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Stop and Search
19 June 2023
Lead MP
Suella Braverman
Debate Type
Ministerial Statement
Tags
Crime & Law Enforcement
Other Contributors: 27
At a Glance
Suella Braverman raised concerns about stop and search in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.
How the Debate Unfolded
MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said:
Government Statement
Suella Braverman made a statement on the police's use of stop and search. She emphasised that stop and search is crucial in reducing violent crime, particularly knife crime. According to statistics provided, black people account for about 3% of the population but almost a third of under-25s killed by knives are black. Since 2019, over 40,000 weapons have been taken off streets and more than 220,000 arrests followed a stop and search. Braverman highlighted the effectiveness of serious violence reduction orders (SVROs) that allow police to conduct stop and searches on individuals repeatedly carrying weapons. She also announced plans to amend the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 code A for clearer guidelines and mandate data collection on stop and search, aiming to reduce disparities in its use.
Mike Kane
Lab
Worsley and Eccles South
Question
In a community where knife crime is prevalent, how can the Minister ensure stop and search is used effectively without exacerbating racial tensions?
Minister reply
The minister emphasised the importance of transparency, accountability, and community engagement to build trust. She mentioned trials for serious violence reduction orders which empower police to conduct searches on individuals repeatedly carrying weapons, reducing such incidents in areas like Merseyside.
Steve McCabe
Lab
Birmingham Selly Oak
Question
What measures will the Government take to address disparities in stop and search practices?
Minister reply
The minister stated that the Government is working closely with police forces to improve strategic leadership and direction on the use of stop and search powers. She mentioned trialling a more sophisticated approach to calculating disparity ratios, showing significant reductions compared to traditional methods.
Felicity Buchan
Con
Worcester
Question
How will data collection be improved to ensure fairness in the use of stop and search powers?
Minister reply
The minister confirmed that the Government will amend the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 code A for clearer guidelines on communication when suspicionless powers are used. She also mandated annual data requirements, posting online to enable accountability.
Yvette Cooper
Lab
Pontefract, Castleford and Knottingley
Question
Knife crime has risen significantly. The Home Secretary’s statement is inadequate. She focuses on young black men but ignores other victims like white people despite their minority status among knife crime victims. The inspectorate noted that police cannot explain why stop and search disproportionately targets certain groups due to drug possession searches, which are lower among black people than whites.
Minister reply
The Home Secretary acknowledges the importance of fair use of stop and search but argues that the focus should be on reducing murder rates for black individuals who are four times more likely to be murdered than white people. She also mentions a reduction in complaints about individual stop and searches, improved training on legal and procedural justice, increased confidence levels, a record number of police officers, 100,000 weapons seized since 2019, and falling crime rates.
David Davis
Con
Goole and Pocklington
Question
How does the Home Secretary's proposal today take on board the 'fundamental reset' of the Met’s use of stop-and-search powers recommended by the Casey report?
Minister reply
The Government supports fair use of stop and search to fight violent crime. Today’s announcement includes more reporting, data collection, accountability improvements, increased scrutiny, and a fall in complaints.
Diana R. Johnson
Lab
Kingston upon Hull North
Question
In 2021, the Home Affairs Committee inquiry found increased racial disparity in stop-and-search powers against black individuals compared to previous findings. The MP requested evidence of an independent and comprehensive study on the efficacy of stop-and-search tactics and a commitment to undertake an equality impact assessment.
Minister reply
The Minister is trialling a more sophisticated approach to calculating disparity within the Metropolitan Police Service, which demonstrates significantly reduced disparity ratios for black individuals compared with traditional methods. This advanced study provides an emerging evidence base upon which policy will be made.
Question
The MP sought confirmation that the statement is part of a wider strategy to tackle underlying causes and problems, as well as the use of weapons in violent crime.
Minister reply
The Minister confirmed that stop and search is one tool among many including increased police resources, continued funding for violence reduction units, knife crime prevention orders, and working intensively with all agencies to prioritise such crime.
Diane Abbott
Ind
Hackney North
Question
As a black mother herself, the MP questioned how the statement addresses long-standing concerns of black mothers about the use of suspicionless powers and its fit with the Casey review.
Minister reply
The Minister emphasised that stop and search is fundamentally about saving lives and preventing crime. She cited positive feedback from Manchester's Chief Constable on increased use correlating with reduced firearms discharges and complaints.
Desmond Swayne
Con
New Forest West
Question
The MP inquired about the number of repeat offences among 220,000 arrests and how many resulted in custodial sentences.
Minister reply
The Minister mentioned the pilot of serious violence reduction orders for individuals with knife-related convictions, giving police greater powers to intervene should they breach their order.
Dawn Butler
Lab
Brent East
Question
Quoting Maya Angelou and questioning the effectiveness of a tool that yields a 9% success rate in finding weapons or items linked to burglary, the MP asked why a public health approach is not being used.
Minister reply
The Minister disagreed with the characterization, highlighting that stop and search resulted in significant arrests last year and helped remove weapons from streets. She emphasised the multidimensional, multi-agency approach with violence reduction units and safer streets funding.
