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Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill - Sitting 6
14 October 2020
Type
Public Bill Committee
At a Glance
Issue Summary
The statement discusses the importance of including provisions for investigation in the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill to ensure timely and efficient processes. Kevan Jones discusses the importance of judicial oversight in investigations related to overseas operations involving military personnel. Kevan Jones discusses concerns about the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill, particularly regarding cases like Marine A and limitations on reinvestigations. Kevan Jones criticizes the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill for undermining judicial oversight and the rule of law. Kevan Jones discusses concerns about the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill, focusing on the need for proper investigation and prosecution oversight. MP Kevan Jones discusses concerns regarding the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill's five-year limitation period for prosecutions and its impact on investigations. Kevan Jones discusses the lack of training and accountability within the military chain of command related to investigations and prosecutions of service personnel. The MP is discussing the need for adequate legal safeguards and training for service personnel involved in overseas operations. The statement discusses concerns about proposed new clauses in the Overseas Operations Bill that could hinder independent investigations by service police and add unnecessary delays. Kevan Jones addresses concerns about new clause 7 in the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill, focusing on the balance between investigation and prosecution. Kevan Jones discusses the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill, focusing on the conditions for applying measures in part 1 of the legislation. Kevan Jones discusses Clause 2 of the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill and supports New Clause 1, emphasizing the need for a fair trial in cases involving time elapsed since alleged conduct. MP Stephen Morgan supports new clause 1 to improve the Overseas Operations Bill, addressing concerns about vexatious claims against armed forces personnel. Kevan Jones questions Johnny Mercer about consultations and evidence related to the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill. The statement discusses the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill, focusing on clause 2 which sets out a presumption against prosecution for alleged offences committed by service personnel more than five years ago. Kevan Jones is moving an amendment to ensure prosecutors consider whether any matter tends to reduce or increase culpability, tending against or in favour of prosecution respectively. Kevan Jones discusses amendments related to clause 3 of the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill, focusing on public interest tests, obligations under international treaties, and command responsibility. Kevan Jones discusses the importance of taking responsibility within the chain of command regarding decision-making in military operations. Kevan Jones discusses the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill, focusing on its exclusion of torture and other war crimes from legal protection. Kevan Jones questions the necessity of clause 3 in the Overseas Operations Bill. The statement addresses the Overseas Operations Bill and amendments related to prosecution factors, public trust in criminal justice, and command responsibility for alleged conduct. The statement addresses the concerns raised by Reverend Nicholas Mercer and Assistant Professor Samuel Beswick regarding the impact of the Overseas Operations Bill on service personnel and veterans.
Action Requested
Kevan Jones proposes amendments to include judicial oversight of investigations, with a judge advocate assessing preliminary conclusions within six months. He also seeks to insert clauses ensuring thoroughness, promptness, and efficacy in ongoing or previous investigations, addressing delays and inefficiencies.
Key Facts
- Nick Parker commented that part 1 of the Bill focuses entirely on prosecution, not investigation.
- Major Campbell testified about spending 17 years under investigation and reinvestigation.
- The Judge Advocate General expressed concerns over investigations being overlooked.
- Amendment 2 aims to insert provisions in clause 3 for thoroughness and promptness of investigations.
- New clause 6 proposes judicial oversight with a judge advocate assessing preliminary conclusions within six months.
- Jones supports the service justice system as unique and independent from the MOD.
- New clause 6 allows judges to review evidence after six months.
- Judicial oversight would give direction for investigation timelines.
- Marine A case involves a soldier who shot a wounded Taliban fighter in Afghanistan.
- New clause 6 aims to prevent political decisions from leading to International Criminal Court involvement.
- Proposed new subsection (a) addresses cases like the six Royal Military Police killed at Majar al-Kabir.
- The Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill faces criticism for its handling of new evidence and limitations on prosecution.
- Jones refers to the Criminal Cases Review Commission's ability to review prosecutions and refer them to the Court of Appeal if flaws are found.
- Last week, it was announced that 44 convictions will be overturned due to judicial oversight in the Horizon scandal at the Post Office.
- The Bill focuses on prosecution rather than investigation.
- A presumption against prosecution from the outset is considered nonsensical.
- Reference is made to Judge Advocate General’s letter, noting lack of consultation.
- Concerns are raised about compatibility with International Criminal Court treaty obligations.
- The Bill's current proposal is a five-year limitation period for prosecutions.
- Defence Committee initially supported a 10-year presumption against prosecution.
- Chris Evans raised concerns about investigations taking longer than five years to conclude properly.
