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Police Funding — [Sir Roger Gale in the Chair]
05 November 2024
Lead MP
Alex Easton
North Down
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Responding Minister
Fleur Anderson
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Policing & ResourcesDefenceEmploymentNorthern Ireland
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Other Contributors: 9
At a Glance
Alex Easton raised concerns about police funding — [sir roger gale in the chair] in Westminster Hall. A government minister responded.
Key Requests to Government:
The hon. Member asks the Government to address the £37 million funding gap through the monitoring round, increase the budget baseline for sustainable funding, and approve the business case to enable police headcounts to recover to previous levels. He challenges the Government to conduct a comprehensive review of policing budgets.
How the Debate Unfolded
MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said:
Lead Contributor
The hon. Member is deeply concerned about the underfunding of the Police Service of Northern Ireland since 2010, noting that while other budgets have increased significantly, policing has faced cuts. He highlights a £166 million funding gap for 2025-26 and further gaps in subsequent years. The hon. Member also mentions diminishing neighbourhood policing, prolonged response times, reduced crime investigation capacity, closing inquiry offices, and compromised support for partner organisations.
Carla Lockhart
DUP
Upper Bann
She highlighted the £37 million deficit in Northern Ireland's policing budget, noting an increase in crime and attacks on females. She also addressed issues such as low pay for police officers leading to high turnover rates, resource strain due to mission creep, and specific challenges unique to the Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) including a lack of mutual support from neighbouring forces.
Clive Jones
Lib Dem
Wokingham
Mr. Clive Jones criticised the previous Conservative Government for under-resourcing police forces, resulting in a high case closure rate without suspect identification and a low charge rate for reported crimes. He highlighted that Thames Valley Police, which serves his constituency, has fewer officers than the national average and cited specific increases in retail crime and business robberies.
Gavin Robinson
DUP
Belfast East
The hon. Member congratulated the lead MP on securing an important debate, acknowledging the projected pressures that police will face in coming years and highlighting issues such as the McCloud judgment, holiday pay issue, legacy liability, and a recent PSNI data breach amounting to £750 million of unfunded pressures. Robinson intervened to clarify that a previous discussion regarding extra funding was in relation to potential compensation costs from the Information Commissioner's Office, which amounted to £240 million. He highlighted the need for adequate resource allocation to cover such costs.
Gregory Campbell
DUP
East Londonderry
The hon. Member congratulated the lead MP on securing the debate and agreed that earlier in the year, the Chief Constable had to apply for personnel from Police Scotland due to insufficient numbers of officers to handle an expected rise in violence.
Jim Allister
North Antri... Voice
He stated that policing in Northern Ireland is in poor condition and criticised the Northern Ireland Executive for not prioritising police funding. He highlighted a real-terms reduction from £903 million to £892 million over 12 years and emphasised the need for more money for the Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI). Allister also expressed concern about the allocation of funds towards the Finucane inquiry, suggesting it would be better used in policing. He criticised the current situation where a convicted terrorist from a paramilitary organisation sits on the Policing Board overseeing the PSNI.
Jim Shannon
DUP
Strangford
Jim Shannon intervened to support his colleague, highlighting issues such as antisocial behaviour, underage drug use, vandalism, petty crime, and paramilitaries in his constituency. He emphasised the importance of community officers' knowledge for addressing local crime effectively. Shannon intervened to discuss special circumstances a year and a half ago where extra funding was provided due to paramilitary feuding, allowing officers to receive more overtime pay. He emphasized the importance of such resources for police operations.
Luke Myer
Lab
Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland
The MP highlighted the increasing crime rate in his constituency, mentioning specific incidents such as a fire, vandalism, and assault. He stressed that residents feel unsafe and lack confidence in the criminal justice system due to delays and underfunding. The MP pointed out a 12% reduction in full-time equivalent police officers since 2010 despite rising demand and an overburdened criminal justice system.
Paul Holmes
Con
Hamble Valley
He congratulated Alex Easton for securing the debate and highlighted the challenges of policing in Northern Ireland. He noted that the Conservative Government had provided £8 million to combat paramilitarism and organised crime, and an additional £31.2 million for security funding. Holmes expressed concern over the PSNI's staffing levels and called on the Minister to outline future discussions with counterparts in Northern Ireland.
