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Covid-19 Update
19 July 2021
Lead MP
Nadhim Zahawi
Debate Type
Ministerial Statement
Tags
NHS
Other Contributors: 33
At a Glance
Nadhim Zahawi raised concerns about covid-19 update in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.
How the Debate Unfolded
MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said:
Government Statement
The Minister announces the UK's cautious approach to easing pandemic restrictions, including a focus on vaccination efforts and pragmatic measures for managing risks. He highlights significant progress in the vaccination programme, achieving the target of offering second doses to two-thirds of adults by June. The minister discusses extending vaccinations to certain younger age groups based on medical advice and outlines plans for booster shots as needed. He also addresses easing self-isolation rules for double-jabbed individuals in critical roles and updates international travel regulations. Additionally, the statement covers measures like using NHS covid passes and planning restrictions for nightclubs and other crowded venues post-September.
Jon Ashworth
Lab
Question
Will the Minister provide more details about vaccinating teenagers aged 12 to 18? Why is the UK not following other countries' lead in vaccinating all adolescents in this age group?
Minister reply
The minister explains that certain younger individuals with specific health conditions will be vaccinated as per JCVI advice. He confirms ongoing review for broader vaccination eligibility and highlights medical basis behind current decisions.
Jon Ashworth
Lab
Question
How does the government plan to manage testing capacity, especially during school reopenings? What are the plans for multi-pathogen testing this winter?
Minister reply
The minister acknowledges concerns about testing and promises to ensure sufficient PCR testing capacity through summer. He confirms consideration of investing in multi-pathogen testing infrastructure.
Jon Ashworth
Lab
Question
Can the government clarify the process behind a 'random' clinical trial that involved key ministers, including the Prime Minister and Chancellor?
Minister reply
The minister acknowledges the shadow's query but does not provide specific details about the process or involvement of ministers in the trial.
Jon Ashworth
Lab
Delyn
Question
The MP thanked the Minister and condemned harassment of police officers. He questioned the number of teenagers to be vaccinated, the lack of immediate vaccination for all 12 to 18-year-olds, and the clinical basis for JCVI's decision. The shadow also asked about plans for schools reopening in September, PCR testing capacity during the school return period, multi-pathogen testing investment, and NHS isolation policies.
Minister reply
The Minister condemned harassment of police officers and stated that approximately 370,000 children will be vaccinated. He explained that JCVI is waiting for more data before extending vaccination to all adolescents. Testing capacity was addressed, with over 600,000 PCR tests daily, and lateral flow test supplies are being streamlined for NHS staff.
Peter Bottomley
Con
Worthing West
Question
The MP raised concerns about the NHS testing system changes that require frontline staff to apply for seven-day supplies of lateral flow tests instead of three months' supply, leading to more waste and work.
Minister reply
The Minister took feedback seriously and promised to ensure efficient operational delivery of lateral flow tests to the frontline.
Martyn Day
SNP
Linlithgow and East Falkirk
Question
The MP welcomed clarity from JCVI but questioned vaccine supply assurance, methods to persuade unvaccinated younger adults, and UK Government responsibility for potential consequences of current public health measures. He also criticised attempts by the party colleagues in Scotland to politicize the vaccine roll-out.
Minister reply
The Minister assured consistent Pfizer supply and emphasised the transition from pandemic to endemic status with a booster campaign in September. He noted that 87.9% of adults have had at least one dose, while 68% are fully vaccinated.
Jeremy Hunt
Con
Godalming and Ash
Question
Expresses concerns about the timing of introducing covid vaccine passports for nightclubs by September end, questioning why waiting until then rather than implementing them sooner to prevent additional cases. Also inquires about replacing self-isolation requirement with a negative PCR test requirement.
Minister reply
Acknowledges that 16 August will be most appropriate time to implement changes as more people get double jabbed and protected; working with industry to ensure proper implementation by September end; frontline staff can do lateral flow testing and PCR test on 16 August.
