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Public Health: Coronavirus Regulations
13 October 2020
Lead MP
Matthew Hancock
Debate Type
General Debate
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NHS
Other Contributors: 66
At a Glance
Matthew Hancock raised concerns about public health: coronavirus regulations in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.
How the Debate Unfolded
MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said:
Lead Contributor
Opened the debate
Moves to approve a series of regulations related to public health measures against Coronavirus, including local alert levels, collection of contact details, restrictions on hospitality undertakings, and other obligations under the Health Protection (Coronavirus) Regulations.
Eleanor Laing
Con
Bracknell
Announces that multiple motions related to public health measures against Coronavirus will be debated together but with separate questions on each motion.
Angela Eagle
Lab
Wallasey
Asks the Secretary of State if there are plans to reopen Nightingale hospitals in Liverpool city region to serve that area, following its placement in tier 3.
Follows up on Angela Eagle's intervention by asking for a cautious approach regarding vaccine roll-out and potential challenges.
Craig Whittaker
Con
Halifax
Questions the Secretary of State about measures to prevent NHS from being overwhelmed in Calderdale, given recent spikes in hospitalisations due to coronavirus.
Inquires how long scientists think lockdowns will be necessary and asks for an exit plan.
Munira Wilson
Lib Dem
Twickenham
Calls on the Secretary of State to acknowledge that an effective system of testing, tracing, and isolating would prevent current measures from being needed.
Dan Carden
Lab
Liverpool Walton
Asks whether SAGE recommended a circuit breaker lockdown three weeks ago; requests publication of full scientific evidence supporting this measure.
Acknowledges growth in testing but asks the Secretary of State to look at contact tracing efforts in all areas, not just high-risk ones.
Andrew Mitchell
Con
Sutton Coldfield
Requests reassurance that decisions are based on medical need rather than neatness and suggests listening carefully to local authorities like the West Midlands Mayor.
Kevin Hollinrake
Con
Thirsk and Malton
Asks whether tiering can be done by district within counties given significant variations in transmission rates across districts.
Luke Evans
Con
Hinckley and Bosworth
Proposes a Government postcode checker to help people understand their tier status.
Requests that measures already taken by local authorities are given time to take effect before moving areas between tiers.
Questions whether the positive effects of pub closure regulations outweigh negative impacts such as congregation on public transport and in streets.
Jon Ashworth
Lab
Leicester South
Ashworth underlined that hospital admissions are rising, with over 3,600 patients in hospitals yesterday. He warned about the critical situation and urged for stringent measures to protect the NHS as winter approaches. He also criticised the Government's handling of testing capacity when schools reopened and advocated for routine testing of frontline NHS staff.
Andrew Murrison
Con
South West Wiltshire
Supports the Government with a heavy heart, expresses concerns about groupthink and insufficient preparation for dealing with infectious diseases. Suggests reviewing past public health measures like Public Health England. Warns of potential overreach in interventions that could lead to more deaths from covid and other common diseases.
Derek Twigg
Lab
Widnes and Halewood
Questions the balance of rules introduced, criticises the bewildering changes that have led to public confusion. Expresses concerns about the impact on civil liberties and businesses. Points out the age distribution of hospital admissions does not differ from early in the pandemic. Criticises closure measures for lack of clarity and evidence.
Kieran Mullan
Con
Bexhill and Battle
Argues there is no viable alternative to lockdown measures as it would put millions at risk, especially the elderly who are disproportionately affected by severe cases. Emphasises the importance of keeping virus levels low through collective effort to protect vulnerable populations.
Redwood advocates for a strategy focused on public persuasion rather than enforcement, given that there are not enough police forces to enforce rules strictly. He also urges the government to prepare for plan B in case of no vaccine and to provide certainty to businesses about how long controls must last.
Debbie Abrahams
Lab
Oldham East and Saddleworth
Abrahams, a former public health consultant, argues that the new tier system will not work due to seeding by asymptomatic carriers. She emphasises the need for national measures, improved test and trace programme, resource transfer to local authorities, flu vaccines, regular testing regimes, community engagement, monitoring and enforcement capacity.
Luke Evans
Con
Hinckley and Bosworth
Evans thanks those who adhered to rules in his constituency. He supports the tier-based system for clarity and accountability but urges government to provide certainty for sectors such as events, travel industry, etc., through guided points and timetables.
Karen Bradley
Con
Staffordshire Moorlands
Welcomes tier system granularity, pays tribute to local efforts, and suggests more flexibility in hospitality rules considering social distancing. Questions inconsistencies across regions like Wales and Northern Ireland. Advocates for remote voting to ensure safety.
Critiques the false dichotomy between hospitality and economy, highlighting job losses and business closures due to restrictions. Calls for a more evidence-based approach rather than knee-jerk measures without cost-benefit analysis. Proposes giving local councils rapid action powers instead of blanket closures.
