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Building Safety
10 February 2021
Lead MP
Robert Jenrick
Debate Type
Ministerial Statement
Tags
EconomyHousingForeign Affairs
Other Contributors: 30
At a Glance
Robert Jenrick raised concerns about building safety in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.
How the Debate Unfolded
MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said:
Government Statement
The Minister announced a comprehensive plan to address the issue of unsafe building cladding, especially in high-rise residential buildings. The Government aims to remove all unsafe aluminium composite material (ACM) cladding and provide certainty for leaseholders by ensuring they face no costs for remediation works. This involves providing over £5 billion in funding, including an additional £3.5 billion announced today, alongside a long-term low-interest scheme to assist with the removal of unsafe cladding on medium-rise buildings. The Minister also proposed introducing a developer levy through the Building Safety Bill and a new tax on property developers to contribute towards remediation costs. Emphasising public safety while maintaining proportionality, the Government will establish a world-class building safety regime. This intervention aims to restore confidence in the housing market and support homeowners affected by cladding issues.
Question
The MP's question or point. Include their concern, local impact, or criticism. 2-4 sentences.
Minister reply
The minister's response to THIS specific MP. Include commitments, rebuttals, details. 2-4 sentences.
Bristol West
Question
The hon. Member for Bristol West expressed concern over the lack of progress in remediation efforts despite previous commitments, noting that hundreds of thousands are still living in unsafe homes three and a half years after the Grenfell tragedy. She questioned the adequacy of the funding announced, particularly its coverage for buildings under 18 metres which remain excluded from certain funds. Debbonaire also raised issues about loan terms such as interest rates and repayment conditions, stressing the financial hardship faced by leaseholders who are unable to sell their properties due to safety concerns.
Minister reply
The Secretary of State defended the government's approach, emphasising that high-rise buildings over 18 metres were prioritised based on expert advice due to higher risks. He assured that in these cases, leaseholders will not bear any costs and building owners or taxpayers through levies and taxes would cover expenses. The minister highlighted significant progress made since his tenure began, noting 95% of high-rise buildings with dangerous ACM cladding are now remediated or under remediation, contrasting this with inaction by devolved administrations like Scotland. He criticised the opposition for failing to provide practical solutions and acknowledged the new financing scheme as a substantial step towards addressing safety issues in lower-rise buildings.
Peter Bottomley
Con
Wantage
Question
May I first say that I am a leaseholder who is neither affected by the problem nor gaining by the solution? We recognise that this is another set of major steps along the way. During the last three years, the problems have been spelled out by the all-party parliamentary group on leasehold and commonhold reform, and I pay tribute to the hon. Member for Ellesmere Port and Neston (Justin Madders) for working together in a cross- party way. There will be more to do, and the Select Committee will no doubt have hearings. Will my right hon. Friend thank the Chancellor and the Prime Minister for helping to make the funding available? I do not claim that it is going to be enough, but it is a major step forward and I recognise that. There is a problem about low-rise accommodation in low-income areas looking at high-rises in high-income areas getting more direct help. Will my right hon. Friend talk about that? Can he also confirm that no leaseholder who does not actually own anything will have to sign away any of their rights to eventual compensation, as and when the inquiry finishes and any civil claims of liability against developers, cladding manufacturers, local building control or national regulators come to be finalised?
Minister reply
I praise my hon. Friend for his determined campaigning on the issue over many years, which I think everybody in the House has recognised and for which many leaseholders will no doubt be grateful. I have been pleased to work with him and to take his advice when it has been needed. I assure him that the funding that we have made available today will provide leaseholders with the certainty and confidence that they need.
Patricia Gibson
SNP
North Ayrshire and Arran
Question
The announcement today of an additional £3.5 billion is encouraging as far as it goes, and I am sure that the Scottish Government look forward to the consequentials arising from it. What the Secretary of State has said will offer some relief to homeowners affected by cladding issues, many of whom are already struggling with bills and simply do not feel able to take on more debt as their dream homes have become a nightmare, with mortgage valuations of zero due to unsafe cladding. As he knows, the consequences have been far reaching for those caught up in this scandal, with homes currently worth nothing that cannot be sold and in which residents feel unsafe. I very much welcome the responsibility for cladding being borne—in part, at least—by the larger players in the industry, but more details as to how that works are needed. Despite the Secretary of State saying that no leaseholder will ever pay back more than £50 a month in loans to remove this cladding, I am sure that he will understand that that will still be disappointing for many, since, through no fault of their own, they are still facing additional costs after buying their homes in good faith; they face debt that they do not want and which will impact on household incomes during these difficult times. Much more detail on exactly how these low interest loans will work is needed. Can the Secretary of State confirm that there will be an upper limit to these additional costs for leaseholders, or is the £50 cap only a monthly cap? He will appreciate that this matters because building work so often overruns. Will he also tell me within what timeframe he expects this remediation work to be completed?
