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BBC
12 May 2016
Lead MP
John Whittingdale
Debate Type
General Debate
Tags
EmploymentCulture, Media & Sport
Other Contributors: 78
At a Glance
John Whittingdale raised concerns about bbc in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.
How the Debate Unfolded
MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said:
Lead Contributor
Opened the debate
The Government are laying before Parliament a White Paper on the BBC charter review, aiming to ensure that the BBC continues to thrive in a rapidly changing media landscape. The proposal includes enhancing independence and accountability through governance reforms, promoting diversity, supporting creative industries, and maintaining funding stability through the licence fee system.
Maldon
The White Paper sets out plans to replace the current charter with a new framework that focuses on high-quality content, enhances independence and accountability in governance, supports creative industries while minimizing market impacts, increases transparency and efficiency, and ensures sustainable funding through a modern licence fee system. The BBC will be required to provide distinctive content, serve underserved audiences, and enhance diversity across its programming.
Maria Eagle
Lab
Liverpool Garston
Maria Eagle criticises the Secretary of State for briefing newspapers about his plans rather than addressing the House properly. She notes that most of his proposals have been watered down or delayed, indicating a lack of influence and clout. She also points out his hostility towards the BBC and describes his views as being out of step with licence fee payers who value and support it. Eagle welcomes the 11-year charter but expresses concern over the break clause which could reduce its stability to five and a half years. She raises issues regarding governance, financial independence, diversity, mission statement changes, investment impact on media markets, Ofcom's regulatory role, National Audit Office safeguards, and the necessity for substantive motions enabling Members of both Houses to express their views by way of a vote.
The Speaker comments on the lengthy opening exchanges between the Secretary of State and the shadow Secretary of State, suggesting brevity to other Members.
Questions whether the BBC charter will include a requirement that the BBC recognises England as a nation.
Maldon
Responds to John Redwood's question, affirming the BBC’s duty to serve all nations including England and highlights how four of the six appointees appointed by the Government under the public appointments process will represent one of the nations.
Supports the White Paper's proposals for breaking the link between the electoral cycle and the length of the charter, abolishing the BBC Trust and replacing it with a unitary board. He also welcomes ongoing commitment to Gaelic-language broadcasting and calls for meaningful editorial and financial control in Scotland.
Maldon
Clarifies points raised by John Nicolson, such as the intention not to prevent scheduling popular programmes against ITV’s, confirming salary publication for talent earning more than £450,000, and detailing plans for representation of Scotland within the board.
Kenneth Clarke
Con
Rushcliffe
Expressed concern over rumours that had caused alarm before the statement, questioning where such misinformation originated. He also mentioned sympathy for Maria Eagle due to confusion surrounding her expected contributions.
Frank Field
Labour Co-op
Birkenhead
Acknowledged the aspects of the statement promoting a common cultural identity but questioned the governance of the board, seeking clarification on the Government's membership and its role in determining board size.
Jesse Norman
Con
Hereford and South Herefordshire
Congratulated the Secretary of State for the White Paper and welcomed the recognition of BBC’s achievements, public service ethos, and potential as a global broadcaster. He asked about enforcement mechanisms regarding diversity in representation.
Barry Sheerman
Lab
Huddersfield
Critiqued the statement heavily, suggesting that the British people would not be fooled by the words used today and expressed concern over the implications for BBC's independence and quality under the new proposals.
Helen Grant
Con
Maidstone and The Weald
Welcomed the enshrinement of diversity in the charter, arguing that attracting diverse talent would improve the content and ratings of BBC offerings. She highlighted research showing a need for improved representation among black, Asian and minority ethnic audiences.
Ian Lucas
Lab
Wrexham
Asked the Secretary of State to accept past actions as wrong and to give assurances that the budget would not be raided again. He argued that commitment to BBC’s independence should be judged by such actions rather than mere words.
