this problem more seriously? Any conditions that are set do not appear to be mandatory—that is my understanding. This is the situation from both Hull City Council and East Riding of Yorkshire Council; my constituency covers both. On the issue of Ofcom, I have to say that I have not found it at all effective in this area and I do not believe it is carrying out its full duties as a regulator in taking this matter seriously and taking action.
Flick Drummond
Con
Meon Valley
Discussed efforts to improve broadband in Meon Valley, highlighting success with the gigabit voucher scheme and collaboration with Openreach and Building Digital UK. Noted the impact of slow internet speeds during the pandemic for NHS workers and families managing remote schooling. Raised concerns about digital exclusion among older residents and requested information on plans to support computer literacy.
Carmarthen East and Dinefwr
Welcomes the roll-out of full-fibre coverage but raises concerns over low take-up rates in Carmarthenshire. Questions what can be done to increase uptake, suggesting it is a waste if public funds are not utilised effectively. Discusses the collapse of Broadway Partners and its impact on broadband projects in his constituency, asking for clarity from the Minister regarding the status of vouchers and any discussions with BDUK or administrators.
Emma Hardy
Expressed frustration over three separate telegraph poles and cables installed by operators, noting disruption to local communities. Cited powers available for local authorities to set conditions on installation.
Dwyfor Meirionnydd
The community in Nantmor and Beddgelert faces a lack of mobile signal despite an EE Home Office mast being present but not activated. Analogue copper lines were switched off earlier this year, and the area is waiting for eligibility determination under the fibre community partnership programme. This situation represents a significant challenge and crisis with no alternative support available. Will the Minister provide further advice on the process of approving a pre-registered package request under the gigabit broadband voucher scheme? My understanding is that there is an element of uncertainty about that.
Llanelli
Lab
Dame Nia Griffith
Asked for a timetable and targets for broadband roll-out, emphasizing the indispensability of broadband in daily life.
Meon Valley
Con
Mrs Drummond
Called for updates on the £104 million CityFibre contract benefiting around 76,000 premises in Hampshire. Highlighted digital exclusion and importance of ensuring people can access digital technology.
Nia Griffith
Lab
Llanelli
Broadband is essential for modern-day living, enabling online transactions and communication. It is crucial for levelling up rural areas by providing access to education, business opportunities, and diversification options. Nia Griffith criticises the slow roll-out of broadband and 5G under the Conservative government compared to Labour's achievements in first-generation broadband infrastructure competition.
Ronnie Cowan
SNP
Inverclyde
Cowan acknowledged improvements in broadband speed and resilience in Inverclyde but noted that some constituents still face unsuitable service. He emphasized the importance of digital inclusion, comparing it to historical efforts to provide clean water and electricity. Cowan called for legislation considering harder-to-reach areas, noting current estimates indicate 0.3% of properties are too expensive to reach via fibre cable. He urged future-proofing infrastructure by designing for high-speed requirements such as 1 terabyte per second.
Tim Farron
Lib Dem
Westmorland and Lonsdale
He highlighted the importance of broadband in rural communities, emphasizing its role in economic activity and safety. Tim Farron noted that Project Gigabit aims to improve access but will leave approximately 1,800 properties unconnected in Cumbria. He advocated for a more community-based approach like B4RN, which has successfully connected thousands of homes and businesses through full-fibre gigabit internet.
Westmorland and Lonsdale
Lib Dem
Tim Farron
Discussed the B4RN offer in his constituency but noted that a Project Gigabit contract worth £180 million has been signed, covering 59,000 premises in Cumbria.
Government Response
John Whittingdale
Government Response
Acknowledged contributions from Members, congratulated Ben Lake on his recent wedding, and expressed support for Chris Bryant's promotion. Emphasized the importance of broadband in modern life with increasing online services demand. Announced £5 billion investment through Project Gigabit for nationwide gigabit-capable broadband, targeting 85% coverage by 2025 and full coverage by 2030. Highlighted progress from 6% to 77% in four years. Addressed specific concerns regarding commercial roll-out, digital exclusion, affordability, local authority conditions on installations, and procurement contracts for various regions. Noted ongoing discussions with the Scottish Government and the Welsh Government.
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