Minister reply
I am grateful to the hon. Lady for welcoming much of the substance of today’s announcement. I draw her back to my earlier remarks: to the best of my knowledge, the Scottish Government have made no use at all of the funding that they have been provided with through the existing building safety fund.
Felicity Buchan
Con
Kensington
Question
I thank the Secretary of State for working so closely with me on cladding issues over the past 15 months. I have been calling for a substantial and comprehensive package for cladding remediation, so I warmly welcome this announcement, which, importantly, allows funds to be deployed very quickly and does not require taskforces or legislation. I have called for a package of £5 billion to £10 billion; I quickly tried to tot up all the numbers as the Secretary of State went through the details, and I think this funding could be approaching certainly the middle if not the upper end of that range. Will he confirm that and assure me that money will be deployed as quickly as possible?
Minister reply
I praise my hon. Friend, who has been a fantastic Member of Parliament for Kensington since she was elected and has raised with me this and other issues arising out of the Grenfell tragedy almost every week—in fact, we meet every week to discuss these issues.
Clive Betts
Lab
Sheffield South East
Question
On behalf of the Housing, Communities and Local Government Committee, I thank the Secretary for his statement and welcome it—as far as it goes, because in terms of the Select Committee recommendations, it only goes so far. I invite him to come back to the Select Committee to discuss the issues in more detail shortly after the recess. First, immediately, will he confirm that as a result of the loan scheme, no leaseholder will be placed in negative equity? Secondly, has he done any assessment of the total amount of additional non-cladding costs to deal with building safety that will fall on leaseholders? Finally, will he confirm that there is no help in his statement for councils and housing associations, and that as a result, to carry out essential safety work, they are going to have to put up rents, cut maintenance or cut the number of affordable homes that they can build?
Minister reply
I thank the hon. Gentleman and the members of the Select Committee for their expert advice on this issue over a number of years, and to me personally as Secretary of State.
Kate Griffiths
Lab
Bolton West
Question
I welcome the measures that my right hon. Friend has set out, but may I urge him to review the long-term issues here? Profitability should not come before safety. Will he look into the issue that I hear about regularly of new build properties not being built to high enough standards, leaving homeowners spending months chasing developers to come back and fix problems with their homes?
Minister reply
I entirely agree with my hon. Friend. We all believe in home ownership. We want to get more people on to the housing ladder, and we know that owning a home of your own is one of the most special achievements in life. But we also know that, in recent years, some of our developers—and some of our most prominent ones, too—have built homes that are to a poor standard; they have admitted it in some cases. We need to make sure that that is corrected, so that the quality of homes in this country is high and members of the public can have confidence when making that life-changing investment.
Lyn Brown
Lab
West Ham
Question
I agree with everything my hon. Friend the Member for Bristol West (Thangam Debbonaire) said, with knobs on. My constituents will not be reassured by what they have heard. Loans for leaseholders still are not off the table. The Secretary of State has avoided talking about non-cladding costs, and there is still no guarantee that my constituents will not be left with large associated bills for problems they did not create. A number of institutions are profiteering from this crisis, including parts of the insurance industry and others, with eye-watering premiums. Why are we still waiting for the Secretary of State to get a grip on this crisis?
Minister reply
I am disappointed by the tone of the hon. Lady’s remarks. She has followed this issue closely and has fought for her constituents, and I praise her and recognise her for that hard work, but this Government have done a huge amount, and I entirely reject her accusations.
Shaun Bailey
Con
Bromsgrove
Question
I welcome my right hon. Friend’s statement; it was clearly the right one. What leaseholders will ultimately care about is making sure that this remediation is done. What work is he undertaking with small and medium-sized enterprises, such as S Bayliss Roofing and Cladding in Tipton, to make sure that they can get this work done, so that leaseholders can finally be free of this dangerous cladding and the impact that it has on their status as homeowners?
Minister reply
The approach that I took when I became Secretary of State was to set a target for us that we would either remediate all buildings or get the workers on site by the end of last year. As I say, with a few exceptions —largely because of the covid-19 pandemic—we achieved that.