Munira Wilson
Lib Dem
Twickenham
Question
Asks for guarantees that schools will reopen fully and safely in September, despite potential new restrictions due to rising cases. Questions the decision not to vaccinate all teenagers.
Minister reply
Children with vulnerabilities, those living with vulnerable adults, and 17-year-olds close to their 18th birthday are being vaccinated; testing for two supervised tests on return and continued until September end; double-vaccinated people reduce transmission rates by about 50%.
Question
Highlights ongoing concern with variants of covid-19, questioning the concept of 'freedom day' amid confusion due to NHS app pings and increasing numbers isolating; enquires if police are included in critical workers who do not need to isolate.
Minister reply
Reassures that police fall under category of key workers and will not need to isolate; emphasises cautious approach as we enter step 4.
Grahame Morris
Lab
Easington
Question
Praises the Catch Up with Cancer campaign for their work pressing for ring-fenced investment in NHS cancer infrastructure; questions future protection measures for immunocompromised groups post-vaccination.
Minister reply
Vaccines offer around 74% protection for immunosuppressed or immunocompromised individuals; JCVI recommends third dose as boost; ongoing clinical trial to understand data further.
Caroline Nokes
Con
Romsey and Southampton North
Question
Expresses concern among constituents about potential wrong batch of AstraZeneca vaccine, seeks reassurance that no British traveller will be turned away at the border.
Minister reply
Reassures that all batches of AstraZeneca vaccine in UK are same; independent regulator regulates manufacturing sites for vaccines; 33 countries now recognise UK vaccine certification.
Debbie Abrahams
Lab
Oldham East and Saddleworth
Question
Concerned about lifting mitigations amid escalating cases, 12 million unvaccinated individuals, and exhausted NHS workforce; asks for estimates on impact of mask-wearing three weeks after 80% vaccination.
Minister reply
Acknowledges importance of high uptake among vulnerable groups; emphasises transition to endemic status as virus is present in most countries worldwide.
Question
Highlights rapid rise in coronavirus cases but low death rate due to successful vaccination programme; questions if society must learn to live with the virus like other endemic infections.
Minister reply
Agrees that societal transition from pandemic to endemic status is necessary; emphasises high uptake among vulnerable groups.
Chris Bryant
Lab
Rhondda and Ogmore
Question
Due to the pandemic, about 5 million people in the UK are waiting for hospital treatment. The NHS is under pressure, but some people opt for private healthcare due to long waits. Shouldn't the NHS use all available capacity to reduce this backlog?
Minister reply
The Minister thanked the MP for a thoughtful question and acknowledged that about 5.3 million people are awaiting treatment. He highlighted that £1 billion has been allocated to address both pandemic response and the NHS backlog.
Bernard Jenkin
Con
Harwich and North Essex
Question
What is limiting the daily vaccination rate from being sustained at a higher level? Are considerations given to reward systems used in other countries?
Minister reply
Vaccination rates are high, with 88% having received their first dose and 68% fully vaccinated. Efforts include setting up various access points like pop-ups, mosques, GPs, pharmacies, vaccine buses, and community centres to ensure everyone has easy access.
Jim Shannon
DUP
Strangford
Question
The Minister thanked others for the vaccine programme efforts. How effective will vaccinating those aged 12-17 prove in limiting school spread, and what discussions have there been with Education Ministers?
Minister reply
Preparations are being made for co-administration of flu and covid vaccines starting early September based on JCVI interim advice, though it could change as more clinical data is gathered.
Question
What is the scientific basis for lifting most restrictions from July 19th but delaying full freedom until August 16th despite high vaccination rates?
Minister reply
Most restrictions have been lifted, but it's possible to still catch and spread covid even if fully vaccinated. The delay allows more time for vaccinations; cases are rising due to delta variant, but hospitalisation and deaths remain low.
Question
Despite the UK having high case numbers, delays in accessing PCR tests and long turnaround times hinder public health efforts. How many daily PCR tests will be needed if cases reach 200,000?
Minister reply
PCR testing capacity is currently at 600,000 per day but only about half of that was utilized recently. The Government also conducts millions of lateral flow tests daily.