Supports the Government's good faith in bringing matters to the House and acknowledges the difficult balance between virus control, healthcare provision, and normal life preservation. Advocates for public responsibility, suggesting exemptions for young children from the rule of six and softening curfew measures.
Mark Harper
Con
Farnborough
Mr. Harper defended the government's plan as sound but suggested that it needs to be better executed, particularly in terms of testing and tracing. He argued for a greater reliance on local public health teams, highlighting their effectiveness compared to centralised efforts.
Daisy Cooper
Lib Dem
St Albans
Ms. Cooper called for the delegation of test, trace and isolate measures to directors of public health and urged for better financial support for businesses impacted by restrictions. She also criticised the introduction of a curfew policy without proper scientific backing or consultation with relevant groups.
Craig Whittaker
Con
Calderdale and Hilldale
As a Conservative, imposing state control over people’s lives is uncomfortable but necessary due to significant non-compliance with guidelines. Local track and trace systems have identified around 90% of contacts, highlighting issues such as self-isolation violations, household mixing despite restrictions, and pubs filled with mixed households seated together. There are currently 800 positive cases in the last two weeks, 43 people in hospital, six in ICUs, and 12 deaths since October 1st. The tiered system is supported for controlling the virus.
Nadia Whittome
Lab
Nottingham East
The Government's delay and lack of clear communication during an increase in infections led to avoidable escalation. Criticises failures like delayed test and trace implementation, prioritising economy over lives, and ineffective measures. Advocates for a serious economic package, eviction ban extension, improvement of statutory sick pay, and adherence to scientific advice on banning household mixing and closing pubs.
Stephen Hammond
Con
Wimbledon
Welcomes clarity in the statutory instruments but expresses concern about the 10 o'clock curfew's necessity. Proposes a restriction on alcohol purchase times to mitigate risks associated with late-night movement from secure to less-secure environments. Questions the expiry date of six months for certain measures and asks for regular reviews. Emphasises the need for proportionate restrictions in London, advocating for borough-by-borough or ward-by-ward application.
Angela Eagle
Lab
Wallasey
Believes debates in Parliament are essential to persuade public support and challenge Government decisions. Criticises the complexity of rules post-Dominic Cummings incident and calls for transparency and honesty from the Government. Supports local lockdowns but criticises inadequate furlough-lite measures, advocating for more generous support for hospitality and jobs.
Jim Shannon
DUP
Strangford
Shannon supports the Prime Minister, Minister and Government in their efforts to maintain services during the pandemic. He highlights the devastating impact of the virus on different groups such as those with cancer or Alzheimer's disease. He mentions that 3 million people are waiting for appointments and assessments due to hospital closures related to testing. Shannon also notes that dementia patients make up a quarter of all coronavirus deaths between March and June, and emphasises the importance of maintaining quality of life alongside keeping people alive.
Jenkyns acknowledges the high number of deaths caused by COVID-19 in the UK. She praises the Chancellor's economic measures as among the most generous in Europe, aimed at saving lives without compromising livelihoods. She notes that different parts of the country have varying infection rates and thus require tailored approaches such as tier systems to avoid shutting down entire regions.
Hill criticises the lack of consultation with local authorities in Hartlepool during the imposition of lockdown measures. He requests an explanation from the Government regarding why Hartlepool was not included in a conference call about the new measures for the north-east of England. He emphasises the need for appropriate resources to support local challenges and calls for a strategy to end lockdown, suggesting that test and trace should be devolved to local environmental health teams.
Baynes supports the Government's proposed measures as reasonable and proportionate. He specifically approves of the 10 pm closing time for hospitality businesses as part of a balanced approach against virus spread while considering civil liberties. He highlights the ongoing review process based on data and evidence to refine measures, and commends the Chancellor’s financial support announcements for affected sectors.
Naseem Shah
Lab
Bradford West
My constituency has been under tier 2 restrictions for 75 days and may soon be entering the highest tier. Child poverty in Bradford West was at 50.9% in 2017-18, with unemployment being the seventh highest nationally. Workers on minimum wage will have to live off £5.84 if their places of work close due to restrictions. I urge the Minister to consider additional funding support for constituencies like mine which face rising rates of child deprivation.
Lockdowns do work to flatten the curve, but they ignore corollary effects on health and wellbeing. The Government’s tiered system has clarity but can move areas between tiers without parliamentary approval. Concerns remain about the rule of six and the 10 pm curfew, which could lead to overcrowded public transport after closing times.
Warrington North
Local businesses in Warrington would be better off under tier 3 restrictions due to inadequate financial support for tier 2. The hospitality industry lost up to 90% of its business after the introduction of the ban on households mixing indoors and a 10 pm curfew, pushing families into poverty. Increased support is needed to deal with mental health impacts and a clear explanation of thresholds Warrington needs to meet to move out of tier 2.
