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Welsh Affairs
29 February 2024
Lead MP
Stephen Crabb
Debate Type
General Debate
Tags
WalesCulture, Media & SportEnergy
Other Contributors: 22
At a Glance
Stephen Crabb raised concerns about welsh affairs in the House of Commons. Other MPs contributed to the debate.
How the Debate Unfolded
MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said:
Lead Contributor
Opened the debate
Mr Crabb opened the debate by expressing disappointment about the scheduling of the annual St David’s day debate, and emphasised its importance for Welsh Members to raise matters of significance. He highlighted the cultural and economic importance of Saint David's Day and the bishopric in Pembrokeshire. As Chairman of the Welsh Affairs Committee, he thanked his fellow members and clerks for their hard work over the past four years. Mr Crabb outlined the objectives of the committee to show relevance, improve visibility and impact on Government decisions, mentioning key inquiries such as broadcasting in Wales and grid capacity issues.
Mr Evans ordered that there will be an unofficial five-minute limit during the debate. He acknowledged Mr Crabb's concerns about scheduling and expressed a commitment to ensuring adequate time for discussions on Welsh affairs in the future.
Carolyn Harris
Lab
Neath and Swansea East
Ms Harris intervened to request that Gower College Swansea should be referred to by its full title, which Mr Crabb promptly acknowledged.
Dwyfor Meirionnydd
Mrs Roberts praised the work done by prison staff in Wales and pointed out an anomaly in the justice system where critical support services for prisoners are run by the Welsh Government, unlike elsewhere in England and Wales.
Tonia Antoniazzi
Lab
Gower
Antoniazzi highlighted the beauty and natural significance of her constituency, Gower, as the first designated area of outstanding natural beauty in Wales. She discussed local issues such as hospitality businesses facing VAT challenges, historical industries like cockle harvesting, and upcoming boundary changes affecting her constituency. Antoniazzi also addressed current challenges in agriculture and encouraged constituents to respond to consultations on sustainable farming schemes before they close.
Evans briefly mentioned his previous unsuccessful attempt at getting elected to the council in Cockett, expressing positive expectations for this area under Antoniazzi's representation.
Jones congratulated Stephen Crabb on securing the debate and criticised the Welsh Government’s sustainable farming scheme. He argued that reducing productive land by 20% would harm agriculture, farmers’ livelihoods, and the rural economy. Jones also highlighted a consultation impact assessment predicting significant negative economic consequences for Wales. He called for proportionate measures addressing climate change rather than policies harmful to local communities.
Nia Griffith
Lab
Llanelli
Welsh Labour MP Nia Griffith discussed the need for railway investment in Wales, highlighting that despite accounting for around 11% of the rail network route length in England and Wales, Wales has received only 1.6% of rail enhancement spending over the last decade. She emphasised the importance of electrification to tackle climate change, reduce pollution, and improve noise levels. Griffith also criticised technical problems and flooding issues on the London-to-Swansea line and urged for investment in infrastructure improvements. Additionally, she spoke about Wales' potential as a renewable energy superpower, stressing the need for government support and clear direction for floating offshore wind projects to attract investment.
Virginia Crosbie
Con
Ynys Môn
Crosbie detailed the historical significance of Christianity in Wales, noting that many church names are rooted in Welsh history. She also discussed Queen Elizabeth I's role in ensuring the Bible was translated into Welsh, which helped preserve literacy and the Welsh language for centuries. Furthermore, she emphasised her personal efforts to promote and preserve the Welsh language through bilingual communications with constituents.
Dwyfor Meirionnydd
Saville-Roberts highlighted the importance of addressing economic issues in Wales, particularly concerning fair funding for infrastructure projects like HS2. She argued that investing in fair consequentials from HS2 and devolving Crown Estate funds could make a material difference to Welsh communities. Additionally, she called for replacing the outdated Barnett formula with a system that better addresses Wales's needs, citing issues of transparency, political manipulation, and inadequate funding floors based on outdated census data.
Robin Millar
Con
Aberconwy
I thank my right hon. Friend for securing the debate and echo his remarks on time availability. My childhood in north Wales instilled a belief in cherishing community and culture, but also revealed the necessity to leave home for opportunities. The 2021 census shows declining Welsh-born populations and ageing demographics; 72% of those moving from north Wales leave Wales entirely, while one-third of Welsh graduates do so. Middle-to-high earning roles have stagnated since 2000, with public sector employment at 37%, compared to UK average of 18%. The economy is dominated by low-paying sectors like agriculture and tourism. Investments are needed to reverse the trend; freeport creation in Anglesey offers hope for investment and skilled jobs, while £1 billion towards electrifying the north Wales mainline promises faster travel and cheaper fares.
