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Chagos Islands
13 November 2024
Lead MP
Stephen Doughty
Debate Type
Ministerial Statement
Tags
Climate
Other Contributors: 23
At a Glance
Stephen Doughty raised concerns about chagos islands in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.
How the Debate Unfolded
MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said:
Government Statement
Following two years of negotiations, the Government secured a deal to protect the UK-US base on Diego Garcia. The agreement was necessary as international courts were threatening Mauritian sovereignty claims over the Chagos archipelago. This would have jeopardised the secure operation of the base. The deal ensures robust security arrangements and prevents foreign forces from accessing outer islands. Financial settlements will support both national interests and long-term partnership with Mauritius, including benefits for the Chagossian community such as resettlement programmes and a trust fund. Environmental protection measures and migration route controls are also part of the agreement.
Nigel Farage
Reform
Clacton
Question
Mauritius has no legal or historical claim to sovereignty over a group of islands that are 1,300 miles away from it, and the opinion of the International Court of Justice was purely advisory. There is no legal reason why we have to do any of this.
Minister reply
I disagree fundamentally with the hon. Gentleman's position. The Government inherited a situation where international courts were threatening Mauritian sovereignty claims over Chagos archipelago, risking the secure operation of Diego Garcia base. Without negotiation, UK could face legal setbacks impacting national security.
Phil Brickell
Lab
Bolton West
Question
Does the Minister agree that it is important to uphold international law obligations and recognise the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea's 2021 confirmation of Mauritian sovereignty over Chagos islands?
Minister reply
My hon. Friend is correct. The deal balances our international law obligations with critical UK-US national security requirements, ensuring the base can operate securely into the next century.
Priti Patel
Con
Witham
Question
Asked about the security guarantees for nearby islands, the impact on strategic defence review, potential funding costs from British taxpayers, and mechanisms for extending the military base agreement beyond 99 years. Also inquired about engagement with Chagossian community.
Minister reply
Stephen Doughty assured that there will be robust security arrangements in the treaty to prevent foreign security forces on outer islands. He stated the UK's priority was securing full operation of the base and has engaged deeply with the US administration at technical levels. The treaty will be presented after signature, with a provision for an extension period after 99 years. Reiterated engagement with Chagossians respecting their interests.
Amanda Martin
Lab
Portsmouth North
Question
Welcomed Jonathan Powell's appointment as National Security Adviser and highlighted his expertise in negotiating complex agreements.
Minister reply
Stephen Doughty agreed, praising Powell for his experience in government negotiations and his commitment to UK national security.
Al Pinkerton
Lib Dem
Surrey Heath
Question
Asked about the timescales for Parliamentary oversight of the treaty and inclusion of Chagossian voices. Also raised concerns regarding the Tamil migrants on Diego Garcia.
Minister reply
Stephen Doughty confirmed that full details will be presented to Parliament in due course with provisions supporting Chagossians, including visits, resettlement, citizenship guarantees, trust fund, and welfare support. Noted legal challenges inherited by the current government and measures taken for relocation of migrants subject to security checks.
Tom Hayes
Lab
Bournemouth East
Question
Asked about potential housing support for a constituent who wishes to reunite with UK citizen family.
Minister reply
Stephen Doughty offered to review the specific case and respond in due course.
James Cleverly
Con
Braintree
Question
Asked if Keir Starmer had unminuted conversations with Philippe Sands on the Mauritian claim over Chagos islands.
Minister reply
Stephen Doughty stated that the Prime Minister engaged with Mauritius and US Administration, but did not provide specifics about any unminuted discussions.
John Slinger
Lab
Rugby
Question
I hope that my hon. Friend the Minister will agree with me that, as we discuss the very important issues raised by the hon. Member for Clacton (Nigel Farage), we must acknowledge that all right hon. and hon. Members are doing what is in the best interests of our country; that right hon. and hon. Members on the Opposition Benches do not have a monopoly on national security and defence; and, indeed, that it is this Government who are reforming and improving our international reputation around the world—our decision on the Chagos islands, which will protect the base and deal with the other issues my hon. Friend has mentioned, is an important part of that.
Minister reply
Absolutely. The importance of national security to this Government is at the heart of the missions set out by the Prime Minister, which have been put into practice by the Foreign Secretary, the Defence Secretary and me, along with others across the Government. We would never take decisions that compromised the national security of this country, or indeed that of our allies, and that is why I am confident that this decision is the right one. Let us remember that this process was begun under the last Administration, because they recognised the challenge and recognised that something needed to be done about it.
