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Migrant Crossings: Role of the Military
18 January 2022
Lead MP
James Heappey
Debate Type
Ministerial Statement
Tags
Migrants & BordersDefenceForeign Affairs
Other Contributors: 35
At a Glance
James Heappey raised concerns about migrant crossings: role of the military in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.
How the Debate Unfolded
MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said:
Government Statement
Unacceptable numbers of people continue to make dangerous channel crossings, highlighted by the tragic deaths in November. The Government has appointed the Ministry of Defence to take operational primacy for cross-channel counter-migration operations, enhancing the role of the Royal Navy in planning, coordination, and delivery. Over the past year, Defence has provided support through military aid to civilian authorities, including surveillance aircraft, additional accommodation, and planning expertise. Details on how the MOD will deliver these changes are being finalised. The aim is to intercept all vessels transporting illegal migrants before or upon landing to prevent illegal entry into the UK, emphasising safety and strategic alignment with Home Office goals.
Tobias Ellwood
Con
Bexleyheath and Crayford
Question
Praises the armed forces but raises concerns about mission creep, questioning why the Navy is being drawn into this issue when it's not an acute emergency. Asks who will pay for this mission, what success looks like, and how long it will last. Criticises the strategy as insufficient to solve migration issues.
Minister reply
Acknowledges that ships are deployed all over the world with capacity to support border security. Argues deploying armed forces for robust border protection is appropriate. Emphasises the role of deterrence against sub-threshold weapons of competition. Success criteria include preventing anyone from landing in the UK on their own terms until the deterrent effect collapses the cross-channel route. Funding will continue through existing multi-agency efforts under Royal Navy command.
John Healey
Lab
Rawmarsh and Conisbrough
Question
The Government is desperate to distract attention from accusations about the Prime Minister lying and partying in Downing Street. The Home Secretary has been failing for two years as the number of cross-channel migrants has tripled. Will naval vessels be deployed? Will sonic weapons or drones be used? Who will pay the military’s bills?
Minister reply
The plan is not a MACA request; it involves Navy taking primacy, using all Government maritime assets under command and control to create a more robust response at sea. No power for pushback into another country's sovereign waters exists. Costs lie where they fall but Treasury will be consulted for novel capabilities.
Question
Welcomes the military taking control of coordinating assets to manage migrant crossings. Will ships have the power to take people back to France or do they enter UK processing system?
Minister reply
No power exists for entering another country’s waters to return people. The aim is a more robust response at sea, ensuring people enter a process in the UK that may result in removal if they should not be here.
Dave Doogan
SNP
Angus and Perthshire Glens
Question
Concerned about operational and moral implications of militarizing the situation. Asks for admiralty’s analysis on significant maritime operations and whether it represents a military operation inappropriate for civilian crisis.
Minister reply
People coming from France are not seeking sanctuary; they want to be in UK. MOD has a role in robustly protecting borders against non-military threats.
Mark Francois
Con
Rayleigh and Wickford
Question
Welcomes announcement of military taking over from Border Force, requests operational name, units involved, and clarifies that pushback or sonic weapons will not be used.
Minister reply
Operational name is Operation Isotrope; units include batch 1 offshore patrol vessels. Role involves command and control to provide robust response at sea.
Luke Pollard
Lab Co-op
Plymouth Sutton and Devonport
Question
The Minister said that the Royal Navy will not use sonic weapons, but long-range acoustic weapons are already fitted to Border Force vessels. As the Royal Navy has assumed operational control of Border Force, will he state that no Border Force sonic weapons will be used for migrant crossings? Will he also publish a rule of engagement for using sonic weapons against civilians?
Minister reply
I take the hon. Gentleman’s point. If Border Force vessels are fitted with a capability that the Royal Navy commander feels is inappropriate for use, he will not direct that it is used. That is his judgment. The hon. Gentleman, as the proud MP of the Royal Navy in Devonport, probably appreciates that in the MOD we deal with operational mission command and the Royal Navy uses its judgment to bring to bear what it thinks is best. I trust Rear Admiral Utley entirely to make the right decisions in that regard. I will be honest with the hon. Gentleman: I am not entirely clear about the custom for publishing rules of engagement.