Nusrat Ghani
Con
Sussex Weald
Supports the Government's efforts but raises concerns about long-term management without restrictive measures, delays in appointments due to NHS focusing on covid-19, slow turnaround times for tests in care homes and schools, and the 10 pm curfew which has no scientific basis according to SAGE scientists.
Imran Ahmad Khan
Con
Wakefield
Mr. Khan argues against the imposition of further measures in Wakefield, stating that they will cripple the economic recovery and harm businesses. He mentions a local brewery employing nearly 400 people facing closure due to new restrictions. Mr. Khan asserts that there is no silver bullet for tackling the virus and highlights the inconsistency between Wakefield's lower infection rate compared to neighbouring areas yet being placed in stricter measures.
Naseem Shah
Lab
Bradford West
Intervenes to thank local health officials for their expertise, suggesting that a local approach is better than a national 'one size fits all' solution.
Karin Smyth
Lab
Bristol South
Ms. Smyth highlights the importance of maintaining good relationships with local health systems to sustain low transmission rates in Bristol, which remains in tier 1. She criticises the current isolation support as woeful and demands better incentives for those isolating or shielding. Ms. Smyth also points out that the test and trace system is not working effectively and needs to be improved through stronger local support.
Emma Hardy
Lab
Kingston upon Hull West and Haltemprice
The Government must recognise the public's growing frustration with the ongoing pandemic measures. Emma Hardy criticises the lack of clarity and support provided to businesses, particularly in the hospitality sector. She highlights a pub landlord's experience, emphasising the negative impact of stringent rules on business operations. The MP also calls for improved communication from the Government and stresses the importance of evidence-based decision-making. Additionally, she expresses concern over the loss of community life and the detrimental effect of austerity policies that have weakened local economies.
Sam Tarry
Lab
Ilford South
Sam Tarry discusses concerning infection rates in his constituency, Redbridge, which has one of the highest rates in London. He urges for more decisive action from the Government to prevent further escalation of cases, suggesting a circuit-breaker lockdown across London as an urgent measure. The MP also highlights economic support and racial disparities in the impact of the virus on communities.
Taiwo Owatemi
Lab
Coventry North West
Taiwo Owatemi criticises the lack of transparency in the Government's decision-making process regarding tier restrictions for Coventry. She calls for clearer communication and evidence-based decisions to maintain public confidence. The MP also raises concerns about winter preparedness, specifically addressing issues related to cancer treatment and hospital capacity.
Edward Leigh
Con
Gainsborough
Mr Deputy Speaker, you may well think that over 37 years, you have heard enough from me, so let me read out a letter that happened to arrive this morning from a constituent. It says: “I am 67 years old and for the first time in a long time I am scared... Another letter arrived this morning from a constituent telling me that they were having doorstep services very successfully over recent months attended by six to 16 people in place of going to church if that was not possible. That, of course, now breaks the rule of six, so they have had to stop.
Conor McGinn
Lab
St Helens North
McGinn expressed anxiety and confusion among his constituents due to the imposition of tier 3 restrictions. He criticised the government for failing to provide proper consultation with local leaders before implementing stringent measures, which has led to a lack of public trust.
Bury South
Wakeford disagreed with another lockdown but supported the tiered approach. He urged Ministers to follow scientific advice and remove the 10 pm curfew as it was causing harm to businesses. He also called for clearer thresholds for moving between tiers and more support for struggling sectors.
Claudia Webbe
Lab
Leicester East
The Government have failed to adequately protect communities due to a series of poor decisions from herd immunity to equipment shortages, leading Leicester East to be under restrictive measures for over 100 days. The test and trace programme has been wasteful, prioritising private corporations over community protection. The local public health-led system in Leicester is more successful than the privatised approach.
Huw Merriman
Con
Bexhill and Battle
Concerns about long-term economic impact and social cohesion due to strict measures, urging the Government to ensure evidence-based restrictions and temporary lockdowns as a vaccine is in sight. Emphasises the need for sustainable solutions that balance health protection with economic stability.
Mike Amesbury
Lab
Wallasey
The Government's serial incompetence has led to the highest excess death rate and worst recession in Europe. Local authorities should be resourced properly, and a national system for test, track, and isolate must be implemented based on evidence.
Thomas Tugendhat
Con
Tonbridge
Urges the Government to think hard about the long-term decisions they are making in terms of health, mental health, wellbeing, economic impact, and predictability. Consistency is crucial for people to plan their lives over several years amid uncertainties about a vaccine.
