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National Security Bill - Sitting 14
18 October 2022
Type
Public Bill Committee
At a Glance
Issue Summary
The statement discusses concerns over the complexity of the two-tier scheme proposed in the National Security Bill for registering foreign activity arrangements. James Gray is addressing concerns about former UK military pilots training members of China’s People's Liberation Army and discusses new clauses in the National Security Bill aimed at preventing such activities. The statement discusses the requirement for individuals to register arrangements with foreign principals for carrying out political influence activities in the UK. Thomas Tugendhat discusses new clauses 14 to 17 of the National Security Bill, focusing on primary registration requirements for political influence activities directed by foreign principals. The debate centers on the inclusion of references to the Online Safety Act 2022 in a new clause, despite it being a Bill that has yet to become an Act. The statement discusses the National Security Bill's provisions related to foreign influence registration and the definition of political influence activities. The statement discusses concerns about foreign influence and political infiltration in the UK, focusing on the National Security Bill's provisions regarding registration requirements for foreign influence arrangements. The statement discusses the National Security Bill's registration scheme for political influence activities, including conduct related to elections and referendums. James Gray addresses concerns about disinformation and fake journalism, emphasizing the need to amend the Online Safety Bill. The statement discusses exemptions to registration requirements for certain arrangements and activities under the National Security Bill. The statement discusses proposed exemptions from the requirements to register under the Foreign Influence Registration Scheme (FIRS) for certain activities. The MP discusses the provisions related to false or misleading information under new clauses in the National Security Bill. The statement discusses provisions related to legal professional privilege, confidentiality of journalistic material, and the publication or copying of information under the Foreign Influence Registration Scheme (FIRS). James Gray is discussing concerns regarding the National Security Bill's regulations and exemptions related to registration requirements for activities that could impact national security. The statement discusses new clauses related to registration requirements for foreign activities and influence arrangements under the National Security Bill. The statement discusses new clause 23 which proposes creating offences for individuals who carry out activities under arrangements that have been registered with false or misleading information. The statement discusses the creation of offences and penalties for carrying out activities under a registrable arrangement where false or misleading information has been provided in connection with the arrangement. The statement discusses penalties for non-compliance with foreign influence registration schemes and provisions for holding corporate officers accountable. The statement discusses new clause 27 of the National Security Bill, which requires the Secretary of State to publish an annual report on the operation of the Foreign Influence Registration Scheme (FIRS). The statement discusses a new clause aimed at distinguishing between the Government's interests and the national interest to prevent conflating them. The statement discusses the debate on new clause 5 regarding Ministerial conduct and engagement with foreign intelligence services. The statement addresses a proposed new clause in the National Security Bill that would require Ministers engaging with members of foreign intelligence services to do so under formal supervision. The statement addresses the National Security Bill and discusses existing measures to counter hostile activity and protect national security. MP Kevan Jones is moving a new clause in support of incorporating a public interest defence into the National Security Bill to protect individuals disclosing serious wrongdoing in government. The statement discusses the inclusion of a public interest defence in legislation to protect individuals who disclose sensitive information for reasons deemed beneficial to the public. James Gray is addressing the procedure for handling divisions during the Committee sitting and informing members about potential suspensions based on voting. The statement outlines provisions for disclosure orders related to investigations of foreign power threat activity, detailing conditions and limitations. The statement discusses new provisions for disclosure orders in Scotland as part of a proposed amendment to the National Security Bill. The statement discusses a new Schedule in the National Security Bill that allows for customer information orders to be made by constables, NCA officers (procurator fiscal in Scotland) to obtain financial institution records. MP James Gray is thanking officials and colleagues for their support during the Committee's deliberations on the National Security Bill. The statement is about thanking colleagues and contributors for their assistance during the process of the National Security Bill.
Action Requested
There are no specific actions requested, but Thomas Tugendhat addresses concerns raised by Maria Eagle about the purpose and timeline of the registration requirement, emphasizing that it is not a sanction but a measure to promote transparency. He also notes that the 10-day registration period is intended for clarity and does not intend to halt processes.
Key Facts
- The new clauses require certain arrangements with foreign powers and foreign persons to be registered.
- There are concerns about the complexity of a two-tier scheme versus a simpler, broader arrangement.