Rachel Hopkins
Lab
Luton South and South Bedfordshire
Question
I am pleased that the Secretary of State wants to tackle rising insurance premiums, but I have spoken to many leaseholders in my constituency of Luton South who have faced the additional costs of interim safety measures, such as waking watch, and of fixing other fire safety issues, which the Secretary of State seemed to push back on. These joined-up financial pressures are pushing many leaseholders near to bankruptcy, so what are the Government doing to help bring down these costs?
Minister reply
We are working with the insurance sector, which I think now needs to take a more proportionate, risk-based approach. These might be outliers, but some of the examples I have heard of insurance premiums rising by 1,000% are completely out of kilter with the statistics I gave earlier.
David Evennett
Con
Bexleyheath and Crayford
Question
I welcome my right hon. Friend’s statement and know that many people in my constituency and across the country will be relieved that the Government are taking further action on the issue of unsafe cladding. Does he agree that speed is of the essence, and will he confirm that the additional financial remediation will help relieve the worry and remove unfair and unfounded costs on leaseholders to deal with the removal of unsafe cladding?
Minister reply
I certainly can, and I thank my right hon. Friend for the work he has done on behalf of his constituents.
Daisy Cooper
LD
St Albans
Question
When there was a failure of regulation in the City, the Government bailed out the banks in a matter of days, to the tune of £500 billion. In the face of a failure of fire safety regulation, when people are terrified of burning to death in their homes, the Government have taken three and a half years and offered only £6 billion. My constituents are still facing the costs of non-cladding fire safety problems, waking watches and more, so when will the Government accept the basic principle that cladding victims should not have to pay a penny to fix fire safety problems that are not of their making?
Minister reply
Actually, the Government acted decisively in the immediate aftermath of Grenfell Tower. Expert opinion has evolved over time.
Question
I thank the Secretary of State for his statement on building safety. Warrington does not have any apartments over 18 metres, which would require remediation, but I have heard from a number of parents concerned that their sons and daughters are paying additional charges, levied by landlords, to cover the cost of insurance and waking watches in apartments that they have purchased. What steps are the Government taking to cover these costs, so that the burden does not fall on families in my constituency?
Minister reply
The announcement that we have made today and the work that the Chancellor and I have done with each of the major retail banks, which strongly support the intervention, give much greater confidence to lenders, surveyors and insurers to re-enter the market.
Diana R. Johnson
Lab
Kingston upon Hull North and Cottingham
Question
The Secretary of State has referred to fairness and the need for building companies to step up, but what more is he doing to pursue those responsible for unsafe homes, leaving taxpayers and leaseholders to meet clean-up costs?
Minister reply
We have established an independent Grenfell inquiry that heard allegations of malpractice and dishonesty among manufacturers. The Government aims to ensure the industry pays its fair share through a levy and tax announced today.
Question
Will he assure me that the wealthiest individuals and organisations in the land will be paying their fair share?
Minister reply
The measures, including the new levy and tax, aim to ensure that the industry pays its fair share for remediation of buildings they are responsible for.
Question
What will the Government do immediately to engage with insurers so leaseholders can buy affordable cover until their buildings are made safe?
Minister reply
The Association of British Insurers needs to take a proportionate risk-based approach, and we have engaged repeatedly with them.
Question
Does the Secretary of State agree that if developers behave in this manner again, the Government will come after them, not the taxpayer?
Minister reply
Yes, the draft Building Safety Bill will introduce a tight regulatory regime for high-rise buildings over 18 metres to prevent such issues from happening again.
Catherine West
Lab
Hornsey and Friern Barnet
Question
What about housing associations that do not have the money to give relief to desperate leaseholders?
Minister reply
We focus funding on those housing associations or local councils that cannot fund remediation themselves, either through reserves or borrowing.
Ellie Reeves
Lab
Lewisham West and East Dulwich
Question
Leaseholders of buildings below 18 metres will still need to foot the bill. What does the Secretary of State say to constituents who were promised that leaseholders would not have to pay for a crisis they did not cause?
Minister reply
We focus our attention on higher-risk buildings over 18 metres, while bringing forward financing schemes for buildings between 11 and 18 metres.
Question
Although we are focusing today on cladding, what further work will be done to help leaseholders facing costs in relation to other fire safety defects?
Minister reply
We want the building owners to take responsibility for poor workmanship and support leaseholders to pursue claims against those responsible.
Janet Daby
Lab
Lewisham East
Question
Leaseholders need reassurance that they will not have to wait another four years. Will the Secretary of State please explain why leaseholders should be made to pay hidden or other costs for a problem they did not cause?