- Judge Advocate General Jeff Blackett warned that the provision could encourage accused persons to frustrate investigations past the five-year point.
- In 2013, the UK High Court held that there might have been systemic abuses due to lack of appropriate training.
- The Ministry of Defence working group in 2018 concluded there was sufficient evidence of assaults in detention and may have been systemic.
- The Bill aims to provide a framework for prompt and adequate investigations.
- Investigations must clear wrongly suspected individuals without risk of reinvestigation, while ensuring accountability for guilty parties.
- The definition of overseas operations includes peacekeeping, terrorism, civil unrest, and serious public disorder.
- Clause 1(3) applies to all investigations on overseas operations by service personnel.
- There were approximately 3,000 service police investigations in Iraq and 1,000 in Afghanistan.
- Section 115A of the Armed Forces Act 2006 enshrines independence for the service police.
- New clause 7 seeks to limit reinvestigations of historical offences.
- The Bill affects 3,500 cases in Iraq and 1,000 in Afghanistan.
- Clause 1 sets conditions for when measures must be applied by prosecutors.
- The legislation applies to members of armed forces, regulars, reserves, and British overseas territory forces operating as part of UK forces.
- The alleged conduct must occur while personnel are deployed on an operation outside the British Islands facing attack or violent resistance.
- A five-year timeline for prosecution starts from the date of the offence.
- Kevan Jones discusses Clause 2 of the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill.
- He supports new clause 1 for fair trials in cases with a lapse in time since alleged conduct.
- Jones criticizes the Minister for reading pre-prepared civil service briefs instead of engaging in discussion.
- The presumption against prosecution in clause 2 does not protect armed forces personnel adequately.
- New clause 1 aims to end vexatious claims and ensure quicker decisions on prosecutions.
- The International Committee of the Red Cross submitted evidence raising concerns about clause 2.
- Article 53 of the ICC statute outlines a procedure for cases where prosecution may not serve justice.
- Judge Blackett, former Judge Advocate General, stated there should not be a presumption against prosecution.
- The Minister has published a response to their consultation which was widely available.
- They have engaged with multiple parties during the development of part 1 of the Bill.
- Johnny Mercer met with Judge Blackett after the legislation was prepared.
- Clause 2 sets out a presumption against prosecution for offences committed more than five years ago.
- The threshold for rebutting the presumption is high but not absolute, allowing prosecutions in exceptional cases.
- Consultations have been held with experts and stakeholders throughout the process to ensure compliance with international legal obligations.
- Amendment 1 would modify clause 3 to leave out certain terms.
- Amendments 3, 4, and 5 propose adding new considerations for prosecutors in clause 3.
- Amendment 13 excludes prosecution of serious international crimes from limitations imposed by the Bill.
- Amendments 58 through 67 add specific reference to existing domestic offences related to grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions, torture, genocide, and other war crimes.
- Amendment 12 proposes a five-year period for the Act's effectiveness with conditions tied to independent reviews ensuring compliance with international treaty obligations.
- Amendments relate to clause 3.
- Amendment 3 aims to maintain public trust in the service justice system.
- Amendment 4 concerns obligations under articles 2, 3, 4 and 5 of the European convention on human rights.
- Amendment 5 addresses command responsibility for alleged conduct.
- Kevan Jones introduced the Service Complaints Commissioner for the Armed Forces.
- There was initial fear among military personnel about the introduction of an armed forces ombudsman.
- The amendment aims to probe issues related to trust and accountability within the military judicial system.
- The Bill excludes sexual offences but not other serious crimes like torture.
- Amendments aim to include all war crimes listed under Article 7 of the Rome statute in Schedule 1 exclusions.
- The amendments seek to protect UK troops from international courts while aligning with international humanitarian law.
- Kevan Jones questions Johnny Mercer about the need for clause 3 in the Overseas Operations Bill.
- Jones argues that the service justice system already considers special circumstances and applies a public interest test.
- Jones disputes claims made by Mercer regarding industrial levels of claims against personnel.
- Amendment 3 seeks to ensure public trust in criminal justice system and accountability of Armed Forces.
- Amendment 4 aims to give particular weight to UK’s obligations under articles 2, 3, 4, and 5 of the European convention on human rights.
- Amendment 5 is designed to address concerns about holding commanders accountable for their subordinates' actions.
- Reverend Nicholas Mercer is a former Military Lawyer and Command Legal Adviser for the Iraq War 2003.
- Assistant Professor Samuel Beswick works at the Peter A. Allard School of Law, The University of British Columbia in Vancouver, Canada.
- The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) is mentioned as an organisation relevant to the debate.
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