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Northern Ireland
13 April 2021
Lead MP
Brandon Lewis
Debate Type
Ministerial Statement
Tags
BrexitDemocracy & Elections
Other Contributors: 34
At a Glance
Brandon Lewis raised concerns about northern ireland in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.
How the Debate Unfolded
MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said:
Government Statement
The Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, Brandon Lewis, made a statement updating the House on the recent disorder in Northern Ireland. The unrest has been centred around specific parts of Belfast and other towns such as Newtownabbey, Carrickfergus, Ballymena, Cookstown, Coleraine, and Londonderry. On 7 and 8 April, there was an escalation in violence at a peace wall area in west Belfast, leading to the injury of 88 police officers, 18 arrests, and 15 individuals being charged. The disorder has been linked to factors such as frustration over pandemic restrictions and economic uncertainty, perceptions of unequal enforcement of rules, political tensions, and concerns about the Northern Ireland protocol. Lewis highlighted the importance of dialogue, engagement, and democratic processes in resolving issues rather than violence. He acknowledged the Belfast/Good Friday agreement's role in peace and prosperity but noted ongoing challenges in reconciliation and mutual understanding between communities. The Government committed to supporting the Police Service of Northern Ireland and working with political parties to ensure public safety.
Louise Haigh
Lab
Sheffield Heeley
Question
Can the Secretary of State outline when the Prime Minister will travel to Belfast to convene talks and show leadership? What is his strategy for addressing loss of trust among Unionist communities and demonstrating that their grievances are being heard?
Minister reply
The minister did not provide specific details or timelines in his response, but emphasised the importance of dialogue, engagement, and supporting Northern Ireland's political leaders in resolving tensions. He indicated ongoing efforts to work closely with stakeholders, including the Irish Government, to address these issues.
Chris Bryant
Lab
Rhondda
Question
How can the British government assist Northern Ireland communities without a functioning executive and amid economic uncertainty due to Brexit?
Minister reply
The minister highlighted the Government's commitment to peace and prosperity in Northern Ireland, noting significant investments in various programmes. He emphasised that while policing and justice are devolved matters, the Government remains committed to supporting the Executive to ensure public safety and continuing to work with the Irish Government as co-guarantors of the Belfast/Good Friday agreement.
Louise Haigh
Lab
Sheffield Heeley
Question
I thank the Secretary of State for advance sight of his statement. Twenty-three years ago this week, the Belfast Good Friday agreement was signed...
Minister reply
I welcome the hon. Lady’s condemnation of the violence and her support for the PSNI and others... That is why I and the Prime Minister have been very clear about our determination to deal with those issues and to find a way forward.
Simon Hoare
Con
North Dorset
Question
I thank my right hon. Friend for his statement... We must focus on prosperity as much as peace.
Minister reply
My hon. Friend, who chairs the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee, makes a very good point... As we come out of covid, Northern Ireland’s economy can have a really bright future.
Richard Thomson
SNP
Paisley and Renfrewshire North
Question
Expresses condemnation of recent disturbances in Northern Ireland, emphasising the importance of law enforcement support, community leadership, and trust-building. Raises concerns about the symbolic impact of the current protocol and proposes realignment of sanitary and phytosanitary checks between Great Britain and Northern Ireland to ease border tensions.
Minister reply
Acknowledges the MP's points regarding the need for political and democratic resolution to disagreements over the protocol. Stresses that goods moving from Northern Ireland to Great Britain should be unfettered, while acknowledging the importance of respecting the Belfast Good Friday agreement.
Alun Cairns
Con
Vale of Clwyd
Question
Expresses support for efforts addressing disturbances in Northern Ireland and calls for pragmatic approaches from all parties involved. Questions whether the EU fully understood the implications when invoking Article 16.
Minister reply
Agrees on the need for a practical approach to address issues arising from the protocol's implementation, including supply line issues and identity concerns affecting Unionist and loyalist communities.
Lagan Valley
Question
Condemns recent violence and emphasises the importance of restoring trust in policing and justice to move forward with peace. Calls for addressing issues around the Northern Ireland protocol, including its impact on trade and community identity.