Question
Can the Minister confirm a full impact assessment was completed before making it compulsory for care home staff to be vaccinated, despite this being contentious and marking a major policy shift?
Minister reply
An impact statement has been published with more details forthcoming. The Barchester Healthcare example shows that only 0.5% of their workforce declined vaccination after consultation.
Question
Why does the Government persist in using lateral flow devices instead of domestic diagnostics which excel in both symptomatic and asymptomatic settings?
Minister reply
The Government works closely with the diagnostics industry to scale up testing capacity. They are open to considering other companies if recommended.
Question
What are the results of the test-to-release experiment and how might it affect businesses struggling due to staff shortages?
Minister reply
Subject to clinical trial results expected within a week or two, daily contact testing for some workplaces may be extended. Initial focus will likely be on those with established asymptomatic testing sites.
Andrew Gwynne
Ind
Gorton and Denton
Question
We all want to see the back of this pandemic and life return to normality. History will no doubt judge the wisdom or otherwise of “freedom day” at this point in time. I wish to focus on long covid, because it is a fact that the more covid there is, the more long covid there will be. At its worst, it is debilitating. It is just awful, and I know that because I am still suffering with it, after 16 months. If the balance of risk is more long covid, may I ask the Minister what more his Government will do to help those with it in their health recovery, to help employers impacted by an ill workforce and in providing social security for those on the long-term sick with long covid?
Minister reply
I am very grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his excellent question and I wish him a continued recovery. I know from the work that I have seen that it is not easy. I believe there are just over 900,000 people suffering from different forms of long covid. We have made an additional £150 million available for the NHS, both in terms of looking at long covid, and having an infrastructure to be able to deal with it and help support GPs to diagnose it.
Caroline Johnson
Con
Sleaford and North Hykeham
Question
The Minister is aware of my reservations about asking children to be vaccinated where it may provide only very marginal benefit to them, but this relies on the importance of informed consent and people being given all the right information. Can he confirm, first, that where children with medical conditions are being offered the vaccine, the risk posed to that child from a serious effect from covid is greater than the risk to that child posed by any vaccine? Can he also confirm that, where children are being asked to be vaccinated to protect an adult who may be vulnerable for whatever reason, those parents, carers and the child will be provided with the absolute—not relative—risk reduction for those individuals they are being asked to be vaccinated for?
Minister reply
My hon. Friend’s question is an excellent one. She has participated in the vaccination programme—she is one of the heroes I stand on the shoulders of—and she has done work in Sleaford and North Hykeham. I absolutely confirm to her that the JCVI advice is very specific on the conditions of young people who will be eligible to receive the vaccine to protect them from covid and, of course, those adults who are also vulnerable to it. That is why I talked in my statement about the NHS being in contact with those families to be able to advise them and then facilitate vaccination in a place and at a time convenient for them.
Question
The Health Secretary was double jabbed and got infected. In Swansea Bay, 18% of those infected in June were double jabbed and 31% were single jabbed. So does the Minister accept that freedom day is not the freedom to infect others, that masks and social distancing remain vital and that jabs are stopping people from dying? Will he confirm that he is not pursuing a policy of herd immunity, which would overwhelm the NHS and leave a massive legacy of long covid, disabling our economy?
Minister reply
I can certainly confirm that, and the guidelines are very clear that we are both supporting people and recommending that they continue to be careful when in indoor spaces and crowded places, to wear masks and to take personal and corporate responsibility, rather than having government by diktat.
Question
I have to say that I do not welcome the Minister’s statement, particularly his announcement of compulsory vaccine passports for crowded venues, which is effectively moving to compulsory vaccination. However, I look forward to the debate and the vote in Parliament in September when he will bring forward the evidence, because I do not think that that policy is supported by the events pilots that have taken place. I want to ask the Minister about the self-isolation regime. It is important for public confidence that it is supported by evidence. It is the same regime that we had before we had any vaccination or before we had any lateral flow tests, and the Government seem to accept that logic because they are going to move to a new, more sensible model on 16 August. I listened carefully to his multiple answers to colleagues on both sides of the House, but I am afraid he could not really explain why we were waiting until 16 August. All the things that will be true on 16 August about the reduced risk for those who are fully vaccinated of getting infected also apply today. I urge him to bring forward that announcement and those measures to today or this week; do not leave them to 16 August.
