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Digital Pound
07 February 2023
Lead MP
Andrew Griffith
Debate Type
Ministerial Statement
Tags
EconomyScience & Technology
Other Contributors: 20
At a Glance
Andrew Griffith raised concerns about digital pound in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.
How the Debate Unfolded
MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said:
Government Statement
The Minister announced that HM Treasury is publishing a consultation paper with the Bank of England to consider the potential role of a digital pound. The statement highlighted how money usage in the UK is evolving, noting the decrease in cash use and the rise of new payment technologies. A central bank digital currency (CBDC), akin to a digital banknote issued by the Bank of England, would complement existing forms of money without replacing them. It aims to ensure public trust, privacy, and data protection while promoting financial inclusion and technological advancement. The consultation will run for four months, inviting detailed technical considerations and market trends analysis.
Chris Leslie
Lab
Notts East
Question
How will the privacy of users be protected in a digital pound system?
Minister reply
The minister emphasised that privacy is paramount. No interest would be paid on a digital pound, and personal data would only be accessible by law enforcement under strict legal conditions.
North East Fife
Question
What measures are in place to protect the public from financial exclusion?
Minister reply
The minister noted that ensuring a digital pound does not exacerbate existing inequalities is crucial. The consultation will explore ways to safeguard against this, including by maintaining access to traditional banking services.
Andrew Bridgen
Con
North West Leics
Question
How does the Government plan to ensure public trust in a digital pound?
Minister reply
Public trust is essential. The minister highlighted that the consultation aims to build this by providing clear information on privacy, security, and the regulatory framework.
Erith and Thamesmead
Question
Asked about public privacy protection, financial exclusion risks, and inconsistencies with crypto policy. Raised concerns about financial inclusion and digital banking's impact on millions of people already cut off from necessary goods and services due to the decline in free access to cash.
Minister reply
Assured that privacy will be embedded in design and addressed in consultation; no risk to ongoing work on financial inclusion or replacement of physical money. Emphasised the importance of preventing tech companies from dominating this space.
Harriett Baldwin
Con
West Worcestershire
Question
Asked if a logical conclusion is that each individual should be able to hold a digital currency account at the Bank of England and earn the Bank rate on their holdings.
Minister reply
Acknowledged the importance of savers getting fair interest rates; mentioned potential opportunities for citizens to have different choices, potentially involving intermediaries other than current banks.
Stewart Hosie
SNP
Constituency not provided
Question
Asked about what problem this CBDC is designed to solve, how it will be regulated if it becomes volatile, and who would pick up the tab for potential losses.
Minister reply
Clarified that a digital pound is different from cryptoassets; £10 in digital pounds will always exchange 1:1 with traditional pounds. Emphasised ongoing consultations to address these questions.
Richard Fuller
Con
North Bedfordshire
Question
Asked if the Minister would consider drafting a financial liberty charter to protect freedoms experienced today, given potential risks from CBDCs.
Minister reply
Acknowledged concerns and assured that any digital pound will not replace physical cash; liberty remains paramount.
Stephen Timms
Lab
East Ham
Question
Asked about plans to tackle the issue of firms setting up blockchain-based financial services in the UK, who leave due to lengthy licensing processes.
Minister reply
Suggested that regulators have a balanced approach; published proposals for regulating cryptoassets. Emphasised importance of effective and timely regulation.
Alun Cairns
Con
West Worcestershire
Question
Digital currencies in a whole range of formats are part of a fast-moving and dynamic sector of an emerging economy. To date, the regulators have struggled to keep up with the skills and capacity to bring about appropriate and effective regulation of the sector. What plans does my hon. Friend have to develop capacity within the regulators to give confidence in the marketplace that the digital pound, as well as other digital currencies, will have confidence among users?
Minister reply
My right hon. Friend makes an important point. To govern is to choose and we ask our regulators to make choices to prioritise. It is one reason why we are looking at reform of long-standing areas, such as the 40-year-old Consumer Credit Act 1974, to see if we can modernise it and make it more fit for purpose, deliver better customer outcomes, and potentially free up the regulatory environment so they can make choices to focus on the new and emerging threats and opportunities that this domain represents.
Chris Bryant
Lab
Rhondda and Ogmore
Question
Further to the question from the Chair of the Treasury Committee, the hon. Member for West Worcestershire (Harriett Baldwin), can the Minister be a bit clearer? Will this be an interest-paying currency, yes or no?
Minister reply
No.
