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Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill - Sitting 8 (Afternoon)

20 October 2020

Proposing MP
Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale
Type
Public Bill Committee

At a Glance

Issue Summary

The statement discusses Clause 8 and its implications on restricting time limits for bringing actions against the Crown by service personnel. The MP discusses concerns about the effectiveness of pre-legislative scrutiny for the Overseas Operations Bill and its potential impact on veterans and armed forces personnel. Kevan Jones discusses the limitations and disagreements over the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill, particularly regarding the rights of veterans to bring claims against the Ministry of Defence. The statement discusses concerns about part 2 of the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill which imposes a six-year time limit on civil claims by veterans, serving personnel, and their families. MPs discuss concerns over part 2 of the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill, particularly regarding the six-year limit for civil litigation. The statement addresses concerns about the impact of part 2 of the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill on veterans' ability to pursue civil claims against the Ministry of Defence. The statement discusses the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill, focusing on legal protections for service personnel against civil claims. Clause 8 and schedule 2 aim to introduce new factors for courts to consider when allowing claims related to overseas military operations beyond the normal time limits, with a maximum limit of six years. The statement discusses changes proposed by clause 8 and related schedules in the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill that introduce a six-year absolute limit for claims for personal injury or death arising from overseas military operations. The statement discusses amendments to extend the time limit from six years to ten years for certain provisions in the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill. The statement discusses concerns about the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill, particularly its impact on the rights of armed forces personnel to bring civil claims. The statement discusses concerns about the Overseas Operations Bill and its impact on service personnel's ability to seek justice for medical conditions. The statement addresses concerns about the limitations on legal actions for service personnel and veterans under the Overseas Operations Bill. The statement addresses the debate on the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill, focusing on the proposed six-year limitation period for claims related to personal injury and death from overseas operations. The amendment proposes a change to the relevant date for starting the six-year limitation period for personal injury claims related to overseas operations in England and Wales. The statement addresses amendments to the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill to change the relevant date from which the six-year longstop starts for civil claims. Chris Evans discusses amendments to the Overseas Operations Bill that would extend the time limit for personal injury claims from service personnel. The statement addresses the clarification of whether nuclear test veterans are covered by the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill, which they are not. The MP discusses concerns about clause 11 of the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill and its potential impact on veterans' rights to file civil claims. The MP is discussing amendments to ensure that legislation does not disadvantage veterans and armed forces personnel. Kevan Jones is discussing the challenges veterans face in bringing claims for injuries sustained during service due to unclear diagnosis dates and complex cases. The debate discusses the impact of proposed changes to the limitations period for claims brought by service personnel and veterans against the Ministry of Defence (MOD). The minister is addressing amendments to the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill regarding time limits for claims. The statement addresses amendments to the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill that introduce discretion for courts to allow civil claims for personal injury or wrongful death from overseas operations to proceed despite delays. The amendment discusses concerns about disapplying the court's discretion to bring forward civil claims for service personnel, particularly regarding personal injury cases. The statement discusses concerns over potential injustices and discrimination against service personnel due to the proposed time limits on claims in the Overseas Operations Bill.

Action Requested

No specific action is requested, but the MP raises concerns about the implications of the Bill on veterans' rights under the Human Rights Act and asks for clarification on how it will be legally implemented.