Robin Swann
UUP
South Antrim
Robin Swann highlighted the unsustainable number of police officers in Northern Ireland, which has fallen to 6,300. He criticised the lack of support from the Justice Minister and the Department of Justice for Chief Constable's direct intervention with the Prime Minister. He also pointed out unfair comparisons between health funding increases and policing budgets.
Government Response
Fleur Anderson
Government Response
It is a great pleasure to respond to this debate and serve under your chairship, Sir Roger. I congratulate the hon. Member for North Down (Alex Easton) on securing this Westminster Hall debate—hopefully the first of many—on such an important and timely topic. I welcome comments made by my hon. Friend the Member for Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland (Luke Myer), the hon. and learned Member for North Antrim (Jim Allister), the shadow Minister the hon. Member for Hamble Valley (Paul Holmes), and the hon. Members for Upper Bann (Carla Lockhart), for South Antrim (Robin Swann) and for Wokingham (Clive Jones). It is important to be talking about safety—safety on our streets and in our homes, workplaces and schools. Wherever we are, everyone deserves to feel safe, and that is vital. Equality of safety goes alongside all the other equalities that we want to see. This Government are supporting frontline policing levels across the country, putting us on track to start to deliver on the pledge to boost visible neighbourhood policing. It is a key mission of this Labour Government to take back our streets and have safer streets. That is also a key mission in the Northern Ireland Executive's draft programme for government, and we can agree on that whatever party we represent. I pay tribute to the brave men and women who serve in the PSNI and work tirelessly to keep the people of Northern Ireland safe. The commitment and bravery of the PSNI is shown every day; however, two examples vividly demonstrate its commitment and dedication. The terrible attack on Detective Chief Inspector John Caldwell last year reminded us that there is still a small minority in Northern Ireland who wish to cause harm to those who serve. More recently, officers sustained serious injuries while ensuring the safety of others during the violent disorder this summer. In early August, the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland and I met with PSNI and Northern Ireland Fire & Rescue Service members in Belfast during that week of protest to offer our thanks in person. We heard many stories of bravery. The Prime Minister also met injured PSNI officers. It was clear to us all that the response of PSNI to the disorder was a testament to their dedication and ability to deliver safety and security in Northern Ireland. We owe all those who serve in the PSNI our gratitude. The Government will continue to work alongside the Northern Ireland Executive to support the PSNI. In recognition of the unique security situation in Northern Ireland, the UK Government make additional contributions to the PSNI through additional security funding, as has been mentioned. As we announced in the spending review last week, we have increased that funding for the PSNI for the financial year 2025-26. It will be provided with £37.8 million in additional security funding. It was previously provided with £32 million a year, and that amount had been in place since 2015-16. The increased funding that this Government have provided will give the PSNI the resources it needs to tackle the threat posed by Northern Ireland-related terrorism in Northern Ireland and allow it to continue to keep people safe. The need for more funding is understood, which is why I was glad that more money was delivered to Northern Ireland in last week's Budget. It was good news for Northern Ireland. The Budget delivered a record £18.2 billion for the Northern Ireland Executive for 2025-26—the largest settlement in real terms in the history of devolution. That includes a £1.5 billion top-up through Barnett consequentials for 2025-26: £1.2 billion for day-to-day spending and £270 million for capital investment. What will be done with that money? It is for the Executive to set a budget for all Northern Ireland Departments and for the Department of Justice to allocate funding to the PSNI. How that funding is used is an operational matter for the PSNI and the Chief Constable. The need for more funding is understood, which is why I was glad that more money was delivered to Northern Ireland in last week's Budget. It was good news for Northern Ireland. The Budget delivered a record £18.2 billion for the Northern Ireland Executive for 2025-26—the largest settlement in real terms in the history of devolution. That includes a £1.5 billion top-up through Barnett consequentials for 2025-26: £1.2 billion for day-to-day spending and £270 million for capital investment. What will be done with that money? It is for the Executive to set a budget for all Northern Ireland Departments and for the Department of Justice to allocate funding to the PSNI. How that funding is used is an operational matter for the PSNI and the Chief Constable.
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