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Rail Fare Evasion

Thursday 19 January 2023 · 3 questions

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Answered 2 Partly answered 1 Not answered 0

Key points

  • Government are increasing National Rail penalty fares to 100 plus the price of the single fare to the intended destination.
  • Ticketless travel is estimated to cost the network and taxpayers 240 million per year.
  • Ministers are willing to meet and discuss rolling out schemes to reduce fare evasion in England.

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Questions & Answers

Q1 Amanda Milling Con
Transport
Context

There have been persistent problems on the Chase line with passengers dodging fares, and a recent increase in National Rail penalty fares is meant to act as a deterrent.

Question

What steps he is taking to reduce rail fare evasion. From 23 January, the Government are increasing National Rail penalty fares for the first time since 2005. The penalty will change to £100, plus the price of the single fare to the intended destination, to act as a greater deterrent and to reduce fare evasion on the network.

Answer from Huw Merriman

I thank my right hon. Friend for raising the important issue of ensuring that resource is available to check tickets on lines such as the Chase line. Ticketless travel is currently costing the network, and, indeed, the taxpayer nationally, an estimated £240 million per year. Back in December 2016, my right hon. Friend joined the then London Midland revenue protection team. She later told this House: “The £20 penalty is insufficient to deter fare dodging.”—[Official Report, 12 January 2017; Vol. 447, c. 619.] She went on to ask for a review of penalty fares so that they would become an effective deterrent. She has won that campaign, and I thank her for it. There are nine new revenue protection security managers within the West Midlands Railway business. They are in training, ready to be deployed on the Chase line and throughout the midlands.

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Q2 Amanda Milling Con
Crime & Law Enforcement Transport
Context

There have been persistent problems on the Chase line with passengers dodging fares, and a recent increase in National Rail penalty fares is meant to act as a deterrent.

Question

There have been persistent problems on the Chase line with passengers dodging fares, so I welcome the increase in the penalty for those caught travelling without a valid ticket, but if the system is to be effective it is essential for there to be enough revenue protection officers to catch offenders. What are the Government doing to ensure that there are enough inspectors on lines such as the Chase line to check passengers' tickets?

Answer from Huw Merriman

I thank my right hon. Friend for raising the important issue of ensuring that resource is available to check tickets on lines such as the Chase line. Ticketless travel is currently costing the network, and, indeed, the taxpayer nationally, an estimated £240 million per year. Back in December 2016, my right hon. Friend joined the then London Midland revenue protection team. She later told this House: “The £20 penalty is insufficient to deter fare dodging.”—[Official Report, 12 January 2017; Vol. 447, c. 619.] She went on to ask for a review of penalty fares so that they would become an effective deterrent. She has won that campaign, and I thank her for it. There are nine new revenue protection security managers within the West Midlands Railway business. They are in training, ready to be deployed on the Chase line and throughout the midlands.

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Q3 Margaret Ferrier SNP
Transport
Context

Peak time rail fares on specific routes in Scotland are being disbanded to ease commuting costs and encourage use of services, which could potentially reduce fare evasion.

Question

In Scotland, peak time rail fares on specific routes are being disbanded in 2023 to ease commuting costs and encourage use of services. Have Ministers discussed rolling out a similar scheme with operators in England, as increased affordability could reduce fare evasion?

Answer from Huw Merriman

I have a real passion for reducing fare evasion. It is important that we learn from all parts of the United Kingdom how we can do this. At a time when we are experiencing issues with financing, it is vital that we do everything we can to ensure that passengers pay their way, so I am happy to meet the hon. Lady to share those ideas. If they are good ideas, I would like to see them rolled out.

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Not addressed: Specific implementation details or commitment to a similar scheme in England was not provided

How: At A Time When We Are Experiencing Issues With Financing

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