- A 10-day registration requirement is in place for transparency purposes.
- Up to 30 former UK military pilots are thought to have trained Chinese PLA members.
- Pilots were offered packages of up to £237,000 for their expertise.
- The National Security Bill includes provisions to tackle contemporary security challenges such as the described activity.
- The requirement to register arrangements with foreign principals must be done within 10 days of making the arrangement.
- A person who fails to comply commits an offence if they know that the arrangement is a foreign influence arrangement.
- Subsection (7) applies retroactively for arrangements made before the clause comes into force, allowing up to 3 months to register.
- New clauses 14 to 17 relate to primary registration requirements for political influence activities directed by foreign principals.
- A person must register within 10 days of making an arrangement with a foreign principal to carry out political influence activities in the UK.
- Exceptions include recognised news publishers and international organisations, as well as associations formed under the law of another country but made up entirely of UK nationals.
- The Online Safety Act 2022 is referred to in a new clause of another Bill.
- Some MPs question if referencing a pending Bill as an Act is appropriate.
- The Minister denies that the Online Safety Act has been stalled or pulled.
- New clause 15 defines ‘political influence activity’ including lobbying, public communications, and disbursements.
- The list includes His Majesty’s Government, Members of the legislature, and senior officials or special advisers.
- Public communications are registerable if not already reasonably clear that they are made at the direction of a foreign principal.
- There has been a surge in hostile states seeking to infiltrate political discourse.
- A German report is investigating civil servants suspected of Kremlin links.
- New clause 14 includes an exemption for recognised news publishers from registration requirements.
- Concerns are raised about ensuring press freedom while protecting against foreign influence.
- The Online Safety Act 2022's status and future are in question.
- Government new clause 15 defines 'political influence activity' for a registration scheme.
- Conduct of elections or referendums falls under criteria of political influence activity.
- Paddy McGuinness stated that measuring state activity impact on democratic processes is crucial.
- The MP asks about the timeline and backdating of the registration requirements.
- The amendment will adjust from “2022” to “2023”.
- Activities ongoing from the moment the Bill comes into force will be covered.
- Regulations establishing the registration scheme will be introduced once the Bill receives Royal Assent.
- Existing arrangements need to be registered within three months from initial off.
- Exemptions apply to UK arrangements and legal services.
- Diplomatic missions and consular posts are exempted under specific conditions.
- Members of staff and their family members forming part of the household are also exempt from registration requirements.
- Exemptions include diplomatic and consular functions, legal services, arrangements involving UK Government officials or agreements.
- The Secretary of State will have power to add further exemptions by regulation in the future.
- New clause 19 gives the Secretary of State ability to make regulations outlining required information for registration.
- New clause 20 provides the Secretary of State with the ability to give a notice to a person who has registered or should register with FIRS.
- On receipt of an information notice, the person must provide requested information within the specified timeframe.
- Failure to comply without reasonable excuse will be an offence.
- Legal professional privilege (LPP) protects communications between clients and their lawyers from disclosure.
- New clause 21 clarifies protections against disclosing confidential journalistic material or sources.
- New clause 25 allows the Secretary of State to make regulations for publishing information related to political influence activities registered under FIRS.
- Information published will be limited to necessary details like registrant name, foreign power, and nature of activity.
- Government new clause 18 creates exemptions to registration requirements.
- Exemptions include support for diplomatic missions and consular posts.
- Family members of principal persons are given a complete exemption under subsections (5) and (6).
- Subsection (3) of new clause 19 requires notification within 14 days of material change in information already registered.
- Subsection (6) criminalizes misleading, false or deceptive information provided to the Secretary of State.
- Government new clause 20 allows the Secretary of State to give a notice for supplying specific information.
- There are concerns about the lack of oversight and appeal mechanisms for information notices.
- New clause 25 permits regulations on publication and copying of information submitted under registration provisions.
- The Secretary of State may issue regulations requiring individuals to register their foreign activity arrangements.
- Information notices must specify the form and date by which information is to be supplied.
- Legal professional privilege and confidential journalistic materials are exempt from disclosure requirements.
- New clause 23 creates offences for carrying out activities under a registrable arrangement where false or misleading information has been provided.
- Offences relate to the primary registration requirement and have a higher bar for prosecution: knowing or ought reasonably to know that the information is false, inaccurate or misleading in a material way.
