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BBC Local Radio
08 December 2022
Lead MP
Mike Penning
Debate Type
General Debate
Tags
Culture, Media & Sport
Other Contributors: 26
At a Glance
Mike Penning raised concerns about bbc local radio in the House of Commons. Other MPs contributed to the debate.
How the Debate Unfolded
MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said:
Lead Contributor
Opened the debate
Mr Penning argues that the BBC has lost its ethos by competing with commercial radio rather than providing a trusted, impartial service to constituents. He highlights the reliance on local radio during the pandemic and the importance of it during winter months for information dissemination. He criticises the disparity in remuneration between popular presenters like Gary Lineker and local station presenters who are not allowed to have other jobs in broadcasting.
Rosie Winterton
Lab
Doncaster Central
Ms Winterton emphasises the need for a level playing field between BBC Local Radio and commercial stations, stressing that local radio plays an indispensable role by providing trusted information to communities. She commends Three Counties Radio for its work during the pandemic.
David Davis
Con
Goole and Pocklington
Mr Davis agrees with Mr Penning's point about impartiality being central to BBC's ethos but notes that, in practice, local radio stations like Radio Humberside are often more impartial than national programmes.
Colum Eastwood
SDLP
Foyle
Mr Eastwood criticises the announcement affecting Radio Foyle by pointing out that it is stripping away morning programming to save £420,000 while BBC Northern Ireland has a budget of £55 million. He argues this move goes against what its charter says about providing local people with access to local news.
Mr Carter suggests that service licences under which BBC Local Radio operates are vague and lack obligations requiring it to be specifically local, advocating for Ofcom to have more teeth in enforcing the BBC's charter during the mid-term review of the corporation.
Dean Russell
Con
Watford
Mr Russell agrees with Mr Penning regarding the importance of Three Counties Radio and its impact during critical times such as the pandemic, praising it for providing a voice to local communities.
Hayes and Harlington
I speak not only in my capacity as secretary of the National Union of Journalists parliamentary group, but to represent my constituents. The NUJ has circulated a briefing to all Members of Parliament who have expressed an interest in local radio. I will refer to elements of it because it sets what the right hon. Member for Hemel Hempstead (Sir Mike Penning) said in context.
I congratulate the right hon. Gentleman on securing the debate. It is interesting that on this particular subject we have come together over the years on a cross-party basis to exert an influence on the BBC as best we can. Our debates in this House have exerted an influence: hon. Members who have been around for a while will remember previous debates in which we have fended off onslaughts on BBC radio.
Let me put our concerns on the record—I hope the BBC is listening. The current plans mean that most of the afternoon and evening output will be shared. Overall, BBC local staffing is expected to reduce by 48 posts. After 2 pm on weekdays, the BBC will produce 18 afternoon programmes across England. Local stations will be forced to share information. What will that do? Exactly as the right hon. Gentleman says, it will seriously diminish a service that is highly valued by listeners and plays a role for all in underpinning local democracy by holding us to account and reporting on what is happening— not just with MPs, but with local councils and local agencies.
As the right hon. Gentleman says, there is example after example of local BBC stations providing a conduit of information during crisis after crisis. From weather crises and covid to accidents and other unfortunate incidents, they provide the information people rely on.
Maldon
The speaker congratulates the Member for Hemel Hempstead on obtaining this debate and acknowledges the importance of BBC local radio, particularly during the covid pandemic. He emphasises that BBC local radio provides essential community services and is trusted by listeners, especially in providing news to elderly people who rely less on online sources. John Whittingdale criticises the decision to redirect funding from radio to online news and expresses concern over the reduction in local content due to a regional network format. He also suggests that the BBC should support local news provision through schemes such as the Local Democracy Reporting Service rather than competing with commercial providers.
Richard Foord
Lib Dem
Honiton and Sidmouth
The speaker supports John Whittingdale's comments, emphasising the importance of programmes like Angela Kalwaites' show on BBC Radio Devon for connecting elderly constituents to their local faith communities. He argues that the proposed changes would disproportionately impact the most vulnerable members of society.