Question
Concerned about under-10-year-olds being stopped and searched improperly in the past, the MP requested assurances that this has changed.
Minister reply
The Minister clarified legal limits around stop-and-search usage, noting improvements in training and the use of body-worn video footage to improve accountability and transparency.
Munira Wilson
Lib Dem
Twickenham
Question
Highlighting increased knife crime alongside expanded suspicionless stop-and-search powers, the MP questioned why a press release-based policy was favoured over properly resourced community policing.
Minister reply
The Minister stated that tackling serious violence is an absolute priority with strategies combining tough law enforcement and long-term engagement to steer young people away from violence. She highlighted Operation Sceptre's success in seizing offensive weapons.
Question
Suggesting the use of knife wands for more effective searches, the MP asked if such tools would be considered by police forces.
Minister reply
The Minister clarified that serious violence reduction orders are aimed at providing a targeted tool for over-18s with convictions for knife-related offences and could enable quicker interventions.
Question
Inquiring about the percentage of stop-and-search operations currently filmed by body-worn cameras, the MP sought more detail.
Minister reply
The Minister noted that the use of body-worn video has increased significantly across police forces and is a key element in transparency and accountability.
Question
Emphasising responsible usage, the MP encouraged MPs who think stop-and-search tactics are wrong to speak with officers delivering tragic news.
Minister reply
The Minister echoed that frontline partners report back that when used lawfully, proportionately and reasonably, stop and search is a vital tool in saving lives.
Stella Creasy
Lab Co-op
Walthamstow
Question
Frankly, I hope that my residents in Walthamstow are not listening to this statement, because it is just plain offensive to those of us at the heart of this challenge. Just a few weeks ago, I got up to ask the Prime Minister about a 16-year-old boy murdered in my community outside his school, and another 16-year-old in court charged with that murder. This weekend, last night, I was sat with residents, having an emergency residents’ meeting because we had had a serious shooting in my community—another young man, critical but stable in hospital. None of my residents would dispute the role that stop and search can play, but we are all arguing—begging, pleading—for this Government to recognise the epidemic of youth violence in our country. If the Home Secretary cares about these young people, as she says she does, she should invest in their future. Under her Government, investment in youth services has plummeted from £158 per head to just £37.
Minister reply
I am very proud of what this Government have achieved when it comes to law and order. We have falling crime; we have a record number of police officers—ever, in the history of policing; this financial year alone, we have put over £100 million into tackling serious violence; and since 2019, 136,000 violent offences have been prevented in places operating Government initiatives. That is thousands of lives saved and thousands of violent incidents prevented.
Question
Despite the Government’s efforts to free up the time of frontline police officers by reducing the amount of bureaucracy and paperwork, which takes up more and more of their time, officers often say to me that this increases year on year and so reduces the amount of time they can spend on the beat. What steps are the Government taking to cut out the paperwork and free up frontline time to keep our communities safe?
Minister reply
My hon. Friend raises a very good point. One of the big programmes of work that I am leading at the Home Office relates to freeing up police time and reducing bureaucracy, so that police officers are unencumbered to fight crime and respond to the public’s priorities.
Clapham and Brixton Hill
Question
The Minister talked about common-sense policing, but I have to ask what sense she applied when making a statement about suspicionless stop and search while making no reference to the well-evidenced racist discriminatory use of it. Does she not think we should be focusing on solutions that would actually make communities like mine safer, like reversing education cuts, ending school exclusions, improving mental health services and taking people out of poverty? If she has already said that the police have the powers necessary, why is she arguing that they have greater powers for this particular practice, which actually leads to less confidence in policing?
Minister reply
I do not consider the use of stop and search, when done lawfully, to be racist. What I do consider to be disproportionate and unjustifiable is that black people are four times more likely to be murdered than white people and that young black men are more likely to be victims of crime than young white men.
Dwyfor Meirionnydd
Question
Last year, a response to a freedom of information request revealed that the gap in the stop and search rates between white people and black people was greater in Wales than in England. We do not know the latest rates, however, as the Home Office does not provide regular Wales-specific data on stop-and-search rates by population. Before the Home Secretary pushes for further use of stop and search in Wales, will she commit to regularly publishing Wales-specific data so we can properly understand the effect of this policy on our communities?
Minister reply
My announcement today is all about increasing the levels of data that are reported by police forces so that we can have a clearer picture of exactly how these important powers are being used.
Tan Dhesi
Lab
Slough
Question
Across our country, including in my Slough constituency, knife crime is up by 70% compared with seven years ago, but, shockingly, there is only a 1% success rate in terms of the policies of the Home Secretary. She is today asking the police to ramp up the use of stop and search but, as I have said, in terms of the conviction rate, there is only a 1% success rate. Meanwhile, we have had funding to youth centres slashed—decimated—over the last decade, so is the Home Secretary embarrassed by the failures of Conservative Government policies over the last 13 years, and can she explain why black people are, despairingly, nine times more likely to be stopped and searched than everybody else?
