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Defence Spending: Cross-party Talks

Monday 30 June 2025 · 6 questions

Summarised by AI from the official record, so it can contain mistakes.

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Answered 0 Partly answered 6 Not answered 0

Key points

  • Cameron Thomas raised concerns about the need for cross-party talks on increasing defence spending to 3% of GDP by 2030.
  • Mr Tanmanjeet Singh Dhesi welcomed the Prime Minister's commitment to spend 5% of GDP on defence by 2035, including 1.5% on defence and security-related investment.
  • David Reed questioned Labour's ability to fund their promise to reach 3% of GDP on defence spending, suggesting it was unrealistic.

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Questions & Answers

Q1 Cameron Thomas Ind Tewkesbury
Context

The MP notes the urgency of reaching 3% of GDP for defence spending and highlights specific challenges in force protection, such as Brize Norton's inability to draw support from the Military Provost Guard Service under current budget constraints.

Question

I am concerned about the potential merits of holding cross-party talks on increasing defence spending to 3% of GDP by 2030. There is a great deal of experience across these Benches, and most of us recognise the imminence of the need to hit 3%. My expertise is in force protection, and I know that Brize Norton cannot draw support from the Military Provost Guard Service under the land top level budget, such as at nearby Dalton barracks and South Cerney. That is more acute still at RAF Lossiemouth. Will the Minister meet me to discuss the command structure of the MPGS and bring our experience to the table to find that 3% of GDP imminently?

Answer from The Secretary of State for Defence (John Healey)

My hon. Friend the Minister for the Armed Forces will be happy to meet the hon. Gentleman—he would be a much better person to meet than me on this matter.

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Not addressed: The questioner's request for a meeting was addressed but not directly, instead suggesting another official is more suitable.

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The MP welcomes the Prime Minister's efforts at recent summits but questions how the Government plans to measure and achieve their commitment to spend 1.5% of GDP on defence-related investment by 2035.

Question

UK defence companies need certainty from the Government in order to invest and plan with confidence. I welcome the Prime Minister’s recent efforts at the G7 and NATO summits, and his commitment to spend 5% of GDP on defence by 2035, including 1.5% on defence and security-related investment. Can the Secretary of State clarify how exactly that 1.5% will be measured? Will it involve new projects and investments, or will it merely be a reclassification of existing projects? Crucially, how can industry, public bodies and other stakeholders contribute so that they can help to achieve that goal?

Answer from The Secretary of State for Defence (John Healey)

My hon. Friend asks characteristically searching questions, so let me send him the NATO criteria that were published alongside the pledge last week, and let him and his Committee, when they interrogate me on Wednesday afternoon, pursue any further questions that they might have.

Partly answered

Not addressed: The questioner's request for detailed clarification was not fully addressed; instead, he was referred to NATO criteria and invited to ask more questions in a future meeting.

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Q3 James Cleverly Con Braintree
Context

The MP criticizes the Labour leadership's ability to secure support for defence spending targets and questions how they will ensure timely funding.

Question

There are Members on the Government Front Bench who know a thing or two about leadership—I can say that with confidence, because the Prime Minister is not in that place. The Government have a commanding majority and do not need the support of Members from any other Benches to hit 3% of GDP, and further, if only the leadership of the Labour party could get its own Members of Parliament through the Division Lobby. Given that the Prime Minister shows no ability to do that with the changes to welfare, how will he ensure that 3% is spent on defence in a timely manner?

Answer from The Secretary of State for Defence (John Healey)

The Conservatives “hollowed out and underfunded” defence for 14 years—those are not my words, but those of the right hon. Gentleman’s former Cabinet colleague, Ben Wallace. This year there has been a £5 billion boost in defence spending, but in his Government’s first year, in 2010, there was a £2 billion cut in defence. Just as we boosted defence spending this year, we will increase it to 2.5% by 2027, which is three years earlier than the right hon. Gentleman argued for. We have shown exactly how we will fund that. We have taken the decision—which he did not take—to switch funding from overseas development aid into defence, and just as we have shown where the money is coming from in this Parliament, in the next Parliament we will do the same.