- Courts will determine on a case-by-case basis whether someone charged with an offence ought reasonably to have known about the false information.
- New Clause creates offences for providing false or misleading information in connection with registrable arrangements.
- Penalties include up to 5 years imprisonment or a fine for foreign activity offences.
- Foreign influence offences carry penalties of up to 2 years imprisonment or a fine.
- Any offence committed under the primary registration requirement is capable of attracting a custodial penalty of up to two years or a fine.
- An offence committed under the enhanced registration requirement can attract a maximum custodial penalty of five years on indictment, or a fine.
- Officers of bodies corporate may be held liable for offences committed by those bodies in relation to the registration scheme.
- New Clause 27 requires an annual report from the Secretary of State to Parliament on matters related to FIRS.
- The report must provide details on the total number of arrangements registered with the Secretary of State under specific sections.
- It includes data on the number of persons charged and convicted for offences under this Part during each relevant period.
- New Clause 4 aims to establish a distinction between governmental and national security interests.
- The clause is shaped by concerns over a meeting between Boris Johnson, as Foreign Secretary, and Alexander Lebedev during the Salisbury poisoning incident.
- Previous attempts to clarify the nature of this meeting were dismissed citing security reasons.
- The new clause applies to any Minister of the Crown who engages with or intends to engage with a person from a foreign intelligence service.
- A senior civil servant must be present at the engagement and make a formal record, or written consent from the Prime Minister is required if no senior civil servant is present.
- Existing case law in the UK already differentiates between national security interests and personal ministerial interests.
- The proposed clause applies both to in-person and electronic engagements.
- It covers any Minister engaging with a person part of a foreign intelligence service who knows or ought reasonably know they are about to engage with such a person.
- An example given is the Foreign Secretary's meeting with Alexander Lebedev, an ex-KGB officer, during the Salisbury poisoning incident in 2018.
- The Bill includes updated espionage offences.
- Clause 3 criminalises activity assisting a foreign intelligence service.
- Ministers can be held accountable if their actions fall outside official functions.
- The new clause has cross-party support in Parliament.
- Former Justice Secretary Sir Robert Buckland supports the proposal publicly.
- Law Commission recommended a public interest defence in its 2015 report.
- Employment law's Public Interest Disclosure Act 1998 provides a template for defining public interest disclosures.
- The new clause seeks to add a public interest defence to the disclosure offence created by clause 2 of the National Security Bill.
- Three out of four Five Eyes partner countries have mechanisms for public interest defences in disclosures.
- The Law Commission's report recommends having a statutory public interest defence available for anyone charged with an unauthorised disclosure offence under the Official Secrets Act 1989.
- The Committee will suspend for 15 minutes during the first division.
- Subsequent suspensions will last for 10 minutes each.
- No debate time is allocated beyond 5:15 pm if discussions continue.
- 'Relevant investigation' pertains to identifying or tracking property linked to foreign power threats.
- 'Appropriate officer' includes police constables and National Crime Agency officers.
- Disclosure orders authorize appropriate officers to request information from individuals relevant to an ongoing investigation.
- The Lord Advocate may apply to the High Court of Justiciary for a disclosure order.
- Conditions 1 to 3 must be met for an application to be granted: reasonable grounds for suspecting relevant property, substantial value of information to the investigation, public interest in obtaining the information.
- A person is not bound to comply with a requirement imposed by a notice unless evidence of authority to give the notice is produced.
- The Schedule allows constables, NCA officers, and procurator fiscal in Scotland to obtain customer information from financial institutions.
- An application must specify the person under investigation and the financial institution(s) involved.
- A judge may grant an order if satisfied that it will enhance the effectiveness of the investigation into foreign power threat activity.
- Bradley Albrow is thanked for his support during the Committee's deliberations.
- James Gray thanks MI5 director general Ken McCallum and his team for their assistance.
- Detective Superintendent Darren Hassard from counter-terrorism policing is acknowledged for providing insight on specific provisions.
- The shadow Minister from Halifax was thanked for her assistance.
- Hon. Friends were thanked for their support and generosity.
- Clerks, Home Office officials, and members of the intelligence community were acknowledged.
- Previous Ministers and Whips were also thanked by other MPs.
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