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Secretaries of State in the House of Lords: Commons Scrutiny
25 January 2024
Lead MP
Karen Bradley
Debate Type
Ministerial Statement
Tags
Foreign AffairsParliamentary Procedure
Other Contributors: 5
At a Glance
Karen Bradley raised concerns about secretaries of state in the house of lords: commons scrutiny in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.
How the Debate Unfolded
MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said:
Government Statement
The Minister for Digital and Culture made a statement on the Procedure Committee report examining how to provide more direct accountability of Lords Secretaries of State in Commons proceedings. She thanked colleagues who responded to surveys and submitted evidence, noting that almost nine out of ten respondents wanted more scrutiny in the Commons, including departmental questions, urgent questions, and statements. The report recommends that Secretaries of State sitting in the House of Lords should participate in these activities from the Bar of the House rather than the Dispatch Box for the remainder of this Parliament. The recommendation aims to address immediate concerns without setting a precedent for future appointments. The minister emphasised the importance of elected MPs questioning the Foreign Secretary directly, given their responsibility to represent constituents' interests.
Richard Foord
Lib Dem
Honiton and Sidmouth
Question
Following yesterday's debate on UK military action in the Red Sea without a retrospective vote, does she think Lord Carrington’s precedent could inform current scrutiny practices?
Minister reply
The report did not deal with whether votes are required for military actions. However, during the Falklands conflict, a deputy Foreign Secretary was appointed to sit in this House.
Question
Does she assure Members that the proposals in the report are deeply wedded in tradition, as seen with the Duke of Wellington's appearance at the Bar of the House?
Minister reply
The committee adhered to historical precedent, including the example of the Duke of Wellington’s appearance in 1814.
Jeff Smith
Lab
Manchester Withington
Question
Has she had any indication from the Government that they will accept the Committee’s recommendations? What is the expected timescale for agreement?
Minister reply
The report was published recently, and no response has been received yet. The process requires the agreement of the House of Lords, which may take some time.
Jim Shannon
DUP
Strangford
Question
Does the Committee believe that accountability in this House is a priority and that constituents deserve it?
Minister reply
The committee agreed that there was a democratic deficit if Commons proceedings could not raise concerns on behalf of constituents. The report aims to ensure proper scrutiny of FCDO work, particularly given today's global challenges.
Shadow Comment
Richard Foord
Shadow Comment
The shadow Minister highlighted yesterday's debate on UK military action in the Red Sea without a retrospective vote. He questioned whether Lord Carrington’s precedent, where he resigned during the Falklands war for not anticipating an invasion, could inform current scrutiny practices. The response indicated that at the time of the Falklands conflict, a deputy Foreign Secretary was appointed to sit in this House to address accountability issues.
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