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Not addressed: The questioner's criticism of Labour leadership was addressed with historical accusations rather than a direct response on how to ensure timely funding for defence.

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Q4 Alex Baker Lab Aldershot
Context

The MP welcomes the commitment to reach 5% of GDP on defence spending by 2035 and highlights Cody technology park as a hub for world-class defence innovation.

Question

I, too, welcome the commitment to get to 5% of GDP on defence spending by 2035. It is imperative that the increase in defence spending means that funding is getting to those on the cutting edge of defence innovation. Cody technology park in Farnborough is already home to world-class defence innovation, with a wide range of small and medium-sized enterprises working there, alongside QinetiQ, and it is where DragonFire has just been developed. What role does the Minister see for existing places such as Cody, in delivering our defence industrial strategy? Will she meet me to discuss whether Cody could be the home for the new defence SME hub?

Answer from The Secretary of State for Defence (John Healey)

I see a huge role. I hope that my hon. Friend took the commitment that the Chancellor and I made, alongside the spring statement, to set a new target for direct defence investment in SMEs, as a sign of that commitment. While I am in the business of committing my ministerial colleagues to meetings, I know that my right hon. Friend the Minister for Defence Procurement and Industry would be only too happy to meet her and to draw on her expertise as part of the development of our defence industrial strategy.

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Not addressed: The questioner's request for a meeting was redirected to another official, indicating indirect engagement rather than direct response.

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Q5 David Reed Con Exmouth and Exeter East
Context

The MP questions the feasibility of Labour's promise to reach 3% of GDP on defence spending, especially given their failure to deliver on welfare savings.

Question

On defence spending, is not the truth that Labour’s promise to reach 3% of GDP, let alone 3.5% or 5%, is just smoke and mirrors, because there is no actual plan to pay for it? How can the Government claim that they will properly invest in our defence and keep the country safe when they cannot even deliver the limited savings they have promised on welfare? So I ask the Secretary of State: where is the money coming from?

Answer from The Secretary of State for Defence (John Healey)

I welcome the hon. Gentleman to the Dispatch Box and to the Conservative Front Bench team, alongside his two very distinguished colleagues, the right hon. Member for Rayleigh and Wickford (Mr Francois) and the hon. Member for South Suffolk (James Cartlidge). I gently say to him that, since the election, his colleague the shadow Defence Secretary argued 13 times for 2.5% by 2030. He only changed his tune after February, when the Prime Minister showed how it was going to be funded and said that we would do it three years earlier, in 2027. We have shown how we will raise the extra funding for this record increase in investment in defence since the end of the cold war. We have shown exactly how it is costed and exactly how it will be funded in this Parliament, and in the next Parliament we will do the same.

Partly answered

Not addressed: The questioner's scepticism about Labour's plan was addressed with historical context rather than a direct response on funding sources.

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Q6 Helen Maguire Lib Dem Epsom and Ewell
Context

The MP supports the Government's commitment to reach 5% of GDP on defence spending but calls for more urgency, citing warnings from the International Institute for Strategic Studies about Russia's military challenge.

Question

The Government’s commitment to reach 5% on GDP on defence spending is the right decision. As we face the once-in-a-generation threat from Russia, it is vital that we regenerate our armed forces after years of decline under the Conservatives. However, we need more urgency. The International Institute for Strategic Studies warns that if there is a ceasefire in Ukraine, Russia could<br/>“pose a significant military challenge to NATO allies…as early as 2027.”<br/>In order to strengthen our defence, we need to give people better incentives to join the armed forces. Will the Minister consider accelerating recruitment by backing the Liberal Democrat proposal for a £10,000 signing bonus to attract new recruits?

Answer from The Secretary of State for Defence (John Healey)

We are determined to make our armed forces attractive to those who wish to join them. We have introduced a raft of changes in recent years that will allow us to attract and retain the best people, so I think it would be unwise for me to respond at this stage to the idea that there should be an upfront payment for joining the forces.

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Not addressed: The questioner's proposal was not directly addressed; instead, a general response about attraction and retention policies was given.

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