Danny Kruger
Reform
East Wiltshire
Question
I have two concerns. The first is on privacy, which other Members have mentioned. The proposal is that the Bank of England can become your bank. The Minister says the currency will be private but not anonymous, but the reality is that in certain circumstances it could be neither. It should be possible for authorities to observe the transactions of any citizen if they have cause to do so. Will he confirm that? My second anxiety is on the implications for cash. Will the money used through this new digital mechanism require cash to be withdrawn from circulation in exact proportion? If not, his proposal to print new money will be a sort of cryptocurrency quantitative easing with inflationary implications. If cash will be withdrawn in proportion as the digital pound is issued, we are talking about the end of cash are we not? Progressively, the digital coin will replace the use of cash.
Minister reply
I accept that the Command Paper has just been published, but when my hon. Friend has the opportunity, he will be able to look at the detail of the operation of such a scheme, which will reveal that there will be platform intermediaries. People will not have a bank account directly with the Bank of England, except in very narrow circumstances. I understand the concerns, and it is right that we debate the balance between freedoms and our duty to protect citizens from fraud and other things that this House, from time to time, will decide justify the piercing of that veil of privacy.
I want to reassure my hon. Friend on cash. By design, this proposal will not replace cash. From a monetary policy perspective—although that is something, as with all these questions, that Members may respond to during the consultation—it is envisaged that it certainly will not increase money supply, and the one-for-one nature I talked about earlier is important in that regard. To be clear to my hon. Friend, the arbiter of that decision will be individual citizens making the choice as to how they wish to use their money—how they wish to spend it and how they wish to store it.
Lisa Cameron
SNP
Central Ayrshire
Question
The crypto and digital assets all-party parliamentary group, which I chair, greatly welcomes the consultation and the progress being made by the Minister. We are hopeful that a digital pound could enable faster payments and lower cost payments to improve inclusion across the UK. The other issue I wish to raise is international interoperability, in particular with colleagues across the Commonwealth. Will the Minister look at what progress can be made in the realm of collaboration with Commonwealth partners?
Minister reply
I thank the hon. Lady for her question and for her work as chair of the crypto and digital assets APPG. I hope it has been a productive number of weeks with the consultation paper on the regulation of cryptoassets and today’s joint consultation paper with the Treasury. The APPG does good work in educating and providing opportunities for Members of this House to engage with this rapidly growing area, which is important to financial inclusion and ensuring that we design in financial inclusion at the start.
The hon. Lady makes a very important point about international interoperability. About 90% of all member countries of the Bank for International Settlements surveyed are looking at doing something similar, so it is right that we engage. We have a strong position of leadership in the financial community, as well as an adherence to the highest quality regulatory standards. That is absolutely in keeping with what we are trying to achieve today.
Anna Firth
Con
Welling
Question
I absolutely welcome the Minister’s statement and the commitment from him and the Government to keep the UK at the forefront of innovation in financial services. I heard his answer to the hon. Member for Rhondda (Sir Chris Bryant) that this will be a zero interest-bearing currency, but surely in the fullness of time we cannot have a situation where banks deposit their money at the Bank of England and get the full 4% base rate, while retail consumers and individuals get zero. If the Minister agrees with that, is this not a way to stop the consumer being ripped off by the big four and getting only 0.83% interest, while the banks are getting 4% from the Bank of England?
Minister reply
I thank my hon. Friend for her endorsement of today’s proposals. She should know that I am as concerned as she is about the fair deal for savers in general. As interest rates have increased, it is absolutely appropriate that savers benefit. It is a virtuous activity, and one that we on the Conservative Benches are very keen to support. The issue of central banks paying other banks interest on deposits is complex. There is a matrix of regulatory advantages and disadvantages from the status of being a bank, and I would be very happy to engage with her more to understand that.
Jamie Stone
Lib Dem
Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross
Question
I do hope that one day the Minister will come to the Durness highland games in north-west Sutherland. He will be very welcome, and he will see just how much money is taken out of the cash machine in Durness—by the way, what a battle we had to get it put back when it was removed! If he goes along the north coast to Wick, he will see how much money is donated to the Wick gala: it is gathered in small shrimp nets and buckets. Tapping an iPhone on a shrimp net simply does not work.
My point is obvious: we rely on cash. In my vast and remote constituency, access to cash is a real challenge if people have to travel huge distances. May I have an assurance that when the Treasury looks at safeguarding access to cash, it will take into account the challenges facing constituencies such as mine?
Minister reply
It is indeed my aspiration to visit the hon. Gentleman’s expansive and rural constituency one day. Let me reassure him and the House that this long-term project will in no way take my or my officials’ time and attention away from any of the endeavours that have been put in place to promote access to cash. There are new powers in the Financial Services and Markets Bill, there are obligations on the regulators, and we are working with the banking industry and with Link.
