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Pension Schemes Bill [Lords] - Sitting 2
03 November 2020
Type
Public Bill Committee
At a Glance
Issue Summary
Laurence Robertson is addressing the grouping of amendments with clauses 107 to 117 stand part. Laurence Robertson is proposing amendments to clause 118 of the Pension Schemes Bill [Lords] to enhance the pensions dashboard service. Laurence Robertson discusses clause 118 of the Pension Schemes Bill, which relates to the pensions dashboard and sets legislative requirements for qualifying dashboard services. Laurence Robertson discusses the costs and implementation details of a pensions dashboard programme. Seema Malhotra is addressing concerns regarding pension dashboards, the state pension age, and environmental, social, and governance (ESG) information in relation to the Pension Schemes Bill. The statement discusses amendments in the Pension Schemes Bill requiring trustees and managers to consider climate change targets and report on environmental, social, and governance (ESG) performance. Neil Gray is discussing concerns about Government amendments to the Pension Schemes Bill that could compromise the integrity of the MaPS dashboard by allowing commercial dashboards to facilitate financial transactions. Rob Roberts discusses clause 118 of the Pension Schemes Bill and related amendments, emphasizing the importance of a pensions dashboard that provides clear information to consumers without overly restricting transaction capabilities. Angela Eagle discusses the importance of pensions dashboards and expresses concern over the Government's stance on Baroness Drake’s amendment. The statement discusses the challenges and progress regarding the implementation of a pensions dashboard under the Pension Schemes Bill. Guy Opperman discusses the pension dashboard and its role in empowering individuals with information about their state pension. Laurence Robertson is discussing amendments to Clause 119 and related clauses in the Pension Schemes Bill that aim to require the display of total administrative charges on a pensions dashboard. The speaker discusses the issue of small pension pots being eroded by charges in auto-enrolment schemes. The statement addresses amendments to the Pension Schemes Bill regarding the inclusion of costs and charges in pension dashboards. Laurence Robertson is discussing amendments related to pension dashboards, including reporting requirements and timelines for commercial operators entering the market. Seema Malhotra is discussing the Government's plans for multiple pension dashboards instead of a single public dashboard. Laurence Robertson discusses concerns about the Pension Schemes Bill's provisions regarding pensions dashboards, particularly the removal of the year-long buffer before commercial dashboards can enter the market. The Minister is explaining how data will be handled on pension dashboards and drawing parallels with open banking. The statement addresses concerns about delaying the introduction of commercial pension dashboards following the launch of a publicly owned dashboard. The statement discusses submissions from various organisations and individuals regarding the Pension Schemes Bill.
Action Requested
The speaker has decided to exercise the Chair’s right to amend groupings, allowing a debate on clause 107 and associated clauses after amendment 20 is disposed of. There are no specific future actions proposed beyond this procedural adjustment.
Key Facts
- The grouping of amendments with clauses 107 to 117 stand part was causing uncertainty.
- Laurence Robertson has exercised the Chair’s right to amend these groupings.
- Amendments and clauses will be discussed after amendment 20 is disposed.
- Amendments relate to clause 118 of the Pension Schemes Bill [Lords].
- Amendment 1 requires forecasts and information on state pension entitlements.
- Amendment 2 seeks to include information about the impact of the 'triple lock' policy since 2011/2012.
- Amendments address changes in state pension age, ESG targets, support for vulnerable individuals, and clarity between service types.
- Clause 118 provides powers to set standards for qualifying pensions dashboard services.
- Nearly 40,000 schemes will have to provide data in a suitable format.
- The Government opposes an amendment that would prevent financial transactions through the dashboard.
- The cost is primarily funded through Treasury funding and the pension levy.
- £5 million was set aside for HMRC's work related to the state pension provision.
- The dashboard will be available free of charge to constituents.
- The programme aims to include environmental, social, and corporate governance (ESG) information in a future version but not initially due to simplicity concerns.
- Money and Pensions Service has a statutory objective to ensure information is accessible to those most in need.
- Amendment 7 addresses concerns about commercial dashboards and potential risks to savers.
- Baroness Drake raised concerns in the House of Lords about vulnerabilities with a dashboard allowing financial transactions.
- The FCA reported that product sales data indicated substantial asset movement from defined-benefit (DB) schemes into non-workplace markets since pension reforms were introduced in 2015.
- Labour's research found almost 15,000 women over the age of 65 claiming universal credit due to state pension age changes.
- The Bill now includes a new clause on climate change and TCFD recommendations following Government amendments.
