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Health and Care Bill - Sitting 2
07 September 2021
Type
Public Bill Committee
At a Glance
Issue Summary
Steve McCabe, in his role as a Committee member, leads discussions on the Health and Care Bill's data provisions with Simon Madden from NHSX. The discussion centres around the Health and Care Bill's provisions related to data sharing and integration in healthcare. Steve McCabe introduces witnesses Saffron Cordery and Matthew Taylor for questioning about accountability in the new health system proposed by the Health and Care Bill. The statement discusses concerns about the Health and Care Bill, particularly regarding the extension of the Secretary of State's powers over reconfigurations. The speaker discusses the importance of local flexibility in implementing integrated care systems (ICS) under the Health and Care Bill. The discussion centres on the frequency of workforce planning reviews under clause 33 of the Health and Care Bill. The statement discusses the challenges and opportunities related to the integration of health and social care, focusing on issues such as local boundaries, flexibility, and the sharing of best practices. The statement discusses potential disputes and arbitration within Integrated Care Systems (ICS) and addresses concerns about the Secretary of State's powers to intervene in reconfigurations. Steve McCabe introduces witnesses Ian Trenholm and Keith Conradi to discuss the Health and Care Bill and its impact on patient safety and quality of care. Steve McCabe discusses the Health and Care Bill and addresses questions about hospital food standards and the Healthcare Safety Investigation Branch. The discussion focuses on the Health and Care Bill, particularly clauses related to whistleblowing protections and data privacy in healthcare investigations. The speaker discusses concerns about the Health and Care Bill's impact on whistleblowing and patient safety, particularly regarding the powers granted for investigations. Steve McCabe asks if there is anything further to add after a discussion on NHS investigations and formal reporting methods. Steve McCabe introduces witnesses and facilitates questions regarding patient discharge procedures during the pandemic and preventive measures against obesity and fluoridation of tap water. The statement discusses the Health and Care Bill's framework for integrated care systems (ICSs) and the role of local government in addressing health inequalities through place-based approaches. The discussion revolves around the governance and accountability structures within the Health and Care Bill, focusing on decision-making processes and the roles of local government in integrated care systems. The statement discusses the need for improving health outcomes and addressing inequalities in healthcare access and delivery. Alex Norris questions Councillor Jamieson about the lack of local control over the appointment and removal of the integrated care board chair under schedule 2 of the Bill. Steve McCabe is thanking the witnesses for their testimony on the Health and Care Bill. The statement discusses the potential impacts of the Health and Care Bill on Wales and the need for legislative consent from the Senedd. The speaker discusses concerns about the Health and Care Bill's impact on Wales, highlighting issues with late consultation and consent. Steve McCabe acknowledges the conclusion of discussions and thanks Minister Morgan for her evidence on the integration model in Wales. Steve McCabe is discussing the Health and Care Bill, focusing on various submissions and concerns raised by organisations regarding the bill's implications.
Action Requested
McCabe aims to understand the implications of the Bill’s data provisions, particularly regarding public trust and transparency in health data usage. He emphasizes the need for clear communication about how data will be used and safeguards put in place to address public concerns.
Key Facts
- The roll-out of the general practice data for planning and research scheme did not go as planned earlier this year.
- Over 1 million people opted out of the GPDPR process.
- Simon Madden is the director of data policy at NHSX.
- The Bill includes provisions to clarify NHS Digital's ability to share data appropriately.
- Information standards are being mandated in the Bill to ensure interoperability between different IT systems.
- Clauses have been introduced to set a duty to share anonymous health and care information when legally permitted.
- The control of patient information regulations have enabled safer and more secure data sharing during the pandemic.
- Saffron Cordery is deputy chief executive of NHS Providers.
- Matthew Taylor is chief executive of the NHS Confederation.
- The panel discusses the accountability structure in the new health system proposed by the Bill.
- Concerns raised about the extension of the Secretary of State’s powers in relation to reconfiguration.
- The system currently, though imperfect, works relatively well according to the speaker.
- Central-local relationship is critical for effective healthcare delivery.
- The Health and Care Bill introduces the concept of integrated care systems (ICS) in large parts of the country.
- There is a need for local flexibility, with some areas potentially having more power at the system level and others at the place level depending on their unique circumstances.
- Mental health networks prefer specifying mental health leaders on boards, but there's an overall preference for maintaining local configuration flexibility.
- The NHS Confederation suggests that five years is too long for a strategic review, proposing three years instead.