Edward Leigh
Con
Gainsborough
Emphasised the importance of accountability for public spending and supported the involvement of the National Audit Office in ensuring value for money from the BBC’s licence fee revenues.
Debbie Abrahams
Lab
Oldham East and Saddleworth
Welcomed the development of a new diversity strategy but sought clarity on how this would relate to the representation of sick and disabled people within the workforce and that of contractors.
Crispin Blunt
Con
Twickenham
Welcomes the restatement of financial protection for the BBC World Service and questions how fast the new unitary board should address the weakness of BBC World News on television.
Maldon
Affirms the admiration for the BBC World Service globally, acknowledges that BBC global news is a separate commercial subsidiary which loses money and needs review. Confirms there will be clear processes for appointing the board, setting the licence fee, and ensuring public voice involvement.
Tom Brake
Lib Dem
Carshalton and Wallington
Expresses relief at the Secretary of State's hands-off approach towards the BBC but asks for clarity on processes for appointing the board, setting the licence fee, public voice involvement, and the nature of the mid-term review.
Damian Green
Con
Ashford
Congratulates the Secretary of State on achieving a system of outside regulation that maintains accountability without damaging the BBC's role. Inquires about National Audit Office’s scope in auditing BBC’s commercial operations.
Arfon
Asks for more information on how the Secretary of State will ensure that the BBC becomes more accountable to the devolved nations, specifically Wales.
Peter Lilley
Con
Hitchin and Welwyn Hatfield
Expresses filial affection for the BBC but criticises its lack of impartiality and diversity. Calls on the Secretary of State to encourage the inclusion of conservative views at the BBC.
John Bercow
Con
Buckingham
Remarks on Peter Lilley's filial affection towards the BBC, not being reciprocated by the institution.
David Lammy
Lab
Tottenham
Welcomes making diversity a public purpose and questions whether funds will be allocated appropriately to ensure delivery of diversity both on and off screen.
Peter Bottomley
Con
Worthing West
Supports the idea of inclusiveness in relation to diversity. Raises concerns about digital radio coverage gaps, questions why the licence fee is seen as a tax rather than a separate fee, and asks for clarification on certain terms used in the White Paper.
Maldon
Acknowledged the progress on digital audio broadcasting and emphasised the BBC's role. Recognised the licence fee as a tax. Discussed the Window of Creative Competition, proposing to increase it from 25% to 75%.
Deidre Brock
11:36:00
Asked for assurances on further decentralisation and improvement in commissioning opportunities for Scotland.
Maldon
Acknowledged that BBC quotas are a minimum requirement, committing to increasing the proportion of network production expenditure in each nation proportional to their population. Encouraged the BBC to exceed these minimums.
Peter Heaton-Jones
11:36:00
Welcomed the White Paper and expressed concern about potential cuts to local radio, praising its value in the community.
Maldon
Acknowledged the importance of local radio as a public service and encouraged efficiency to maintain funding for it.
Ruth Cadbury
Lab
Brentford and Isleworth
Welcomed aspects of the statement but emphasised the need for diversity in all areas including gender, sexual orientation, disability, faith, and social class.
Maldon
Agreed with the importance of diversity and stated that it is up to the BBC to deliver its public purpose while being held accountable by Ofcom.
Victoria Atkins
Con
Louth and Horncastle
Asked about the impact of the new charter on local newspapers, especially in light of increasing online news consumption.
Maldon
Discussed an agreement between the BBC and local press to fund a reporting service covering local authorities, employing 150 journalists from qualifying organisations to support local newspapers.
Liz McInnes
11:36:00
Asked if students without televisions should be exempted from paying the licence fee due to iPlayer usage.
Maldon
Stressed that those who enjoy public service television must pay for it, and confirmed plans to close the iPlayer loophole.
John Baron
11:36:00
Asked about ensuring fairness in BBC coverage of the EU referendum campaign due to significant EU funding received by the BBC.