Munira Wilson
Lib Dem
Twickenham
Stressed the importance of public trust and a functioning test, trace and isolate system in tackling the virus. Criticised the government for not following SAGE recommendations and failing to explain their decisions adequately. Cited concerns about binge drinking due to curfews and highlighted issues with data accuracy in testing.
Complimented Munira Wilson for withdrawing her remark, showing a positive attitude towards parliamentary decorum.
Richard Graham
Con
Gloucester
Called for better communication and faster testing services to enable universities, colleges, and schools to function well. Urged the government to expedite measures like Heathrow's 20-minute test and reconsider curfew times while emphasising the need for local delegation and information sharing.
Steve McCabe
Lab
Birmingham Selly Oak
Expressed scepticism about decisions affecting west midlands council leaders. Highlighted issues with testing efficiency and privacy concerns, including a constituent receiving someone else's test results via text message. Questioned the government's optimism about easing restrictions by Christmas.
Danny Kruger
Reform
East Wiltshire
Praised Ministers for their efforts in managing the pandemic but appealed for a response that trusts local communities and professionals rather than relying solely on centralised government and big business solutions. Emphasised the importance of civil society and local governance.
Mike Wood
Con
Kingswinford and South Staffordshire
Acknowledged the difficulty in balancing lives and livelihoods during a pandemic, thanking Ministers for their openness with evidence. Highlighted the need to clarify the basis of decisions taken regarding restrictions on the hospitality sector and shared concerns about the impact of measures on small businesses.
Sara Britcliffe
Lab
Hyndburn
Ms Britcliffe highlighted the difficulties faced by her community in Hyndburn and Haslingden due to high infection rates, with over 300 cases per 100,000 people. She expressed concerns about the strain on ICU beds and the impact of restrictions on local pubs and hospitality businesses. She urged Health Ministers to engage more closely with local leaders and advocated for a tiered financial support system that aligns with the tiered approach to restrictions.
Burnley
Mr Higginbotham welcomed the simplification of messaging provided by the tiered system but expressed concern about the four-week review period, suggesting it could be too long for some areas. He emphasised the importance of targeted restrictions and the need to balance sacrifice with hope. He also highlighted the importance of rapid testing in facilitating social interactions while controlling the virus's spread.
Chris Loder
Con
West Dorset
Mr Loder expressed concern about the 10 pm curfew imposed on pubs, arguing that it is overly restrictive for rural areas like West Dorset. He pointed out the low number of cases in his constituency and urged the Government to reconsider the one-size-fits-all approach to ensure it does not harm local economies.
Bob Seely
Con
Isle of Wight
Mr Seely called for a longer-term strategy rather than reactive measures. He advocated for clarity and balance in policy, emphasising the need to protect vulnerable populations while mitigating damage to other aspects of health and well-being. He also questioned the effectiveness of scare tactics and highlighted the lack of evidence supporting the closure of certain businesses like pubs and gyms.
Derek Thomas
Con
St Ives
The Government's curfew measures are inconsistent and counterproductive, as they allow supermarkets to sell cheap alcohol while pubs have to close early. The introduction of a minimum unit price for alcohol would help reduce the drinking culture and improve public health.
Marco Longhi
Con
Dudley South
The tiered system is a tailored response to local conditions, acknowledging that social contact poses a risk. Pubs should remain open where possible as they provide essential community services and support jobs directly and indirectly.
Paul Bristow
Con
Peterborough
A full national lockdown would be harsh and destructive, hitting poorer people disproportionately harder. Peterborough's efforts during the last lockdown demonstrate what can be achieved locally without a full lockdown. The 10 pm curfew is devastating for pubs and restaurants in Peterborough.
Richard Drax
Con
South Dorset
Disagreeing with the Government does not make one a heretic. Shutting down the country again could have significant economic, social, mental, financial, and health impacts. Even if a vaccine is found, the pandemic will still persist.
Dehenna Davison
Con
Barking
Public health must be prioritised but so too must the human stories behind the statistics. The hospitality sector needs additional support to protect jobs and local businesses integral to communities.
Edward Argar
Con
Melton and Syston
The MP acknowledges the complexity of the current situation regarding rising infection rates, hospitalisations, and deaths. He highlights the Government's efforts to create a simplified tiered framework for regulations to ensure clarity and compliance among individuals and businesses. Edward Argar emphasises the importance of protecting both public health and the economy while recognising the sacrifices made by people and supporting local authorities in implementing restrictions. The MP also reiterates that these measures are proportionate to current infection levels, keeping education settings open and businesses operational as much as possible.
Government Response
The Secretary of State for Health and Social Care outlines the Government's response to rising coronavirus transmission rates, introducing a tiered system to simplify regulations. He acknowledges the impact on local areas and businesses, particularly mentioning the 10 pm curfew, while emphasising the need for proportionate measures that balance public health with economic considerations.
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