Minister reply
Acknowledges unilateral actions taken to ease protocol-related issues, highlighting ongoing work through established bodies like the Joint Committee to find a long-lasting solution. Emphasises the need for rebuilding trust between communities and law enforcement.
John Redwood
Con
Wokingham
Question
Supports condemnations of violence and questions whether goods should move as freely from Liverpool to Belfast as they do from Liverpool to Birmingham under UK authority control.
Minister reply
Agrees that the free movement of goods within the United Kingdom is necessary, underscoring ongoing efforts with EU partners to achieve this goal.
Alistair Carmichael
Lib Dem
Orkney and Shetland
Question
For years, the Government have been warned that peace in Northern Ireland was a delicate and fragile thing. The Prime Minister needs to step up to the plate like his predecessors did.
Minister reply
The Prime Minister has had consistent focus on delivering for people in Northern Ireland and is involved in conversations with Irish leaders. We must ensure all strands of the Good Friday agreement are applied.
Question
May I express condolences to Cheryl Gillan’s family? Women in Northern Ireland should have access to abortion without delay as agreed here over a year ago.
Minister reply
I assure that there will be no more delays. We must not be deterred from delivering on our promises despite recent violence.
Karin Smyth
Lab
Bristol South
Question
Has the Secretary of State had discussions about holding another British-Irish Intergovernmental Conference?
Minister reply
The BIIGC has met regularly since 2018. We will look for an appropriate time to hold the next meeting.
Greg Smith
Con
Mid Buckinghamshire
Question
What representations will my right hon. Friend make to those outside Northern Ireland such that they listen more carefully to the concerns of all communities?
Minister reply
We must ensure EU understands identity issues and work together to move things forward.
Question
The Secretary of State should tell the Prime Minister he has to be visible at this time if he is to provide the kind of leadership we have expected from Prime Ministers in the past.
Minister reply
The Prime Minister has been involved and was actually there just a couple of weeks ago.
Colum Eastwood
SDLP
Foyle
Question
Why will the Secretary of State not convene the British-Irish Intergovernmental Conference?
Minister reply
We are finding ways to bring together all partners, including the EU and civil society.
Question
Will he confirm that he is finding ways to bring together all partners not just the PSNI and the Northern Ireland Executive?
Minister reply
We must ensure there is a stronger relationship with police and political parties in some communities.
Carla Lockhart
DUP
Upper Bann
Question
Expresses support for the PSNI and highlights the need to address deprivation and segregation. Questions the Secretary of State about the implementation of the protocol, suggesting it exacerbates societal difficulties in Northern Ireland.
Minister reply
Acknowledges frustration and anger among Unionist community but emphasises peaceful protests as the right way to express dissatisfaction. Emphasises working with European partners for a pragmatic and flexible approach.
Question
Urges Secretary of State to extend Fresh Start funding and provide clarity on shared prosperity fund for local employability schemes.
Minister reply
Agrees to engage in discussions about the use of funds, including the community renewal fund and others. Confirms focus on social fabric and integrated education.
Question
Asks Secretary of State to urge political parties not to suspend democratic institutions but keep talking for a solution.
Minister reply
Confirms the main political parties are working together, highlighting their commitment to disagreeing democratically and peacefully.
Alison McGovern
Lab
Birkenhead
Question
Asks Secretary of State to explain why Prime Minister negotiated an agreement that places barriers down the Irish sea contrary to previous statements.
Minister reply
Highlights complexity of situation and importance of respecting Good Friday agreement, emphasising need for a flexible approach to protocol implementation.
Question
Urges Secretary of State to stress the need for peaceful and inclusive dialogue.
Minister reply
Agrees that violence is unacceptable and reiterates commitment to working through issues with political parties and community groups.
Question
Critiques Government's handling of Northern Ireland situation, accusing them of undermining the Good Friday agreement.
Minister reply
Acknowledges multifaceted issues but reiterates commitment to a flexible approach to protocol and ensuring no borders down Irish sea.