Maldon
Emphasised impartiality as a requirement for all broadcasters, including commercial ones, and mentioned fast-track systems for resolving complaints of bias during contentious issues like EU membership.
Diana R. Johnson
Lab
Kingston upon Hull North and Cottingham
Asked about the director-general's comments regarding the appointments proposals for the new unitary board, questioning their current adequacy.
Maldon
Acknowledged ongoing discussions with the BBC but stated that the proposed board structure aligns with Sir David Clementi's recommendations and preserves editorial independence.
Andrew Bingham
11:36:00
Welcomed comments on need for distinctiveness to enhance both BBC and commercial radio sectors, addressing concerns about mimicry of commercial stations by BBC ones.
Maldon
Confirmed the requirement for distinctiveness in BBC services applies to radio as well, allowing independent production sector opportunities and stressing oversight by Ofcom.
Jack Dromey
Lab
Birmingham, Northfield
Welcomed the BBC’s investment in Birmingham and expressed concern over the independence of the BBC.
Maldon
Confirmed support for additional BBC investment in Birmingham, acknowledged concerns about editorial integrity, assured online distinctiveness test compliance, reaffirmed editorial independence pre-transmission, and responded to concerns over Government influence on the BBC unitary board.
Matt Warman
Con
Asked for assurance that the distinctiveness test will apply online as well as in traditional media formats.
Stella Creasy
Lab Co-op
Walthamstow
Pressed the Secretary of State on protecting BBC staff from political interference and asked about accountability measures for Government appointees on the unitary board.
Chloe Smith
Con
Norwich North
Welcomed financial certainty, editorial independence, and modernisation measures set out in the White Paper. Asked for an estimate of job numbers linked to increased purchasing of independent content by the BBC.
Rupa Huq
Lab
Ealing Central and Acton
Asked for a commitment to exempt children’s programming from iPlayer or on-demand charges.
Mims Davies
Con
East Grinstead and Uckfield
Welcomed the White Paper and suggested considering a reduced licence fee for those who listen only to BBC radio content.
Alex Chalk
Con
Cheltenham
Asked if local democracy support would be at the expense of independent local media outlets. Welcomed clarity on BBC employment practices and funding for journalists.
Alberto Costa
Con
South Leicestershire
Expressed concern about unintended consequences of diversity measures, particularly in relation to Scotland and England.
Kevin Foster
Con
Torbay
Asked what the White Paper contains to help boost creative industries like those seen in “Fawlty Towers.”
Huw Merriman
Con
Welcomed the White Paper and congratulated the Secretary of State. Asked for more detail about the health check on the BBC's future funding issues, commercial income, and activities while noting that fundamental mission, purposes, and licence fee model cannot be changed.
Maldon
Reassured the BBC about no intention of reopening fundamental decisions for the next charter period. Emphasised it is a health check to ensure reforms work as intended and that technology changes are accounted for.
Nigel Huddleston
Con
Droitwich and Evesham
Asked if the Secretary of State received an apology or support from those who had been unkind previously, given the common sense of the White Paper.
Maldon
Acknowledged his hon. Friend's support and noted that some have only now realised Government intentions after relying on hysterical media reports; hopes they will welcome proposals.
Henry Smith
Con
Welcomed the future publication of significant talent salaries, highlighting the disparity between local radio expenditure and some high remuneration packages.
Maldon
Agreed with his hon. Friend about the disparity in BBC's financial allocations; emphasised that the public have a right to know details of large remuneration packages.
Tom Pursglove
Con
Asked when more information would be available regarding diversifying the BBC’s revenue streams, particularly by providing new services and reaching viewers outside this country.
Maldon
Acknowledged his hon. Friend's interest; mentioned that UK citizens should have access to content via iPlayer even when abroad; noted piracy as a concern, urging legal access and payment for content.
Jeremy Lefroy
Con
Welcomed strong support for the World Service and asked if he is confident that it sufficiently embraces new platforms for broadcasting around the world.