- Matthew Taylor supports a two-year plan as a minimum gap between assessments of workforce needs.
- Saffron Cordery emphasizes the importance of an agreed-upon perspective on workforce planning numbers.
- There are challenges in aligning NHS and local government boundaries for integrated care.
- Local flexibility and variation are seen as critical for innovation and effective integration.
- Peer learning and sharing of best practices across different regions are encouraged.
- Health inequalities have been demonstrated during the covid period.
- Local systems could agree on necessary changes but face potential intervention by the Secretary of State.
- Current powers are seen as unnecessary and redundant, potentially creating friction.
- Ian Trenholm is the chief executive of the Care Quality Commission.
- Keith Conradi is the chief investigator at the Healthcare Safety Investigation Branch.
- The session aims to examine the Health and Care Bill's contribution to patient safety and quality of care.
- Steve McCabe addresses questions from Jo Gideon regarding hospital food standards.
- Keith Conradi discusses the importance of rapid access and data protection for effective health investigations.
- Edward Timpson asks about the statutory footing for healthcare safety investigations and its impact on understanding why events occur in the health system.
- Keith Conradi mentions a clause that requires people to speak to investigators.
- There are protections within clauses, but they could be improved.
- About 1,000 maternity cases are investigated annually by Keith’s team.
- The medical unions have expressed concern about the impact of the legislation on whistleblowing.
- The Bill's powers are considered sweeping, potentially going beyond what is used in other sectors like transport.
- There is a need for safe space where information can be shared without fear of blame or liability.
- Steve McCabe inquires if there is any additional information to be added.
- Discussion involves formalising the relationship between NHSI and reporting back on investigations.
- Councillor James Jamieson is chair of the Local Government Association.
- Professor Maggie Rae is president of the Faculty of Public Health.
- The panel discusses repealed legislation that changed discharge procedures during the pandemic, focusing on patient needs rather than targets.
- Measures in the Bill address obesity and fluoridation of tap water to improve public health.
- Professor Rae suggests simple toothbrushes and toothpaste as an effective measure to tackle oral health within 12 months.
- The Bill requires ICSs to consider advice from directors of public health.
- Health outcomes are largely influenced by non-NHS factors such as environment, housing, and education.
- There is a two-part structure for the integrated care system involving both board and partnership elements.
- Professor Rae expresses concerns about potential further privatisation despite moving away from a market economy in healthcare.
- The legislation includes public health hooks but may not be explicit enough.
- Strengthening the role of statutorily appointed directors of public health is proposed to improve advice on population needs.
- Professor Maggie Rae highlights that UK's health outcomes have worsened compared to other European countries.
- The statement emphasizes the need for early diagnosis and low-cost interventions like smoking cessation.
- Cllr James Jamieson discusses the importance of a holistic approach to healthcare, moving from treating illness to promoting wellbeing.
- Councillor Jamieson is uncomfortable with not having local say over the appointment and removal of the integrated care board chair.
- Professor Maggie Rae acknowledges the reduction in public health funding since 2013, noting it has been cut by 15%.
- Norris suggests keeping the current system for fluoridation while adding a new Secretary of State-led approach.
- The witnesses were Professor Maggie Rae and Cllr James Jamieson.
- Edward Argar was asking questions regarding the balance between permissive and prescriptive approaches to Integrated Care Systems (ICS).
- Concerns were raised about the powers of the Secretary of State to call in NHS reconfiguration proposals.
- The Bill has nine areas that require legislative consent from the Senedd.
- Clause 125 on advertising less healthy food and drink is an important point for Wales.
- Clause 130, which involves international healthcare agreements, is also significant to Wales.
- The Welsh Government had regular meetings with the Bill and policy teams but key concerns were not addressed before introduction.
- Officials received sight of the White Paper statement only on the afternoon before publication and all clauses just a day prior to introduction.
- Wales is mentioned in the extent of the Bill, indicating some areas affect Welsh governance.
- The discussion covered nine issues with agreements reached on seven.
- Eluned Morgan highlighted challenges in integrating health and care services in Wales.
- Transformation funding was used to drive change but there are ongoing challenges in mainstreaming these changes.
- The Health Devolution Commission is mentioned several times.
- Organisations such as Marie Curie, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, The King’s Fund, NHS Confederation, Carers UK, and UNISON have submitted concerns or feedback on the bill.
- Professor Allyson Pollock and Peter Roderick provided powerpoint slides with historical context regarding section 3(1) of the NHS Acts since 1946.
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