Minister reply
I listen to frontline police officers and I look at the data when I make policy, and the police tell us that stop and search is a vital tool to crack down on criminals and to protect communities. Sir Mark Rowley, earlier this year, said he had countless examples of offenders being discovered to have dangerous weapons, tools for burglary or drugs on their person that have been uncovered by his officers being in the right place at the right time.
Florence Eshalomi
Lab Co-op
Vauxhall and Camberwell Green
Question
The framing of knife crime as a black issue is frankly lazy and a dangerous narrative. We need to work with all our communities to understand the core issues around the root cause of crime, and why some of our young people feel that they need to carry a knife. Some of them are victims. I want all my Vauxhall constituents to feel safe and go about their daily business, but stop and search on its own is a blunt tool. The Independent Office for Police Conduct found that a single black boy was searched 60 times—60—between the ages of 14 and 16, leaving him fearful of the police. No Member of the House will think that is an effective use of police time, so can the Home Secretary outline what measures she is taking to end what the IOPC found is the “disproportionate impact” of stop and search on black, Asian and minority ethnic people?
Minister reply
As I said, it is vital that stop and search is used judiciously, carefully, reasonably and proportionately, and that there is effective community engagement and scrutiny. There are today more layers of scrutiny and challenge than ever before on the use of that particular power—internal supervision, first and foremost; internal feedback on each stop and search, depending on the force; stop and search scrutiny panels, chaired either by a member of the community, or by police and crime commissioners;
Debbie Abrahams
Lab
Oldham East and Saddleworth
Question
Will the Home Secretary commit to an independent evaluation of her proposals, with particular emphasis on the impact on confidence in policing among marginalised minority communities and on community relations?
Minister reply
What I hear from chief constables is that there has been much needed awareness of the impact on different communities. Therefore, in many forces, there has been an improvement in the way outreach has been conducted, and much more respect with communities and to communities that may be affected by the use of these powers.
Kim Johnson
Lab
Liverpool Riverside
Question
Institutional racism is a fact. It is also a fact that stop and search is not used proportionately or sensibly. Liberty has said that stop-and-search powers are “ineffective” and “discriminatory”, disproportionately impacting on black communities. These powers will worsen existing divisions between police and communities when public trust and confidence in the police is at a serious low. So can the Home Secretary confirm what evidence she has that ramped up stop and search will tackle serious violent crime?
Minister reply
In her inspectorate report of 2021, Wendy Williams confirmed that the majority of stop-and-search decisions were based on “reasonable grounds” —that is the legal test. She said that most forces have “good external scrutiny arrangements” and that forces are “better at monitoring” the use of stop and search, compared with previous years.
Ruth Cadbury
Lab
Brentford and Isleworth
Question
Policing by consent depends on trust and confidence in the police. Officers are increasingly stopping law-abiding young people, under the spurious claim that they “smell cannabis” when none has been smoked or is present. And then the police are refusing to provide the necessary receipts and documents to those they have stopped. That failure to follow guidelines is shattering the trust that young people have in the police. What is the Home Secretary doing to address that?
Minister reply
I fundamentally disagree with the hon. Lady’s proposition. Stop and search can be used in the case of drugs and it is largely used in those instances. It is a vital tool in the fight against drug possession and supply and it can prevent young people from falling into the spiral of drugs.
Emma Hardy
Lab
Kingston upon Hull West and Haltemprice
Question
Why on earth does the Home Secretary think it is a good idea, in a free and democratic country, to encourage more section 60 searches, known as suspicionless powers, which allow an individual to be stopped without cause, without need and without reasonable suspicion, instead of adopting a targeted, intelligence-led approach? Is it because of a lack of intelligence in the Home Office?
Minister reply
Simply put, it is because such searches prevent crime and save lives.
Jim Shannon
DUP
Strangford
Question
Welcoming the Secretary of State’s statement, Jim Shannon inquired whether advice to police forces on mainland England and Wales regarding stop and search would be extended to Northern Ireland. Given that the PSNI uses this tool effectively for combatting drug trafficking, seizing lethal weapons, and uncovering criminal activity under high threat levels, he asked if the Home Secretary's guidance would cover them or if she would request her colleague to do so.
Minister reply
Suella Braverman responded by noting that she cannot speak on behalf of the PSNI. However, she highlighted the success of the county lines programme in England and Wales since 2019, which has resulted in over 3,500 closed drug distribution networks (lines), more than 10,000 arrests, and nearly 6,000 safeguarding referrals related to drugs.
Shadow Comment
Yvette Cooper
Shadow Comment
Yvette Cooper criticised the Government's response to knife crime as inadequate. Knife crime has increased by nearly 70% compared to seven years ago. She argued that stop and search is an important tool but not a comprehensive strategy to tackle rising violent crimes, especially in suburbs and smaller cities. Cooper highlighted concerns about the disproportionate use of stop and search affecting young black men disproportionately despite them being victims rather than perpetrators more often. She called for better training on de-escalation skills and proper data collection on traffic stops as recommended by inspectorates over several years.
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