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Lifelong Learning (Higher Education Fee Limits) Bill - Sitting 1

21 March 2023

Proposing MP
Bradford South
Type
Public Bill Committee

At a Glance

Issue Summary

Judith Cummins chairs a public bill committee sitting to discuss the Lifelong Learning (Higher Education Fee Limits) Bill, focusing on oral evidence from Professor Malcolm Press. Professor Press discusses the Lifelong Learning Exchange (LLE) Bill's impact on part-time learners and the differences between credit-based and fixed fee mechanisms. MP Judith Cummins introduces witnesses from educational institutions to discuss lifelong learning and higher education fee limits. The discussion revolves around the impact and implementation challenges of the lifelong loan entitlement for students in further education. The discussion focuses on the potential implementation challenges and benefits of a new credit-based method in lifelong learning, particularly within further education (FE) and higher education institutions. The speaker discusses the impact of higher technical qualifications on disadvantaged students and the workforce challenges in the further education sector. The statement discusses the challenges faced by further education colleges in engaging employers and addressing the administrative burdens associated with implementing new educational frameworks. Judith Cummins chairs the Committee session discussing the new system of higher education fee limits based on credits rather than years. The statement discusses the impact and potential of the Lifelong Learning Entitlement (LLE) and short course trials in higher education. The discussion revolves around the implementation of the lifelong loan entitlement (LLE) and its impact on part-time education and apprenticeship training in the UK. The statement discusses the introduction of flexible learning options through modular approaches under the Lifelong Learning (Higher Education Fee Limits) Bill. The speaker discusses the complexities and challenges of implementing modular courses in higher education, including issues with data management, student support services, and regulatory compliance. The statement discusses concerns about the scale and complexity of implementing modular higher education qualifications under the Lifelong Learning Education (LLE) programme, including potential issues with choice overload for students and the need for career guidance professionals to be up-to-date with new qualifications. The discussion focuses on the implications and implementation of lifelong learning pathways under proposed legislation. Judith Cummins ends the Committee session and thanks the witnesses for their evidence.

Action Requested

The meeting aims to gather insights and opinions on how greater flexibility in the student finance system could benefit students and universities, particularly regarding part-time learning, maintenance support, and collaboration between different education providers.

Key Facts

  • Professor Malcolm Press is chair of Universities UK’s advisory group on the lifelong loan entitlement.
  • The meeting discusses the impact of proposed funding models for higher education institutions amid declining unit of resource funds.
  • Collaboration between further education colleges and universities is seen as crucial to building up micro-credentials into qualifications.
  • The LLE Bill aims to open up opportunities for part-time learners.
  • The fee cap is frozen, causing quality delivery challenges.
  • Collaboration between FE and HE institutions is easier in urban areas like Greater Manchester.
  • Ellen Thinnesen is chief executive of Education Partnership North East, which includes City of Sunderland College, Northumberland College, and Hartlepool Sixth Form.
  • Alun Francis is principal and chief executive at Oldham College.
  • Liz Bromley is the chief executive officer at Newcastle and Stafford Colleges Group.
  • 64% of Ellen Thinnesen's college students are from disadvantaged backgrounds.
  • Employer investment in skills has fallen by 28% in real terms since 2005 according to the Learning and Work Institute.
  • Students will have 12 entry points throughout the year for short courses and modules.
  • Alun Francis is the principal and chief executive of Oldham College.
  • Liz Bromley is the chief executive of NCG, a conglomeration of seven colleges across the UK.
  • There are concerns about standardisation of credits and transparency for learners regarding what they are paying for.
  • Industrial workforce relations highlight resistance from some employees to cultural changes in FE.
  • Colleges currently use ILR (individualised learner record) software which will require adjustment for credit-based provision.
  • Employer engagement is crucial for the successful implementation of lifelong learning, especially for disadvantaged students.
  • Disadvantaged students face barriers such as caring responsibilities or lack of confidence.
  • Removing equivalent level qualification regulation allows students to retrain and upskill.
  • The phasing approach starts with levels 4 and 5 in higher technical qualifications before moving to level 6.
  • There is a concern about employers encouraging learners to pay for training that could be covered by employers.
  • Colleges employ business development teams to work with employers on workforce solutions and upskilling.
  • Smaller colleges face difficulties in reconfiguring budgets to invest in resources like employer liaison personnel.
  • Julie Charge, director of finance at the University of Salford, testifies.
  • The focus is on how students will adapt to fee limits based on credits rather than years.
  • Witnesses discuss the need for clarity in linking hours, credits, and modules.
  • Professor Sir Edward Peck discusses the short course trial in its first year, noting that it did not get as many students registering as hoped.
  • There are currently around 9,000 to 10,000 students each year taking up advanced learner loans.
  • The LLE will open up new options for modular provision and skill development, particularly in areas like green retrofit construction where there is a high demand.
  • Thirty credits in the LLE represents approximately 300 hours of learning.
  • In Canada, similar systems offer 10-credit modules which can be bundled.
  • Employers will likely use modular learning for upskilling and reskilling existing staff.
  • The apprenticeship levy is currently not within this legislation.
  • At NTU, most UK undergraduate students are funded by the Student Loans Company (SLC).
  • There are around 2,000 apprentices at NTU paid for by their employers.
  • Rachel Sandby-Thomas agrees that without measures, flexible learning students could be disproportionately affected by fee limits.
  • A phased approach is being implemented starting with levels 4 and 5 of education.
  • Lessons learned from a pilot programme are considered valuable for the implementation.
  • The modular approach will introduce complexity in course structuring, marketing, and admissions.
  • Data returns on modules may create tension with current systems like the Data Futures programme.
  • SITS (Student Information Technical Services) will need to be reconfigured due to its current system architecture.
  • There is a lack of clarity regarding student support services post-university for modular students.
  • The LLE programme includes a higher technical qualification pilot set between 2024-25 up to 2027.
  • There are concerns about overwhelming students with module choices in the LLE.
  • Guidance professionals face challenges staying current with new qualifications and routes.
  • Discussion involves tracking outcomes and success rates for modular course pathways.
  • Apprenticeship levy fund might be utilised beyond current limitations.
  • Complexity in system due to multiple players involved needs addressing.
  • The Chair, Judith Cummins, announces the end of the Committee session.
  • The session ends without a vote being put (Standing Order No. 88).
  • The next sitting is scheduled for the same day at Two o'clock.
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