Andrew Bowie
Con
West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine
Question
Can my hon. Friend guarantee that no resource—be that manpower or asset—will be removed from another theatre to which an already overstretched Royal Navy is currently deployed, carrying out its primary role of protecting the UK and its interests, and those of our allies around the world?
Minister reply
I can. Commander UK Strike Force is a UK-based two-star commander—I suspect that my hon. Friend, as a former Navy man, knows that—and the ships mentioned as possibly having utility in this context are already committed to home waters.
Question
Well, there we have it. Yesterday, No. 10 was briefing that this is the new tough approach to migrants, and today the Minister comes to the Dispatch Box and says that he has not got a clue what the plan is or what is proposed. He mentioned deployment of assets. We had nine offshore patrol vessels until 2019, when HMS Clyde was decommissioned; others are committed overseas, including in the Pacific, and in home waters for tasks such as fisher protection. So what assets are there? There are not any.
May I check two things? First, will the Navy abide by the UN conventions on people in distress at sea? Secondly, the Minister said that Rear Admiral Utley will answer to the Defence Secretary, so has the MOD taken over control of Border Force and its operation, with the Home Secretary having no role? If so, that is a huge kick in the teeth for the Home Secretary.
Minister reply
First, the OPV fleet is well deployed around the world. As the right hon. Gentleman knows, Trent is in Gibraltar having just got back from autumn in the gulf of Guinea; Medway is in the Caribbean; Forth is in the Falklands; and Tamar and Spey are in the south Pacific and far east. Further, three batch 1 OPVs continue and are routinely deployed in home waters.
I am disappointed that the right hon. Gentleman felt it necessary to ask whether the men and women of the Royal Navy would still feel bound by their compulsion under the safety of life at sea convention. Of course they would. The Chief of the Defence Staff is a sailor, and Rear Admiral Utley is obviously a sailor, and they have been clear throughout that military involvement is about delivering a robust plan, but they will not endanger life at sea.
The right hon. Gentleman asked about how this is all reflected in Government policy and ownership of policy. I reflect back to him that Rear Admiral Utley is a sailor working within the MOD for a part of our border protection that has been placed into the hands of the Royal Navy. He clearly reports through his chain of command to the Secretary of State for Defence, but that is not the totality of the Government’s migration policy nor the totality of the role of protecting our borders.
Desmond Swayne
Con
New Forest West
Question
Did Operation Sophia in the Mediterranean not teach us that increased efficiency of interception leads to an increased number of attempted crossings? This policy will have the reverse effect of that intended, won’t it?
Minister reply
No, I do not think that is the case. There was a key difference with Op Sophia, and that is what happened when people landed on the European continent and what EU nations did with them thereafter.
Diane Abbott
Ind
Hackney North and Stoke Newington
Question
The Minister will be aware that in 2019 two Navy patrol vessels were deployed in the channel to deal with channel crossings. Yet they intercepted no boats and it cost the taxpayer £780,000. What will be different this time?
Minister reply
It is unclear whether the right hon. Lady is reading from Hansard because that is exactly the question asked by the Front-Bench spokesman, which I have answered already.
Mark Pritchard
Con
The Wrekin
Question
Behind the criminal gangs often lie the root causes of disease, famine, poverty, poor governance, conflict and war. We have heard reference today to Syria, Iraq and Libya. My hon. Friend mentioned the Sahel. What discussions has he had with his defence counterpart in the French Government about President Macron’s decision to withdraw the 5,000 troops based in the Sahel, which of course will stretch UK armed forces further in that important region?
Minister reply
We speak to our French counterparts regularly, and the Sahel is a frequent topic of conversation. The French would argue that they are going through a transition from one operation to another—from Barkhane to Takuba—but that is clearly a decision for France.