- Amendments require trustees and managers to take climate change targets into account in governance and disclosure.
- The amendments aim to empower individuals to understand their savings' role in tackling climate change through better ESG performance information.
- Baroness Stedman-Scott expressed interest in evolving the dashboard to include ESG data over time.
- Amendment 7 allows commercial dashboards to facilitate financial transactions.
- Only 14% of all pension pots accessed were done so after receiving guidance from Pension Wise.
- Amendments 1, 2, 4, and 5 seek to add information about state pensions for women born in the 1950s and tie up loose ends left by pension freedoms.
- Amendment 14 provides greater information to consumers regarding environmental, social, and corporate governance targets.
- The Bill aims to lay the foundation for data standards and is not focused on the dashboard's final functionality.
- Auto-enrolment has led to multiple pension pots, making it difficult for consumers to track their benefits.
- There are currently 8 million small pots in the UK, expected to rise to around 27 million by 2035.
- Earl Howe emphasized the importance of advice and guidance before significant pensions transactions.
- Amendment 14 addresses environmental, social, and corporate governance (ESG) targets.
- Angela Eagle comments on Government amendment 7 which removes Baroness Drake’s amendment.
- The pensions dashboard aims to help individuals navigate the complex UK pension landscape.
- Baroness Drake’s amendment proposes that the Money and Pensions Service (MaPS) dashboard should be in place for a year before other dashboards follow.
- The former Chancellor George Osborne anticipated completion by 2019 but did not account for industry engagement.
- There are over 40,000 schemes that need to be created with a common dataset.
- Industry failure to prepare properly could have consequences for organisations and constituents.
- Solutions for the small pots problem include consolidation based on cost-efficiency or ESG preferences.
- The Minister is opposed to ruling out financial transactions on the dashboard without future primary legislation.
- Some pension schemes may not participate voluntarily but there are no current obligations specified for them.
- The amendment from Baroness Drake would restrict the capability of the dashboard if accepted.
- The amendments aim to add details about administrative charges to the list of information displayed on the pensions dashboard.
- A study by Which? found that 77% of people would likely use a pensions dashboard, with state pension entitlement being the most desired piece of information (74%).
- More than 70% of non-advised drawdown customers paid more than 0.75% in charges annually, costing them £40 million to £50 million extra each year.
- The general problem with small pots is set charging in pounds rather than percentage-based charges.
- Focusing solely on costs can discourage people from investing due to perceived excessive charges.
- New clause 11 contains an idea for managing small pots and addressing unintended consequences of auto-enrolment.
- The current Bill includes provisions for pension information.
- There is a charge cap limiting how much can be charged annually.
- Ongoing consultations on standardizing cost disclosure are expected to conclude by the end of the year or beginning of next year.
- The proposed amendment extends the period before commercial dashboards can operate from one year to five years.
- Seema Malhotra's amendment requires a report on the operation and effectiveness of the public dashboard service, including consumer protections.
- Clause 122 relates to the Money and Pensions Service's pensions guidance function.
- The amendment introduced by Baroness Drake would require a single public dashboard to operate for one year before other commercial dashboards could launch.
- Labour's position is that a single publicly run dashboard ensures trusted information about pensions.
- In a multiple-dashboard system, providers may have incentives to promote their own products and discourage switching.
- The Pensions and Lifetime Savings Association (PLSA) supports a single non-commercial pensions dashboard hosted by MAPS.
- PLSA opposes Government amendments that would allow commercial dashboards to provide transactional services without the one-year buffer.
- Robertson cautions against rushing into market entry for commercial dashboards due to potential risks of scams and mis-selling.
- The process involves dynamic data handling without storage.
- Similar to cashpoint withdrawals where banks do not share account details with each other.
- Open banking involved a strict regulatory regime and stakeholder buy-in.
- There are approximately 40,000 pension schemes compared to a smaller number of banks in open banking.
- Amendment 16 proposes delaying the introduction of commercial dashboards.
- Which? agrees with concerns about data application but does not support the amendment due to potential risks to innovation.
- The Pension Tracing Service and 'Check your State Pension' already exist as public organisations addressing similar issues.
- Secondary legislation is subject to parliamentary scrutiny through the affirmative resolution procedure.
- Institute and Faculty of Actuaries (IFoA) has submitted PSB01.
- Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer LLP has submitted PSB02.
- Association of British Insurers (ABI) has submitted PSB03.
- Henry Tapper, Chair of Pension PlayPen and CEO of AgeWage Ltd, has submitted PSB04.
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