Minister reply
My right hon. Friend always makes thoughtful and important interventions and I take his words incredibly seriously on both questions. One was about sharing with the House the evidence and working with the industry, whether it is the nightclub industry or at-risk large-scale indoor events. As I mentioned in my statement, we will come back to the House with that evidence. On the self-isolation issue, I hope he agrees that this was the right thing to do for frontline health and social care staff and for critical workers. The important thing is the clinical evidence. The chief medical officer’s very clear advice is that, as we go through step 4, we should have that additional buffer, if I can call it that, and continue to double vaccinate to allow us a bit more time to ensure that people who are double vaccinated can then come out of self-isolation because we can move to a PCR-negative or daily testing regime.
Peter Kyle
Lab
Hove and Portslade
Question
Come September, the settings that will be most vulnerable to covid will be schools. School classrooms are going to have a higher percentage of non-vaccinated people than anywhere else. The Government have scrapped the need for face masks and the bubbling system, and they have now forbidden schools and nurseries from doing in-house track and trace and forced them on to the failing nationwide track and trace system. I understand why we need to be really sensitive and cautious about vaccinating young people aged 12-plus, and I am cognisant of the comments made by the hon. Member for Sleaford and North Hykeham (Dr Johnson). However, in other areas, the JCVI has ensured that we are at the forefront of the global vaccination programme. Could the Minister explain the conversations he has been having with the JCVI as to why the Government are being so cautious in this regard? Will he explain to the House when the JCVI will give updated advice, because really those young people should be vaccinated over the summer if it is safe?
Minister reply
The hon. Member asks a really important question; it is one that we have asked the JCVI. There will be two supervised tests on return to school, but the other advantage will be the wall of vaccinated adults that will continue to increase.
Rupa Huq
Lab
Ealing Central and Acton
Question
It is good to see the Minister still standing on this freedom day, when it feels like half the Cabinet has been struck down, knocked out or whatever it is. Does he agree that, at a time when worryingly we hear of increased threats to vaccination centres, be they from the vile anti-vax propagandists outside this building right now or even people so keen to get jabbed that they leave vaccinators feeling vulnerable, nobody should feel intimidated when seeking perfectly legal healthcare? Does he also agree that there is scope for investigating an offence of violence towards NHS professionals, whether verbal or physical, in such a setting? It would bring the law into line with the “protect the protectors” legislation we already have for ambulance staff and the police. That was suggested to me by the Florence Nightingale nursing trainees I met last week. If he did that, he would be a hero among them—even though they did not get their pay rise. What does he think?
Minister reply
I thank the hon. Lady, who made an excellent video about the vaccination centre in Acton—she had a bit of a go at me for not delivering it within a few weeks, but we finally got it delivered in Acton. She has done a tremendous job in leading the vaccination communication in her community. I agree that it is abhorrent and completely wrong for anyone to intimidate people looking to get their vaccination, the incredible NHS staff delivering it, the volunteers or anyone else in the extraordinary mobilisation we have experienced of the nation coming together and delivering the largest vaccination programme in history.
Robbie Moore
Con
Keighley and Ilkley
Question
We cannot ignore the slight reduction in vaccine uptake in the past couple of weeks, which is in spite of the fantastic work being done across Keighley and Ilkley to deal with this, including at the Silsden medical practice, Keighley’s central mosque and Airedale Hospital, which this week are providing walk-in services for young people to get their vaccine. Will my hon. Friend join me in encouraging all those who have not yet taken up the offer of the vaccine to do so to prevent transmission and to help protect themselves and others?
Minister reply
I commend my hon. Friend for his exemplary work in taking the message out to his constituents that vaccines protect people, families and communities. He is right to continue to double down on his efforts. I assure him that we will do the same across the system, whether through pop-ups, mobile sites or opening for longer hours.
