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Defence Procurement System

Monday 15 May 2023 · 4 questions

Summarised by AI from the official record, so it can contain mistakes.

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Answered 1 Partly answered 2 Not answered 0

Key points

  • Minister states the Department of Defence has a proven ability to deliver on procurement programmes that are mostly on or ahead of schedule and budget.
  • Minister reassures that there will be no loss of capability despite concerns about the C-130J being phased out.
  • Minister emphasizes continuity and competence, highlighting the increased proportion of MOD spending with small and medium-sized enterprises.

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Questions & Answers

Q1 Dan Jarvis Lab Barnsley North
Defence
Context

No specific event or statistic mentioned, but context suggests ongoing concerns about the efficiency and outcomes of procurement processes.

Question

What recent assessment he has made of the effectiveness of his Department's defence procurement system. The questioner asks for a recent evaluation regarding how well the department is performing in terms of procuring necessary military equipment and services.

Answer from James Cartlidge

We are driving the delivery of capability to the frontline. When requirements, budget and risk are clear, we have proven our ability to deliver. The majority of our programmes are on or ahead of time and budget. The Ministry of Defence has set out an affordable 10-year equipment plan to ensure that our armed forces are being given what they need, while living within our means.

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Q2 Dan Jarvis Lab Barnsley North
Defence
Context

The MP references media reports suggesting that the UK may face a loss of operational capability when the C-130J is cut next month, despite previous assurances from the government.

Question

I heard what the Secretary of State said about Atlas. He has previously given me a commitment that there will be no loss of capability, but today Deborah Haynes at Sky News is reporting that the UK will be left dangerously exposed when the C-130J is cut next month. That comes amid concerns that its successor, the Atlas A400M, has yet to be cleared to perform the niche but mission-critical functions of the C-130J. Will the Minister give an absolute assurance that our defence procurement system will ensure no loss of operational capability?

Answer from James Cartlidge

I am more than happy to give the hon. Gentleman that assurance. There is a great deal of affection for the Hercules, but to go back to what the Secretary of State said about the recent performance in the important operation in Sudan, the largest number of evacuees that the Hercules carried out from Sudan was 143. The largest number in an A400M was about 100 more than that.

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Not addressed: The specific concern about loss of operational capability due to C-130J cuts is not directly addressed with a commitment or assurance beyond the comparison of evacuation numbers.

How: Comparison

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Q3 Dave Doogan SNP Angus and Perthshire Glens
Defence
Context

The MP questions the competence of the new Minister given recent changes, emphasizing the importance of continuity for effective procurement.

Question

Continuity, focus and a relentless grip on detail are the hallmarks of a competent defence procurement Minister. In less than a year, we are on our fourth defence procurement Minister, so we do not have the continuity bit nailed down. Will the new Minister reassure the House of his competence by enlightening us of the most challenging defence procurement issue on his desk this week?

Answer from James Cartlidge

I look to my left and my right and I see continuity. I am grateful to follow in the steps of my right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Cheltenham (Alex Chalk), now Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice, who did a sterling job. To give one example, the hon. Member for Llanelli (Dame Nia Griffith) mentioned the issue of replenishment. I recently had the privilege of visiting British troops training Ukrainian forces, as referred to by the Chair of the Select Committee, my right hon. Friend the Member for Bournemouth East (Mr Ellwood). We have to remember, it is not just that we are training 15,000 personnel to go back out to Ukraine and defend their homeland; every time they go we are giving them high-quality kit. There are lessons to learn from what has happened in Ukraine, but we should be incredibly proud of that effort. We have procured at pace, gifted in kind and ensured that Ukraine has been able to sustain its fight to this day.

Not addressed: The specific question about the minister's competence is not addressed directly; instead, the minister speaks about broader defence issues and training efforts.

How: Change Of Subject

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Q4 Dave Doogan SNP Angus and Perthshire Glens
Ukraine Scotland Brexit Business & Trade
Context

The MP questions the MOD's lack of attendance at a public sector procurement event in Edinburgh, suggesting it reflects poorly on their commitment to supporting small businesses.

Question

Well, that's crystal clear. One of the things the Minister said when talking about Ukraine, in answer to my question about procurement, was about replenishment. He will know, even in his short tenure in the job, that small and medium-sized enterprises are the lifeblood of any military-industrial complex. Can he explain why, in answer to my parliamentary question a couple of weeks ago asking if the Ministry of Defence would attend a public sector meet-the-buyer event in Edinburgh, which is attended by other UK Government Departments, the MOD—a £50 billion-resourced organisation—cited a lack of resource as the reason it could not attend? Is that a special kind of indifference that is reserved for Scotland?

Answer from James Cartlidge

Of course not. I am happy to look into that. I want to assure the hon. Gentleman that the latest figures show that the proportion that the MOD spends with SMEs has increased from 19.3% in 2018-19 to 23% in 2021. I ran an SME before coming to this place—it was not a defence SME but I know how important they are. They give us creativity and innovation, and I want to work with them and the primes in delivering the British defence industry, because we see that as a key part of our own defence capability.

Partly answered

Not addressed: The question about non-attendance at Edinburgh's event is not directly addressed; instead, the minister focuses on overall procurement trends with SMEs.

How: Provisional Response

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