Carolyn Harris
Lab
Neath and Swansea East
I am proud to represent a community steeped in true Welsh values. The Everyone Deserves campaign highlights both the generosity of our community and its struggles; high demand for support indicates families struggling with living costs, as evidenced by Bevan Foundation’s study on pensioner poverty. Local heroes such as Swans and Ospreys, Valley Rock Voices choir, Pentrehafod School, and my friend Mal Pope contribute significantly to campaigns like Everyone Deserves and 'Everyone Deserves a Cuppa.' I am honoured to provide support to those in need.
Welsh resources have generated wealth but the benefits are not equally distributed, leading to poverty and inequality. The historical context includes the miners’ strike and ongoing issues like job threats at Tata steelworks. There is a need for devolution or independence as proposed by the Independent Commission on the Constitutional Future of Wales. Proposes economic measures such as fair funding, remediation works for coal tips, compensation for former mine workers, Brexit promises, HS2 funding, and use of Crown Estate revenue for a Welsh sovereign fund to reinvest wealth in communities.
Ben Lake
PC
Ceredigion Preseli
Discusses demographic changes affecting Ceredigion with a significant decline in population and an increase in the elderly. Emphasises the need for investment in digital connectivity to support public services and local economy, noting poor broadband access compared to UK average. Praises some companies considering relocation due to gigabit broadband availability but calls for faster progress on Project Gigabit.
Ruth Jones
Lab
Newport West
Welsh MP Ruth Jones paid tribute to the First Minister Mark Drakeford and highlighted Newport's contributions to music, arts, and entrepreneurship. She also mentioned the semiconductor cluster in south Wales and the importance of a just transition towards green steel production.
Gerald Jones
Lab
Merthyr Tydfil and Aberdare
Welsh MP Gerald Jones criticised the closure of post offices without public consultation, highlighted the cost disparity in petrol prices affecting his constituents, and advocated for better support through pension credit to address the Tory cost of living crisis.
Richard Thomson
SNP
Dunfermline and West Fife
Welsh MPs should be given more power over their own resources, such as the Crown Estate. Support for independence in Wales is growing, particularly among younger generations. The principle of consent must be upheld in any discussion about constitutional change. Labour's record in Scotland differs from its approach in Wales when it comes to criticising the UK Government’s funding settlement.
Jo Stevens
Lab
Cardiff East
Stevens mentioned contributions from other MPs, such as rail infrastructure improvements, offshore wind delays, post office closures, and pension credit rollouts. She expressed concern over the loss of sovereign steelmaking capability and criticised the Government's handling of industry issues like redundancies at Port Talbot and nuclear power plant delays in Wales. She also discussed Labour’s plan to invest £2.5 billion in the UK steel industry by the end of their first term.
David Davies
Con
Monmouth
Mr Davies criticised the Welsh Labour Government for long waiting lists, poor educational standards, congestion caused by a 20 mph limit, and restrictions on new road building. He emphasised that the Government's plan to save jobs in Port Talbot through an electric arc furnace is more effective than Labour's claims of a secret plan. He also highlighted the £100 million transition fund for workers losing their jobs due to steelworks closures. Davies praised the Conservative government’s work on levelling up Wales, including growth deals, investment zones, freeports and infrastructure projects.
Jo Stevens
Lab
Cardiff Central
In response to Mr Davies, Ms Stevens corrected his statement regarding a ban on road building in Wales and highlighted the inconsistency of criticism from those who support 20 mph zones themselves. She also pointed out that anti-20mph social media groups are run by a Conservative councillor.
Nia Griffith
Lab
Llanelli
Ms Griffith highlighted the opportunity for Wales to capture economic benefits from floating offshore wind industries, urging both UK and Welsh Governments to work together to seize this new industrial opportunity.
Nigel Evans
Con
Fylde
Chair of the debate emphasised that there were time constraints during the debate, suggested that if more time was provided, members could have contributed more. He also mentioned attending a memorial service for John Morris and expressed pride in being Welsh.
Made a point of order regarding the Minister's response to her earlier statement on protecting MPs and the public’s right to peaceful protest. She clarified that she does not support organisations aiming to close Parliament or end democratic processes, addressing concerns about abusive language and threats towards elected representatives.
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