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Cammell Laird Workers Imprisoned in 1984 — [Sir Christopher Chope in the Chair]
07 February 2023
Lead MP
Gareth Thomas
Harrow West
Lab Co-op
Responding Minister
Edward Argar
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Justice & CourtsEconomyEmployment
Word Count: 12844
Other Contributors: 12
At a Glance
Gareth Thomas raised concerns about cammell laird workers imprisoned in 1984 — [sir christopher chope in the chair] in Westminster Hall. A government minister responded.
Key Requests to Government:
Either a public inquiry should review the treatment of the 37 or their case should be reviewed by the Criminal Cases Review Commission, given that contempt cases resulting in prison are not currently within scope. The law would need to change if the latter option is pursued.
How the Debate Unfolded
MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said:
Lead Contributor
In October 1984, 37 trade unionists were arrested and imprisoned for up to 30 days after occupying a gas rig at Cammell Laird shipyard in Birkenhead. No other industrial action resulted in such severe imprisonment of workers. The men lost their jobs, redundancy pay, and pension benefits upon release from prison. They also faced blacklisting and struggled to find work afterwards. The decision was grossly unfair and disproportionate. Gareth Thomas argues that the Cammell Laird 37 were part of an official national dispute and enabled essential maintenance on a destroyer being built at the time.
Alex Cunningham
Lab
Stockton North
Alex Cunningham paid tribute to the GMB union for supporting Cammell Laird workers and discussed the historic injustice faced by these workers in 1984. He highlighted the impact of job cuts, strikes, and imprisonment on workers' lives and their subsequent hardships, including blacklisting and loss of pension rights. He urged the Government to recognise the unjust treatment of these workers.
Andrew Western
Lab
Stretford and Urmston
He thanks his hon. Friend, noting that the systematic reduction of workforce at Cammell Laird from 5,500 in 1977 to 3,300 by October 1983 highlights attempts to undermine British shipbuilding. He questions whether these actions led to the need for an inquiry.
Chris Stephens
SNP
Glasgow South West
Chris Stephens highlighted historical parallels between the Upper Clyde Shipbuilders work-in and the Cammell Laird workers' situation, arguing that both cases involved political decisions leading to industrial closures and worker unrest. He criticised Margaret Thatcher's government for its ruthless treatment of workers during the 1984 incident at Cammell Laird, including the imprisonment of striking workers, which he described as a denial of human rights. Stephens called on the Government to release documents related to the case and carry out a review into the jailing of striking workers. The Minister refers to the new Bill. If that Bill had applied to the Cammell Laird 37, they would have been dismissed with no right to a tribunal.
Dawn Butler
Lab
Brent East
She supports her hon. Friend's call for justice, highlighting the presence of Cammell Laird 37 members in the Public Gallery and stressing the importance of making all documents public as soon as possible. Is the Minister stating categorically that there are no documents in any Department related to Cammell Laird that have not been released to the public domain?
George Howarth
Lab
Knowsley
He recalls his engineering apprenticeship in Liverpool and notes that Cammell Laird was crucial for training engineers. He suggests a third option similar to the Hillsborough inquiry, where evidence could be reviewed properly. Would the Minister consider an independent panel similar to the Hillsborough Independent Panel if a public inquiry is not possible for legal reasons?
Ian Byrne
Lab
Liverpool West Derby
Paying tribute to the 37 Cammell Laird workers and their families, Ian Byrne highlighted the injustice they faced for nearly four decades. He noted that between 1978 and 1981, Merseyside lost 34,000 manufacturing jobs due to de-industrialisation under Thatcher's government. The strike at Cammell Laird in 1984 was a response to planned redundancies and the targeting of trade union members led to arrests and convictions without fair trial. Byrne called for an apology from the Government based on the European Parliament's ruling in 2014, stating that justice should not be denied.
Ian Lavery
Lab
Blyth and Ashington
Ian Lavery expressed concern about the imprisonment of Cammell Laird workers in 1984, calling it a severe miscarriage of justice. He highlighted the impact on families and communities and urged for a public inquiry to uncover the truth behind these incarcerations.
Jim Shannon
DUP
Strangford
He commends the hon. Friend for securing this debate, agreeing that historical miscarriages of justice are life-changing for those involved and their families. He emphasises the need for legislative changes to prevent future injustices.
John Mann
Lab Co-op
Bassetlaw
John Mann supports the case of the Cammell Laird 37, emphasizing the urgency of their situation and urging full access to relevant papers. He agrees that a significant group of Ministers in 1984 were determined to privatize British shipbuilders regardless of consequences.
Justin Madders
Lab
Ellesmere Port and Bromborough
Paid tribute to Gareth Thomas for securing the debate and highlighted Mick Whitley's work on this issue. Questioned why arrests were made in a civil dispute without clear reasons, suggesting deeper government involvement was possible. Criticised the Thatcher Government's approach towards Merseyside, including managed decline and weakening workers' rights. Raised concerns about judicial impartiality, stating that Lord Justice Lawton expected leniency only if men apologised for their actions. Argued the imprisonment of 37 men was punitive and political, noting it contrasted with similar disputes where no one was imprisoned.
Heywood and Middleton
She congratulates the hon. Friend on securing the debate, noting that Mick Whitley has campaigned tirelessly since 2021 to highlight the immense suffering and economic hardship endured by workers during their detention and afterwards.
Richard Burgon
Lab
Leeds East
The Member highlighted the injustice faced by Cammell Laird workers in the 1980s, describing it as a result of viewing trade unionists as enemies. He mentioned Norman Tebbit's admission to spying on trade unionists and emphasised the need for a public inquiry to address the abuse of state power.
Government Response
Edward Argar
Government Response
Congratulated Gareth Thomas on securing the debate. Acknowledged the significant impact of the Cammell Laird workers' imprisonment in 1984, noting the historical context and current protections for trade unions and individual employment rights. Emphasised that industrial relations are not within the remit of the Ministry of Justice, hence unable to comment on initiating a public inquiry or redress schemes specific to civil claims arising from committals for contempt of court.
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