Question
Emphasises importance of Belfast/Good Friday agreement as the basis for future co-operation.
Minister reply
Agrees, stressing the success of the Good Friday agreement in fostering economic growth and entrepreneurship in Northern Ireland.
Gavin Robinson
DUP
Belfast East
Question
May I convey my thoughts for those PSNI officers who have been injured in the last week? They serve our community valiantly and often become the casualty when politics does not work. I also commend the leadership shown by my colleagues in my constituency of Belfast East and community leaders who have ensured that our part of the city has remained calm.
Minister reply
The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. I commend him and his colleagues in the area who have been working closely with their communities and giving the support that the community groups, communities themselves and indeed the PSNI have benefited from.
Gavin Robinson
DUP
Belfast East
Question
The Secretary of State is right to caution against legitimising violence. It should not happen. Violence is wrong. But when we talk of dialogue, I hope he will agree that the serious issues that have been raised should not be ignored.
Minister reply
He is also right that we all need to ensure that we are engaging properly across the entire community of Northern Ireland. We should be engaging with anybody looking to find a peaceful solution and to use dialogue to condemn violence, and wanting to be part of taking Northern Ireland forward in a positive way.
Question
Further to what my hon. Friends have said about the Northern Ireland protocol, does my right hon. Friend agree that the reckless invocation of article 16 by the EU, for however short a period, without thought for the consequences, has contributed to the political tensions we now see in Northern Ireland?
Minister reply
My hon. Friend is correct. To be fair, the EU has recognised the mistake, acknowledged the mistake, apologised for it and stepped back from the brink, but that action definitely had an impact.
Fleur Anderson
Lab
Putney
Question
Given that the Government are committed to seeking an agreement with the EU on veterinary standards, which has been repeated by the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, can the Secretary of State confirm that that is something that Ministers are pursuing in the Joint Committee? Does he support such an agreement, which would reduce checks and red tape and lower tension in the long term?
Minister reply
The hon. Lady is right. The Joint Committee, Lord Frost, my colleague the Secretary of State for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs and other relevant Departments have, across Government, been working on the various issues, to iron out the challenges and some of the problems that we have seen with the outworking of the protocol in the first few months of this year.
Mary Foy
Lab
City of Durham
Question
Social media has been used to lure young people to interfaces between communities, inflaming the crisis with provocative messages and fake news. Will the Secretary of State make clear that social media giants such as Facebook and WhatsApp cannot wash their hands of responsibility, and they have a duty to act to prevent their platforms from being used to incite violence?
Minister reply
The hon. Lady makes a good point, and it is another example of how, even in an extended discussion such as this one, many more issues have been involved over the past few weeks.
Gregory Campbell
DUP
East Londonderry
Question
The Secretary of State indicated that there was widespread condemnation of the violence of the past week or so, and he is right. That was not always the case, but thankfully it is now. Two outstanding problems need to be resolved with the utmost urgency. One is the Northern Ireland protocol, which he alluded to, and the other is the position of the Chief Constable. Will the Secretary of State recommit himself to ensuring that those two obstacles to progress can be dealt with in a satisfactory way, so as to take us forward peacefully and democratically?
Minister reply
As I have outlined this afternoon and previously in the House, we have a clear focus on the work to move things forward on the protocol in a pragmatic and flexible way, so that it works and delivers for people in Northern Ireland, without hindrance or problem.
Daniel Zeichner
Lab
Cambridge
Question
I am of the generation that remembers what discord in Ireland meant for people here on the mainland. I remember my mum being scared to go to work in London because of the bombs that were going off. Scared to go to work in London! What would the Secretary of State say today to those like my mum who would not understand how the Government have allowed the current situation to arise?
Minister reply
As the hon. Gentleman will know, sadly and inexcusably we have seen pockets of violence across the UK over the last few months, in London, Bristol and elsewhere.
Question
It is a denial, Sir, not to acknowledge the consequences of decisions taken by those on both Front Benches, and imposed on Northern Ireland, which have caused seismic societal, economic and community breakdown. That is the Northern Ireland protocol, and we are witnessing that breakdown today.