Rachael Maskell
Lab Co-op
York Central
The BBC's current proposal for centralising its operations is fundamentally wrong. The organisation should instead focus on localism and devolution, which align with the direction our country is moving towards. By decentralising decision-making and empowering local teams to innovate and serve their communities better, the BBC can retain its connection to people across different regions. Currently facing significant cuts in local radio broadcasting hours from 105 to just 47, Radio York exemplifies how important these stations are for breaking news and community support during crises like floods or pandemics. The BBC must regain confidence in its mission by listening to communities and experts rather than centralising decision-making processes.
John Redwood
Con
Wokingham
I entirely agree with the defence of localism by my colleague and urge the BBC to listen to local people. I criticise the centralised planning at the BBC which distorts views on devolution and imposes phony regional groupings instead of truly local radio services. The BBC must understand it is out of touch, truncating conversations and debates and not allowing a wide range of views. Local radio should serve its community's needs without being forced into unnecessary mergers or reductions.
Grahame Morris
Lab
Easington
I congratulate the right hon. Member for securing the debate and express concerns about proposed cuts to BBC local radio services. I highlight that 5.7 million people rely on these services, especially in rural areas and among older demographics. Local radio combats social isolation, providing comfort and information during crises like Storm Arwen or the pandemic. The NUJ has raised issues regarding digital exclusion and lack of suitable offline alternatives for those who cannot access digital services due to various reasons. Cuts to local radio are compounded by declines in local newspapers and the BBC's digital first strategy impacting local coverage. Investment should not come at the expense of valued local services.
Robin Walker
Con
Worcester
Welcomed the debate and highlighted the importance of BBC local radio in providing genuine localism, democratic scrutiny, and detailed information for specific regions. He mentioned his experience engaging with local BBC stations while serving as a Minister and stressed the need to protect and enhance funding for local radio. Walker also discussed how local radio is crucial during emergencies like floods, school closures, and other disruptions, and he called for the continuation of evening programmes after lunchtime to maintain quality democratic debate.
Martin Vickers
Con
Brigg and Immingham
The cuts proposed by the BBC to local radio programmes have led to public backlash, as listeners rely on these stations for news, information and companionship. The digital-first strategy involves shared programming between regional stations and could undermine local journalism, as each station will only have an average of two journalists compared to five or six currently. This move risks alienating vulnerable communities who may not be digitally connected. The BBC’s changes also threaten the role of local radio in supporting community organisations and charities. Vickers calls on the BBC to reconsider these proposals.
Local radio plays a vital role in connecting communities by providing trusted news and support for those who might be lonely or isolated. BBC Three Counties Radio, for example, balances holding local figures accountable while ensuring accurate information reaches the public. Local radio also fosters career opportunities within the industry and maintains the human connection through real community stories. Dean Russell highlights the importance of local radio in times of crisis like during the pandemic when it provided reassurance to listeners. He warns that centralised decisions made without proper consultation will harm local broadcasting.
Anna Firth
Con
Southend West
Ms Firth praised BBC Essex for its community spirit and role in local democracy, highlighting its coverage of the Christmas lights switch-on event. She emphasised the importance of local radio in providing valuable news coverage and holding MPs accountable through interviews that are 'searching'. Ms Firth also noted the radio's sensitivity during tragic events like the murder of Sir David, and celebrated how BBC Essex honours community heroes such as Jill Allen-King. Additionally, she pointed out BBC Essex's significance for football fans who rely on it to hear about Southend United matches since they are not televised. Concerned by proposed changes, Ms Firth highlighted demographic statistics showing over 2 million people tune in exclusively to local radio, with a majority being aged 50 and above. She urged the BBC to consider these elderly listeners' reliance on local media for news, entertainment, and comfort, especially those who do not go online for news content.
Andy Carter
Lab
Warrington South
Local radio provides companionship, news, information and entertainment in a unique way. It is about the voice that emerges from a speaker, talking one-to-one with the listener. BBC local radio has a special place on the dial as it connects with listeners through authentic accents and words understood only locally. Concerned about management plans to regionalise programming content after 2 pm and share programmes over weekends which may undermine the relationship between BBC and its local audiences. Acknowledges work of BBC teams creating local content for Radio Merseyside and Radio Manchester, but worries about loss of distinctive local programmes. Urges Minister to read a report by John Myers on improving value for licence fee payers through better services. Raises concerns over reduced regulation and quotas proposed by Ofcom, arguing they undermine public service broadcasting principles.