Maldon
Agreed with his hon. Friend's concern, encouraging the BBC to use every means of delivery to reach audiences in places lacking impartial and objective news sources.
Martin Vickers
Con
Brigg and Immingham
Welcomed statement about no more radical proposals included; mentioned local TV role, specifically for Estuary TV serving his constituency well; asked if there are plans to support BBC in local TV stations.
Maldon
Noted that a fund was available to support local television but was meant to be for a limited period, and there are no plans beyond existing support given to local television.
David Nuttall
Con
Expressed hope that successful introduction of additional subscription services by the BBC will encourage it to move away from the current outdated financing model.
Maldon
Acknowledged the changing world may lead to a time when existing funding models become harder to sustain; mentioned that proposals by the BBC are set up for pilots and assessment.
Welcomed statement, especially part about enhancing local output; praised local radio service provided in Northamptonshire; asked how new royal charter will enhance these services.
Maldon
Acknowledged admiration for local radio and local services; noted Ofcom will produce service licences to make clear the expectations on BBC in meeting requirements for nations and regions.
Maggie Throup
Lab
Welcomed requirement for more productions to be tendered, hoping it helps right an historic imbalance across east midlands; believes this will give constituents more value for their licence fee and help local creative industries.
Maldon
Agreed with his hon. Friend's points about independent production companies in every part of UK, including the east midlands; opening up schedule for competition will support these companies and give higher-quality programmes to viewers.
Karl Turner
Lab
Kingston upon Hull East
Raises a point of order regarding the Leader of the House's defamatory statement about the Labour PCC candidate in Humberside, criticising the lack of response and the manner of addressing such matters.
Responds to Karl Turner's point of order by stating that while he understands the concern over incorrect personal attacks, it is not within his purview to stop them. He emphasises that Members must take responsibility for their words and use parliamentary privilege with care.
David Davis
Con
Goole and Pocklington
Raises a similar point of order concerning the Prime Minister's allegation about Mr Suliman Gani, expressing concern over the reputational implications and seeking guidance on protecting individuals from such serious calumny.
Responds to David Davis by noting that the Prime Minister has since corrected his statement. He reiterates that Members are responsible for their statements and should reflect carefully before criticising individuals, though he also notes that an apology is appreciated in such cases.
Diana R. Johnson
Lab
Kingston upon Hull North and Cottingham
Asks about the delay in the Government's promised statement on Syria, seeking guidance on when the House can expect this important update.
Explains that due to the Queen’s Speech debate, a statement cannot be made for at least a week and possibly longer. He emphasises the need for respect for the rights of the House and its legitimate expectations on important matters.
Tom Brake
Lib Dem
Dartford
Raises further points about the delays in the Syrian quarterly statements, suggesting alternative mechanisms like urgent questions to brief the House as soon as possible.
John Bercow
Con
London, Yardley
Mr. Bercow responds to the right hon. Gentleman's irritation regarding the timing of a statement, clarifying that he heard the hon. Friend the Member for Westmorland and Lonsdale about 10 minutes into injury time. He does not offer the prospect of a statement next Wednesday due to practicality concerns but acknowledges the Government will be sensitive to the matter's urgency. He emphasises the importance of honouring commitments made.
Chris Grayling
Con
Aylesbury
Mr. Grayling indicated dissent without providing further comments or elaboration.
Government Response
Reaffirms that BBC World Service is admired globally but acknowledges global news's commercial loss. Confirms future appointments will be made through public process involving independent assessment, setting the licence fee process to be more transparent, and establishing mechanisms for public opinion on all operations. Emphasises no intention of revisiting charter unless necessary. Responded to multiple queries regarding BBC investment, editorial independence, accountability of Government appointees, and potential job creation through increased purchasing of independent content. Reassured that there is no intention of reopening fundamental decisions for the next charter period. The health check ensures reforms work as intended and technology changes are accounted for.
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