Key Facts

  • The new clause amends Part 2 of the Bill to exclude actions brought against the Crown by service personnel from limitations imposed in respect of actions relating to overseas operations.
  • Kevan Jones argues that Clause 8 removes court discretion under section 33 of the Limitation Act 1980 and potentially limits Human Rights Act claims.
  • Hilary Meredith testified about difficulties with putting a time limit on Human Rights Act claims constitutionally.
  • The Bill was brought forward as an election commitment.
  • Part 2 of the Bill changes the status of veterans and armed forces personnel.
  • An independent evaluation is proposed within 12 months after the Act's implementation.
  • The Bill was introduced due to litigation cases ranging from 900 to 1,000.
  • 6% of people will lose the ability to take claims against the Ministry of Defence (MOD).
  • Prisoners and asylum seekers have rights under section 33 of the Limitation Act to argue their case out of time.
  • Part 2 of the Bill introduces a six-year time limit on civil claims by veterans, serving personnel, and their families.
  • The Royal British Legion expressed concerns about part 2 of the Bill.
  • Between 19 and 50 veterans and families would be prevented from taking forward their claim due to the proposed new limit.
  • Between 19 and 50 veterans could be prevented from seeking justice due to part 2 of the Bill.
  • The MOD is the defendant in over 75% of claims made between 2014 and 2019.
  • Part 2 of the Bill protects the Ministry of Defence but not service personnel or veterans.
  • Organisations such as the Royal British Legion, Centre for Military Justice, and Liberty oppose the longstop.
  • The Royal British Legion submitted supplementary written evidence in document OOB10 expressing concerns about part 2 of the Bill.
  • Professor James Sweeney's evidence challenges the Minister’s assertions regarding the provisions of the Bill.
  • There were 552 employer liability claims from operations in Iraq and Afghanistan between 2004 and 2017.
  • The six-year time limit applies to serviceperson but not civilian.
  • European human rights law could disadvantage or discriminate against people based on claimant status.
  • BATUS in Canada is a training unit mission, not an operational environment covered by the bill.
  • Deployments in Cyprus and Estonia would be covered under overseas operations defined in the Bill.
  • Clause 8 introduces new factors for courts to consider when deciding claims relating to overseas military operations.
  • The maximum time limit for such claims is set at six years.
  • Section 33 of the Limitation Act 1980 provides discretion for courts to allow claims beyond the usual time limits if it considers it fair.
  • Clause 8 introduces a six-year absolute limit for personal injury or death claims arising from overseas military operations.
  • The Bill amends the Foreign Limitation Periods Act 1984 to prevent claimants from benefiting from more generous time limits under foreign law.
  • According to evidence, 94% of service personnel claims are already brought within six years.
  • Amendments 29 through 54 propose changing time limits from six years to ten years across multiple parts and schedules.
  • The Royal British Legion has concerns that part 2 of the bill may breach the armed forces covenant.
  • The Bill introduces a six-year time limit for bringing civil claims against the Ministry of Defence.
  • Mark Bradshaw developed PTSD in 2010 but was not diagnosed until 2016.
  • Human Rights Act cases can be brought by armed forces personnel against the MOD.
  • The amendment aims to prevent section 2 restrictions from applying to serving and ex-serving personnel.
  • Part 2 of the Bill protects the MOD rather than service personnel.
  • Campaign group concerns highlight potential issues with the Bill's current form.
  • The debate is focused on amendments 30 to 54 with amendment 29.
  • The Minister has committed to cross-party work to improve the Bill.
  • Limitation periods under ECHR regulation are considered compatible with article 6 if there is compatibility with the right to a fair trial.
  • The public consultation in 2019 sought views on a ten-year limitation period.
  • Around 94% of relevant claims from service personnel and veterans already fall within the six-year time limit.
  • Of Phil Shiner’s claims through Public Interest Lawyers, 62% were brought more than six years after the date of the incident.
  • Amendment 76 proposes changing the relevant date from which the six-year longstop starts in England and Wales.
  • The amendment aims to account for legitimate delays experienced by persons bringing civil claims for personal injury arising out of overseas operations.
  • Amendments aim to adjust the six-year longstop start dates for civil claims.
  • Changes are applicable across England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland.
  • 'Date of knowledge' is defined as when a person first knew or should have known about an act and its consequences.
  • The amendments aim to allow legitimate delays in bringing civil claims.
  • The Minister stated that 94% of claims are already brought within six years.
  • Evans raises concern about the impact on nuclear test veterans who may suffer from delayed radiation injuries.
  • A report by the Association of Personal Injury Lawyers notes that service personnel can be misinformed about their right to make a claim.
  • Nuclear tests were not classified as operations under the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill.
  • Nuclear test veterans are covered by a war pension scheme instead, which has no time limit for claims.
  • Chris Evans raises concerns about clause 11 of the Bill.
  • Simon Ellis argues that PTSD sufferers may take a long time to accept their condition and link it to an overseas operation.
  • An employee from Simpson Millar Solicitors expects MOD lawyers could use the new Bill to argue claims are out of time.
  • The amendment aims to remove 'or first ought to have known' from clause 11.
  • Conditions arising from service are often complex and take time to diagnose.
  • Examples include hearing loss, Snatch Land Rovers case, non-freeze injuries affecting Commonwealth personnel.
  • Kevan Jones raises concerns about non-freezing cold injuries and their impact on service personnel's careers.
  • Jones mentions hearing loss as a condition notoriously difficult to determine the date of onset due to varied military careers.
  • He cites an example involving Phil Shiner’s cases, noting 62.7% were deemed to have special circumstances under the Limitation Act 1980.
  • The Snatch Land Rover case involved a serviceman killed in Iraq; his widow's claim was successful after a limitations hearing but would have been barred under the proposed Bill.
  • Cases involving vibration white finger required limitation hearings to proceed due to delayed diagnosis.
  • Nuclear test veterans' claims were argued as time-limited by the MOD in 2009, despite being considered overseas operations.
  • The amendments propose changing technical parts of the Bill related to personal injury and Human Rights Act claims.
  • The current definition of 'date of knowledge' in section 14 of the Limitation Act 1980 is considered satisfactory by the minister.
  • A series of annual tests will be given to service personnel as part of a significant education effort.
  • Amendments introduce discretion for UK courts to allow Human Rights Act (HRA) claims arising from overseas operations despite delays.
  • Amendments account for legitimate and explicable delays in bringing civil claims for personal injury or wrongful death resulting from logistical difficulties or the nature of injuries experienced by service personnel and veterans.
  • The amendments cover courts in England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, and the UK as a whole.
  • Reprieve's evidence highlights issues with schedules 2, 3, and 4 of the Bill.
  • Reprieve states that the Bill creates an absolute bar by removing UK courts' discretion to extend time limits for survivors of abuse or UK soldiers to bring claims relating to personal injury and death.
  • The Intelligence and Security Committee report did not find direct involvement in torture but noted cases where rendition was conducted on behalf of the United States.
  • Mark Bradshaw was awarded £230,000 as a settlement but fears the proposed legislation could discriminate against those who develop PTSD later.
  • A marine with hearing loss had his claim accepted by MOD without argument about timing, but the Bill's time limit would have eliminated aspects of his extensive overseas service.
  • The speaker questions whether the Minister is willing to pass a Bill that builds barriers to justice for victims and injured service personnel.
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