Minister reply
Yes, I understand the point the hon. Gentleman was making. He referenced a few of the things I outlined in my opening remarks about the challenges, the straw that broke the camel’s back and the issues around the protocol earlier this year.
Question
As the hon. Member for North Antrim (Ian Paisley) said, the protocol is at the heart of this issue. The Secretary of State knows that there were only three options: all-UK alignment with the customs union and the single market, a land border between north and south, or a border in the Irish sea. The Prime Minister chose the sea border, but then he promised that it would not involve the checks that he signed up to in the protocol.
Minister reply
Given that this was outlined earlier today, it is interesting that Opposition Members continue to want to talk about nothing else but leaving the EU.
Question
The wholly unacceptable disorder was in part driven by the non-tariff barriers on exports from Great Britain to Northern Ireland. I understand the Government are planning the full implementation of border checks on imports from the European Union from October. Will that include non-tariff barriers on exports from Northern Ireland to Great Britain?
Minister reply
The hon. Gentleman could look at the legislation we passed last year that ensures that Northern Ireland businesses have unfettered access to markets in the rest of the UK. We legislated for that, we have delivered on that, and we will continue to work to ensure equally flexible and free flow of trade from GB to NI, as I have outlined this afternoon.
Jim Shannon
DUP
Strangford
Question
I thank and agree with the Secretary of State. We all agree that violence is unjustified and unjustifiable. It will break lives and homes, but it will not fix the problems. Democratic politics is the only solution, and politics must be seen to work. The overwhelming majority of good, law-abiding folks in Northern Ireland will never pick up a stone or throw a petrol bomb. We support the police and the rule of law. However, the Northern Ireland protocol has disrupted business and has created problems on the streets. People are dismayed, there is anger and the frustration is boiling over. Some of them feel they are—indeed, we probably all feel we are—second-class citizens. At the same time, 2,000 people attended the Bobby Storey funeral; we buried my mother-in-law last October, with 25 at the funeral. Will the Secretary of State join me in rejecting two-tier policing where there is one rule for us, but another rule for Sinn Féin, and will he recognise that the flawed Northern Ireland protocol is disrupting peace, rather than cementing stability?
Minister reply
I agree in large part with what the hon. Gentleman has said. It is why it is important for us to be working to find solutions for the impact of the outworking of the protocol on the ground and—he is absolutely right, and I absolutely understand this—the impact on people’s sense of identity. I welcome his condemnation of the violence we saw the other week. On policing, it is important that people are clear that the PSNI’s work is to be there to support, keep safe and protect people of all communities on an equal basis. People need to have trust and faith in that, and I know the PSNI is focused on looking at what it can do to make sure it is delivering it. It is simply unacceptable, particularly with such a set of regulations, that any one community should be in a position where it believes it can see there has been a difference in treatment from one part of the community to another, especially with something so sensitive as family funerals over the last year or so. I absolutely understand people’s frustration, and I know the PSNI does as well. It is working to ensure that people are clear and can have confidence and trust that it is there to work for people across the whole community of Northern Ireland—equally, fairly and properly—to keep us all safe.
Shadow Comment
Louise Haigh
Shadow Comment
Louise Haigh, Shadow Secretary of State for Wales, thanked Lewis for advance sight of his statement. She expressed concern over the recent disorder in Northern Ireland and noted that while some factors include disrupted paramilitaries lashing out at the police and anger over past handling of events like Bobby Storey's funeral, there is also deep hurt and anger among Unionist and loyalist communities due to a loss of trust stemming from Brexit. Haigh called for urgent talks with political parties in Northern Ireland and all protocol stakeholders to restore this trust. She asked when the Prime Minister planned to travel to Belfast to convene such talks, what strategy would address the loss of trust among these communities, how representatives of Northern Ireland were being brought into negotiations on decisions affecting their future, and what practical solutions were sought with the EU to reduce checks between Britain and Northern Ireland. Haigh emphasised that peace is an ongoing process and called for a renewed commitment to the principles securing the Belfast/Good Friday agreement.
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