Nigel Evans
Con
Ribble Valley
Expresses appreciation for Radio Lancashire, particularly praising Graham Liver and his team's broadcast from the Speaker’s Rooms on Lancashire Day. Hopes to welcome them back next year but jokes about avoiding an early 7 am slot.
Duncan Baker
Con
North Norfolk
Local BBC radio is essential and beloved by the constituents in North Norfolk. The BBC estimates that 58% of its local radio listeners are over 55 years old, with a total of 148,000 listeners tuning into BBC Radio Norfolk every week. Duncan Baker emphasises the importance of local radio to people from all age groups and backgrounds, highlighting how it provides invaluable information and support for constituents. He expresses concern about proposed changes such as combined drive programmes and the elimination of local weekend breakfast shows, which he believes will weaken the local product. Duncan also worries about the impact on regional print press due to the dominance of BBC services.
James Wild
Con
North West Norfolk
The BBC’s plan to reduce local content on weekdays and weekends after specific times is concerning. James Wild highlights the importance of local radio in fostering community identity, especially during the pandemic. He criticises the proposed cuts for diluting local programming with wider regional content, which he argues does not meet listeners' expectations. He also points out that Radio Norfolk reaches 147,000 people weekly and emphasises the need for more localized content, particularly for remote rural areas. Wild mentions specific beloved programmes such as 'Treasure Quest' and 'Essex Quest', arguing their discontinuation would be a significant loss to listeners. Furthermore, he raises concerns over the impact on local employment in journalism and the potential of commercial providers being crowded out by the BBC's online shift.
Barnsley South
The BBC is a cornerstone of Britain’s creative economy, providing round-the-clock news, education, entertainment and culture. The debate highlighted the importance of local radio in communities across England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. It reaches nearly 6 million people and provides vital local news updates, arts programming, and community connection for those at risk of digital exclusion.
Diana R. Johnson
Lab
Kingston upon Hull North and Cottingham
My hon. Friend Stephanie Peacock highlighted the importance of BBC local radio to communities, questioning the impact of the BBC's proposals on staff numbers in her area. She suggested that if similar cuts were applied across all 39 stations, it could result in a loss of around 200 jobs.
Paul Scully
Con
Sutton and Cheam
The BBC is a great national institution that has played a vital role in informing, educating and entertaining audiences since its creation. Local services are key to the BBC's public service remit and include providing local content through local radio, which remains highly valued by listeners across various regions of the UK. The debate highlighted concerns about proposed changes to local radio output, including cuts announced last week for Northern Ireland and elsewhere in England, which have caused significant reactions among stakeholders. Scully emphasised that commercial local news providers are worried about the impact these changes might have on their market competition, but the BBC's charter mandates it to consider such impacts while avoiding unnecessary adverse effects on competition unless essential for its mission and public purposes. The Government is considering regulatory measures under the mid-term review and working with Ofcom to assess concerns raised by local radio stakeholders and ensure the BBC remains accountable in its service delivery.
Grahame Morris
Lab
Easington
Asked for clarification on the current position of Ofcom. He wanted to know if there is any intention to put pressure on the BBC to respect its obligations under the charter, given concerns about proposed changes in local radio services.
Rachael Maskell
Lab/Co-op
York Central
Proposed a suggestion for the BBC to engage in reforms of its own, possibly through partnerships with universities and community groups, to strengthen its position locally while ensuring broader reach and capacity. She questioned whether the Government would support such initiatives if they could help local radio maintain relevance.
Andy Carter
Lab
Warrington South
Noted that Sunday mornings are a peak listening time for many stations, questioning why regional sharing is planned during this period when it should be prioritised to serve as local content.
Critiques the proposed changes to BBC local radio, arguing that they are botched and will harm communities. Emphasises the importance of local radio in times of crisis, such as during a large explosion and fire in his constituency where Three Counties Radio provided crucial information. He also notes that these radio stations build trust with listeners through their consistent presence and reliability.
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