Minister reply
We aim to balance the interests of leaseholders and the broader taxpayer, ensuring this intervention is fair and that this never happens again.
Edward Leigh
Con
Gainsborough
Question
May I once again say a word on behalf of the general taxpayers? My constituents hardly ever get a mention in this Chamber and they are being asked to bail out greedy developers. Can we have a balance? Additionally, may I ask my right hon. Friend about Lincoln University which has been forced to reclad one of its residences?
Minister reply
On Lincoln University: We have worked with the Department for Education on buildings in the wider public sector and will update him regarding Lincoln University. On the first point, we are trying to strike a balance protecting both homeowners' and non-homeowners' interests while providing safety and fairness for leaseholders.
Florence Eshalomi
Lab Co-op
Vauxhall and Camberwell Green
Question
I welcome the announcement, but for many constituents it will make no or little material difference. Many continue to pay thousands of pounds for interim safety measures despite Government assurances. Why are not all leaseholders treated equally?
Minister reply
The hon. Lady is wrong; thousands of her constituents will directly benefit from today’s announcement. We prioritise buildings over 18 metres due to the greatest risk and direct public money there, where it is needed most.
Lee Anderson
Reform
Ashfield
Question
I welcome what he has announced today. May I ask him what the Scottish and Welsh Governments are doing to improve building safety?
Minister reply
The Scottish Government have done nothing with the significant sum of money they received through Barnett consequentials, and I am not aware of what the Welsh Government are doing.
Neil Coyle
Lab
Bermondsey and Old Southwark
Question
How do today’s proposals protect a leaseholder who has been paying £50 a month but still has a large loan outstanding on their home at the point of sale due to cladding costs? Is the Secretary of State failing to deliver fairness?
Minister reply
For buildings of between four and six storeys, where the risk is lower, leaseholders will have the opportunity to take advantage of the financing scheme which will sit with the building, not the individual.
North Cotswolds
Question
In drawing attention to my entry in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests, I say that this is one of the most generous and innovative schemes. Will it apply to non-cladding costs such as fire doors and asbestos?
Minister reply
We have chosen to focus both the grant scheme and the financing arrangements on cladding because the expert advice consistently states that cladding is the greatest danger.
Justin Madders
Lab
Ellesmere Port and Bromborough
Question
I welcome the funding announced as a step in the right direction, but unfortunately it covers only around half the anticipated cost. The Secretary of State has said that he has sympathy for leaseholders, yet no one below 18 metres will be paying for cladding costs.
Minister reply
We do not want any leaseholders to pay for fire safety defects; we want that to be paid by the building owners. In situations where it is not possible, buildings above 18 metres will take advantage of the new scheme and no leaseholder in that situation will have to pay for the remediation.
Emma Lewell
Lab
South Shields
Question
Yesterday revealed that a company shamefully sold flammable materials for Grenfell Tower because it was cheaper. Why is it taking so long to identify all buildings, including care homes and hospitals, that may have unsafe cladding?
Minister reply
We moved swiftly by setting up the Grenfell inquiry and bringing forward the Judith Hackitt review of building safety. We are also creating a new national regulator of construction products and reviewing testing procedures for construction products.
Bob Blackman
Con
Harrow East
Question
Thanking the Minister for listening to representations made by the Housing, Communities and Local Government Committee and other colleagues, Bob Blackman commends the Minister's recent announcements concerning high-rise buildings. However, he expresses concern about medium-rise blocks and incomplete applications for the Building Safety Fund that require survey work. He asks what measures are being taken to ensure these surveys are conducted and completed so that work on unsafe buildings can progress.
Minister reply
The Minister thanked his hon. Friend for his support and advice over recent months and acknowledged the issue of incomplete applications due to a lack of knowledge about building materials. To address this, the Ministry is working with the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors to increase the number of trained assessors and with the Treasury to facilitate professional indemnity insurance for these assessors. This effort aims to provide certainty and enable rapid commencement of necessary safety works.
Shadow Comment
Thangam Debbonaire
Shadow Comment
The shadow minister criticised the Government for failing to deliver on previous promises, highlighting delays and underestimations of the problem's scale. She questioned whether the new funding would cover all buildings over 18 metres and called for an independent taskforce to prioritise remediation based on risk. Debbonaire expressed concern about leaseholders being saddled with debt due to cladding issues they did not cause, questioning the terms of loans offered by the Government and their impact on economic recovery. She urged the Government to pursue those responsible fully, including manufacturers and developers, and demanded a commitment to remove all dangerous cladding by 2022.
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