Alistair Carmichael
Lib Dem
Orkney and Shetland
Question
I welcome what the Minister says about not using sonic weapons—an idea that was described by a Home Office source in the press today as “f***ng bonkers”. When the Home Office is saying that your idea can be classified as that, you have to think you have taken a wrong turn in your planning somewhere. May I press the Minister on the relationship between the Royal Navy and the Marines, on the one hand, and UK Border Force? He tells the House—I welcome the assurance—that the Royal Navy will not be engaged in pushing back boats with refugees in them, but that leaves open the door that the UK Border Force might still do that. In that case, how can he possibly say that operational primacy sits with the Royal Navy?
Minister reply
In answer to the right hon. Gentleman’s suggestion that there may be some disagreement between Departments, I can only reflect that my great friends the Under-Secretaries of State for the Home Department, my hon. Friends the Members for Corby (Tom Pursglove) and for Torbay (Kevin Foster), work with me all the time.
Question
Does the Minister consider that use of the Royal Navy will reduce the number of migrants who land in the United Kingdom?
Minister reply
I believe that it could, as part of a wider system that is under development.
Chris Bryant
Lab
Rhondda and Ogmore
Question
The Minister calls it Operation Isotrope—not Isotope—which means having properties that apply in all directions. That pretty much sums it up. The honest truth is that it is Operation Red Meat, and it has no beef in it whatever. Nothing has changed. There is no plan—he admits that himself. The Government have completely failed to tackle the real issue, which many of our constituents worry about, and the people who bear the brunt of all this danger are those who are being illegally trafficked, many of them in miserable situations.
Minister reply
First, there are a lot of questions coming from the Opposition about the incompleteness of a plan. I would just reflect that Labour is routinely and continually silent on what it would do to ensure that our borders are protected and illegal migration is stopped.
Andrew Murrison
Con
South West Wiltshire
Question
Asked about the timeline for the MOD's plan and when command will transfer from Home Office to Ministry of Defence.
Minister reply
The MOD’s plan involves bringing all maritime inventory under Commander UK Strike Force by the end of the month. A wider strategy is being developed but cannot be fully disclosed at this stage.
Question
Critiqued the Minister's approach to addressing desperation among migrants and Human Rights Watch's condemnation of treatment in Calais.
Minister reply
Acknowledged the issue but did not address specific points about France’s safety or Human Rights Act reforms.
Edward Leigh
Con
Gainsborough
Question
Questioned the effectiveness of using Royal Navy to intercept migrants without addressing root causes, such as pushback policies and legislation changes.
Minister reply
Acknowledged the need for comprehensive policy reforms but did not provide specific details on future steps.
Ian Lavery
Lab
Blyth and Ashington
Question
Asked about consideration of sonic weapons against migrants crossing illegally and clarification on Operation Red Meat.
Minister reply
The use of sonic weapons is under review but the Royal Navy will not employ them. The operation remains under their command.
John Hayes
Con
South Holland and The Deepings
Question
Called for assurances on offshore processing, deportation policies, and Human Rights Act reforms.
Minister reply
Reassured the MP that a wider policy exposition will be provided soon addressing all concerns raised.
Question
Questioned the ethical implications of involving Royal Navy in pushbacks, citing their ethos and previous statements by Minister.
Minister reply
The Royal Navy will not threaten innocent lives or engage in pushback operations as it contradicts their ethics.
Bob Blackman
Con
Harrow East
Question
Inquired about discussions with French military on intercepting boats before they leave France.
Minister reply
Discussions are ongoing but details remain under Home Secretary's purview.
Question
Suggested the announcement is politically motivated and questioned armed forces' stance on being used for political purposes.
Minister reply
Emphasised the national security aspect of securing borders and the military’s pride in supporting government priorities.
Question
Critiqued the effectiveness of the operation without returning migrants to France, suggesting it could incentivise traffickers.
Minister reply
Reiterated that French permission for returns is not available and denied incentive claims.