John Spellar
Lab
Warley
Question
As the Minister will know, I have long campaigned for a vaccine passport to enable individuals, society and the economy to speed up the return to normality, so I very much welcome the long-overdue and realistic NHS covid pass, but how will the Minister ensure take-up? Will he tell us which venues will be included and—equally importantly—whether any sporting, hospitality or leisure venues will be excluded?
Minister reply
I am grateful for the right hon. Gentleman’s support. We are looking at high-risk, large capacity indoor venues. My colleagues in the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy—the Under-Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, my hon. Friend the Member for Sutton and Cheam (Paul Scully) and others—are currently working with the industry to take advantage of step 4, to get those businesses back on their feet and then, of course, to take all that learning so that I can be back here at the Dispatch Box in September to share with the House how we can sustain the industry going forward while we live with covid, because we will have to transition this virus from pandemic to endemic status.
Greg Clark
Con
Islington North
Question
The now famous test and release pilot was first announced on 29 April. Is the lack of any results from that pilot, nearly three months after it started, a failure on the part of Public Health England, or are the results being suppressed because the Minister might be concerned that NHS Test and Trace does not have the testing capacity available to make test and release available to everyone?
Minister reply
In answer to an earlier question I informed the House that the test and release pilot results will be available in one to two weeks’ time. When they are, we will come to the House and share them with Members.
Tony Lloyd
Lab
Manchester Central
Question
The Minister has proved himself to be helpful and thoughtful in the way he has handled his brief, but will he tell us what research there has been into the impact of long covid on younger people? If in the end long covid is an issue not simply for adults but for children as well, will that affect the way we assess the need for a vaccination programme for young children?
Minister reply
I thank the hon. Gentleman for that excellent question and for his support on the weekly MPs’ briefing that we deliver on a Friday. Long covid is a serious issue among adults and children, and the JCVI of course looks at the available evidence. I caveat what I say by reminding the House that obviously this virus has been with us for only 17 months and we have had vaccines for only the past eight of those months, so we are learning all the time. As I said in answer to an earlier question, we have made money available to the health service so that it can look at how to support, for example, GPs in diagnosing long covid.
Roger Gale
Con
Herne Bay and Sandwich
Question
In addition to holidaymakers, hundreds of UK citizens want to go to France, a country with a much lower infection rate than the United Kingdom, to visit family, and there are also hundreds of UK citizens—expats—who wish to visit families in the United Kingdom. As a result of the decision taken by the Department of Health and Social Care, all those people now face exorbitant test costs and isolation when they come into the United Kingdom. The House of Commons has an excellent test system that generates a result within around 30 minutes and is reliable. Will my hon. Friend, who is the most effective of Ministers, use his influence to make sure that at the very least people who come back into the United Kingdom and have to be tested can do so at a reasonable and not disproportionate cost?
Minister reply
I am very grateful to my right hon. Friend, who is always diligent in his questioning, including on the Friday calls, on behalf of his constituents. He raises a really important point about the beta variant, which as a precautionary measure is clearly a variant of concern to us. It is the one that would give us the greatest headache, in terms of vaccine escape—hence why we took those precautionary measures. We keep that under review, and the biosecurity team does that very effectively.
My right hon. Friend also raises a really important point about the cost of testing. I will certainly take away his comments and discuss them within Government, including with the Secretary of State for Transport, who has looked at this and talked to those involved in the testing process to ensure that people are not penalised by exorbitant PCR test costs.
Shadow Comment
Jon Ashworth
Shadow Comment
The shadow criticises the government's approach to easing lockdowns, questioning the decision not to vaccinate all adolescents aged 12 to 18. He raises concerns about testing capacity and calls for investment in multi-pathogen testing infrastructure. The Labour member also expresses worry over potential new variants and hospital pressure due to high infection rates. He requests clarity on the government’s plan for school reopenings, air filtration units in classrooms, and the standard of masks used in NHS settings.
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