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Victims and Prisoners Bill - Sitting 3
22 June 2023
Type
Public Bill Committee
At a Glance
Issue Summary
Edward Leigh discusses the establishment of an independent public advocate following a statement from witnesses on the Hillsborough Independent Panel. Edward Leigh is managing time during the Public Bill Committee discussion on the Victims and Prisoners Bill. Edward Leigh is concluding the examination of witnesses regarding the role of an independent public advocate in the Victims and Prisoners Bill. Lord Wills is discussing the limitations of the Victims and Prisoners Bill regarding the role and powers of the independent public advocate. The statement discusses the need for a standing secretariat to support families affected by public disasters and the role of an independent public advocate in ensuring transparency and preventing cover-ups. The statement discusses the challenges and importance of building trust between disaster-affected communities and government entities, focusing on the role of an independent public advocate (IPA) proposed in the Victims and Prisoners Bill. Edward Leigh is addressing the Victims and Prisoners Bill, discussing issues related to the role of Independent Person Advocates (IPAs) and their responsibilities. Edward Leigh discusses the appointment process for a public advocate and expresses concerns about ensuring the integrity and trustworthiness of this role. Edward Leigh is concluding the evidence session and welcoming Ruth Davison and Ellen Miller to discuss the Victims and Prisoners Bill. The speaker discusses the need for stronger enforcement and accountability mechanisms for victim support services, particularly regarding the implementation of the Victims' Code of Practice. Edward Leigh acknowledges the importance of victims' rights and the need for a safe space for counselling and support.
Action Requested
Leigh supports the idea of a standing independent public advocate who can represent families affected by public tragedies and signpost them to necessary support agencies. He emphasizes that such an advocate should be free to make decisions about engaging with families without interference, ensuring true independence.
Key Facts
- Edward Leigh is calling for an independent public advocate.
- The advocate would help families affected by public tragedies in the immediate aftermath.
- Independence of the IPA (Independent Public Advocate) must be guaranteed at the moment of decision.
- Edward Leigh is the MP for Gainsborough (Conservative).
- The discussion is part of a Public Bill Committee on the Victims and Prisoners Bill.
- Edward Leigh intervenes to manage time, specifically calling out Oliver Heald and Sarah Champion.
- The discussion involves the role of an independent public advocate (IPA) proposed by the Victims and Prisoners Bill.
- Witnesses include Rt Rev James Jones and Ken Sutton, who provide insights into the importance of independence and candour for IPAs.
- Edward Leigh acknowledges the contributions from the witnesses.
- Lord Wills acknowledges the government's endorsement of an independent public advocate but finds the Bill flawed.
- The Bill gives the Secretary of State unfettered powers over the appointment and dismissal of the independent public advocate.
- Lord Wills' original Bill aimed to give bereaved families and surviving victims effective agency.
- The proposed standing secretariat would provide immediate support for families affected by public disasters.
- Lord Wills believes it is crucial to prevent cover-ups which erode faith in democratic institutions.
- The Bill should include measures to restrict the Secretary of State's discretion and promote transparency.
- Nick Hurd was Minister for Policing and the Fire Service during Grenfell disaster.
- Tim Suter is a solicitor with experience in major inquiries including Hillsborough, Manchester Arena, Birmingham pub bombings, and 7/7.
- Witnesses support an independent public advocate but express concerns about its role's clarity and potential to manage expectations.
- Edward Leigh is concerned about the clarity of the IPA's role and responsibilities.
- There are questions regarding whether IPAs should be impartial or independent advocates for victims.
- The Bill raises issues about the terms of appointment and resignation of IPAs.
- Nick Hurd expresses concerns about the appointment process for the public advocate.
- Tim Suter agrees on the importance of speed, trust, confidence, and independence in the recruitment process.
- The Inquiries Act 2005 is mentioned as a relevant legal framework.
- Ruth Davison is the chief executive of Refuge, a provider of specialist services for women experiencing gender-based violence.
- Ellen Miller is the interim CEO of SafeLives, an organisation supporting victims of domestic abuse.
- Refuge estimates that full funding of community-based services would cost £238 million per year.
- The Victims' Code of Practice is not effectively implemented or enforced.
- Ellen Miller emphasizes that an IDVA role requires a 12-day training programme as a basic threshold.
- There are concerns about elevating the IDVA and ISVA roles over other vital community outreach roles, potentially impacting funding availability for culturally specific services.
- Edward Leigh thanks Ruth Davison for her input.
- The discussion focuses on the need for a firewall to separate statutory services from immigration services.
- Victims are often deterred from reporting due to fear of criminalisation or loss of rights.
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