Angus MacNeil
SNP
Western Isles
Question
The MP welcomes the announcement but criticises the lack of planning and expresses concern about terrorist risks associated with small boats crossing the channel. He asks for an assessment of these risks.
Minister reply
The Minister states that the Royal Navy will not directly intercept ships, preferring to use better-suited vessels for interception. He justifies the military's involvement due to national security threats posed by illegal immigration and the potential exploitation by adversaries.
Martin Vickers
Con
Brigg and Immingham
Question
The MP asks for a timeline regarding when robust policy will be in place and the Navy involved, noting constituents' support for ending cross-channel illegal immigration.
Minister reply
The Minister indicates that plans are very imminent and likely within the next few weeks.
Jeremy Corbyn
Ind
Islington North
Question
Critics the plan's inhumanity, calling for European-wide agreements on asylum support and addressing root causes of migration.
Minister reply
The Minister rejects accusations of a lack of compassion but argues that criminal gangs exploit desperate individuals, justifying a robust deterrent approach.
Joanna Cherry
SNP
Edinburgh South
Question
Considers claims to the UK asylum system from France as a long-term solution and asks about discussions with the Home Office.
Minister reply
The Minister states that the French Minister of Interior has rejected such proposals.
Andy McDonald
Lab
Middlesbrough and Thornaby East
Question
Critiques the plan as embarrassing and nationalistic, citing Pope Francis's criticism.
Minister reply
The Minister argues that their policy addresses root causes through international aid and military efforts for stability.
Carmarthen East and Dinefwr
Question
Asks about the Border Force's policy regarding small boat capsizes during pushback operations.
Minister reply
The Minister clarifies that while the Navy will not use pushback tactics, the Royal Marines or Border Force might under certain conditions.
Andrew Gwynne
Ind
Gorton and Denton
Question
Criticises the effectiveness of past funding to France and calls for more focus on combating criminal gangs.
Minister reply
The Minister responds that life sentences for people smugglers are being introduced, emphasising the need to address organised crime networks.
Martin Docherty
Lab
West Dunbartonshire
Question
Concerned about private sector involvement in Operation Isotrope and its potential impact on contracted services.
Minister reply
The Minister assures that leased platforms will be used, not involving large conglomerates like Serco or Capita.
Patrick Grady
SNP
West Scotland
Question
The MP questioned the overreliance on military intervention and inquired about whether costs will be shifted to other budgets such as overseas development assistance or NATO contributions.
Minister reply
The Minister stated that the Government's willingness to utilise military resources demonstrates their professionalism and commitment, especially during crises like the pandemic. He also mentioned the role of the Navy’s command and control capabilities in coordinating maritime assets effectively.
Rachael Maskell
Lab Co-op
York Central
Question
The MP pointed out a threefold increase in migrants entering the UK by dangerous means last year, highlighting that safe routes diminish illegal activities. She questioned why the Government was exacerbating the situation without clear objectives.
Minister reply
The Minister acknowledged the existence of multiple safe routes for migration and hinted at more comprehensive plans to be unveiled within a few weeks.
Jim Shannon
DUP
Strangford
Question
The MP thanked the Minister for his responses, noted an increase in channel crossings by migrants and expressed concern about the message sent by deploying military vessels. He suggested coordinating with civilian companies as a potential alternative.
Minister reply
The Minister agreed that there are more suitable vessels for transferring people from boats than Navy or Border Force cutters and mentioned plans to contract additional such vessels under naval command.
Shadow Comment
Tobias Ellwood
Shadow Comment
The Defence Committee’s recent review of the Royal Navy concluded it is too small to meet current commitments globally. The introduction of a new task in coordinating migrant crossings will exacerbate existing challenges, raising concerns about mission creep and resource allocation. Questions were raised regarding funding, success criteria, duration, and the broader strategy needed to address migration issues. The shadow criticised the approach as insufficient and urged for a more comprehensive strategy focusing on breaking up criminal gangs and supporting governance in countries of origin.
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