As a Member who represents a rural constituency, albeit somewhat south of the hon. Gentleman’s, I fully understand the importance of access to cash for communities, for people who may be disadvantaged and use cash to budget, and for our increasingly elderly population. That focus remains, and it is not diminished by this longer-term project. As hon. Members, particularly Opposition Members, have highlighted, we have the opportunity to design in financial inclusion and to ensure that no matter who someone banks with, they can benefit from the UK digital pound.
Aaron Bell
Con
Wrexham
Question
I thank the Economic Secretary for his statement and for the consultation. Perhaps it is apt that it is being launched on the day we have a new Department for Science, Innovation and Technology. That shows that this Government are taking the long view, as well as managing the short-term pressures that we are going through.
The Economic Secretary mentioned public trust, which will be crucial. In launching the digital pound, what measures will the Government be willing to take to safeguard people against the risk of scams? As we have seen with cryptocurrencies, with bank cards and with online banking, people are vulnerable to scams when things are new. What measures do the Government envisage to ensure that launching a digital pound does not put people at risk?
Minister reply
My hon. Friend makes two important points. The first is about the long-term nature of this Government, whose focus on delivery extends to the Prime Minister’s organisation of Departments to ensure that they deliver the outcomes that the British people expect.
My hon. Friend also highlights the importance of financial education. I can commit that, as part of the national dialogue on this important issue, we will give thought to how we ensure that we educate our citizens to prevent them from falling prey to the terrible financial scams that people are trying to perpetrate in the financial system today.
Martin Docherty
SNP
West Dunbartonshire
Question
I declare non-pecuniary interests as chair of the all-party parliamentary group on blockchain and as a vice-chair of the crypto and digital assets all-party parliamentary group. I am glad to see the co-chair, the right hon. Member for East Ham (Sir Stephen Timms), in the Chamber.
The Minister will know that I led the first debate in this House on cryptoasset regulation; I think he was the Minister who responded. Central bank digital currencies played a major part in my speech, so I welcome the opportunity for a consultation. For all the bad press that cryptoassets have—alas, justifiably—received, there exists an undeniable opportunity, as I am sure he will appreciate, for CBDCs to create an accessible, reliable store of value using the principles of distributed ledger technology. Will he elaborate on the aspects of financial inclusion he hopes to bring forward to ensure equal access to the CBDC for the most digitally excluded of our constituents, not just for the crypto bros?
Minister reply
I thank the hon. Member for his contributions to the ongoing debate. I have said that there is an opportunity for us to design in financial inclusion; that is one of the advantages of consulting early and of building a consensus across the House on a subject as important as our nation’s currency. He is quite right that it needs to be accessible and reliable as a store of value; the opportunity for it to sit side by side with cash and with the existing bank and digital payments system should give us the ability to drive financial inclusion outcomes.
Wirral West
Question
Welcomed the Minister’s statement and enquired about the potential impact on small and medium-sized enterprises engaged in import and export activities due to currency exchange costs.
Minister reply
The Minister responded that a digital pound could reduce friction and intermediary costs associated with foreign currency exchanges, potentially benefiting SMEs involved in exporting.
Jim Shannon
DUP
Strangford
Question
Asked about the impact of today's announcement on access to cash, particularly in rural areas where banks are withdrawing services.
Minister reply
The Minister clarified that while the statement is focused on a digital pound, there are legislative plans within the Financial Services and Markets Bill to ensure statutory rights for cash access and deposit. This aims to prevent communities from being forced into a cashless society.
Carol Monaghan
SNP
Glasgow North West
Question
Inquired about safeguards against Government agencies targeting vulnerable individuals through digital pound usage data, as well as protections for those in coercive relationships.
Minister reply
The Minister assured that the digital pound would not provide government access to user data except under limited circumstances. He emphasised that a digital pound could offer independence from commercial entities' policies and be beneficial in scenarios of coercive control.
Shadow Comment
Abena Oppong-Asare
Shadow Comment
The Shadow Secretary welcomed the exploration of a CBDC but raised concerns about privacy protections, financial inclusion, and potential risks to commercial banks. She questioned how the Government would ensure public trust without forcing reliance on tech companies or accelerating financial exclusion. Labour stressed the importance of robust guarantees for digital inclusion and protection against financial crises. The response also criticised the Government's inconsistent approach towards cryptocurrencies, contrasting it with the proposed CBDC’s stability.
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