Chingford and Woodford Green
Question
Given that the Mauritian Government, with whom the Minister was dealing, have failed and are no longer in power, is this not a case of a deal with the wrong people at the wrong time for the wrong reasons, which has abandoned the Chagossians? The Chagossians made it very clear throughout—the fact cannot be misrepresented—that the vast majority wanted to go back, but they also wanted to remain British citizens. Now that we have an incoming Government in America and a new Government in Mauritius, what is the point of continuing with this agreement? We should start again, and recognise that the Chagossians do not want to be Mauritian. They want us to give them their property back, so why do we not just do that, and simplify the whole thing?
Minister reply
The right hon. Gentleman knows that the national security interests of this country and, indeed, those of our allies transcend Administrations. We have just had an election as well; his Government started this process, and we are the ones who got it done. As for Mauritius, we welcome Dr Ramgoolam’s election. I understand that he and his Government are to be sworn in over the next few days, and we look forward to working with them to take forward this agreement. He is a friend of the UK and has deep professional and personal connections with it, having studied and worked here. I should also point out that his party, in opposition, made clear that it in no way wanted to contend with the operation of our base on Diego Garcia.
Chris Curtis
Lab
Milton Keynes North
Question
In the spirit of cross-party working, would the Minister like to take this opportunity to thank the previous Conservative Government for starting negotiations on this important matter? They realised then, even if they do not realise it now, its importance to our country’s national security.
Minister reply
I thank my hon. Friend for his observation. The former Foreign Secretary, the right hon. Member for Braintree (Mr Cleverly), appears to be on his way out, but he recognised, as did many others in the last Administration, that we needed to secure a long-term, sure and legal footing for this base to meet the security needs of ourselves and our allies. We are the Government who came in and got the deal done.
Dave Doogan
SNP
Angus and Perthshire Glens
Question
Does the Minister agree that the principal way to defend national security is to stand fast behind the international rules-based system, and that the principal way to do that is to adhere to the rulings of institutions such as the International Court of Justice? A great deal of concern has been expressed during these exchanges about the sovereign democratic will of the Chagossians. What mechanism will the UK Government put in place to ensure that the House can be confident that the sovereign ambitions of the Chagossians as a people will be respected in this treaty, and not simply sacrificed for convenience?
Minister reply
The hon. Gentleman is right about the importance of international law and adherence to it. This Government are committed to the rule of law, including international law. One reason we wanted to get this deal done was to put that base on a secure legal footing, along with our relationships with Mauritius and other states. There has been substantial criticism from other key partners around the world about our failure to reach a settlement, which was having an impact on our interests. As I have said repeatedly, I have engaged with the Chagossians on many occasions, and we will continue to engage with them. We will continue to listen to the range of views in the community—there are a huge number—and to ensure that their interests are protected, which I am confident that the treaty does.
Mark Sewards
Lab
Leeds South West and Morley
Question
I know that the Minister is a strong ally and supporter of all our overseas territories, as are this Government. Will he take this opportunity to restate the Government’s unconditional commitment to the right of the people of the Falkland Islands and the peoples of Gibraltar to self-determine, and will he also confirm that we will continue to work closely with all our overseas territories?
Minister reply
I thank my hon. Friend for his important question. I can absolutely confirm that, not least through my own actions and those of my ministerial colleagues. The Minister for the Armed Forces, my hon. Friend the Member for Plymouth Sutton and Devonport (Luke Pollard), has visited the Falklands in the last week, where he reiterated our absolute and robust commitment to their self-determination and sovereignty. I was in Gibraltar making the same point just a few weeks ago, and I was in three of our overseas territories last week making exactly the same commitments. This Government are committed to our overseas territories. I look forward to welcoming the leaders to the Joint Ministerial Council next week to say that to them in person.
Paul Holmes
Con
Hamble Valley
Question
Once again the Minister has come to the Chamber and said that the last Government started these negotiations. May I remind him that it was the last Government who ended the negotiations, because the Foreign Secretary did not agree with the advisory legal opinion that was given? This Foreign Secretary capitulated in two days. The Minister has also said that he will not reveal the cost of the deal because the Government do not release information about costs related to overseas bases, but when, on 14 October, my hon. Friend the Member for Huntingdon (Ben Obese-Jecty) asked the Minister for the Armed Forces a question about the total cost related to an overseas base in Kenya, the answer revealed the cost of what the Government were giving to that base. What is so different in this case?
Minister reply
There is a very clear difference. That is a training area, not a major base, and I will not go into the details of the operation on that base. I am surprised that the hon. Gentleman continues to ask for details relating to a base that is hugely important to our national security, when providing such information would put the security of the base at risk.
Joe Powell
Lab
Kensington and Bayswater
Question
I know that the Minister is a strong friend of our overseas territories. Could he explain the importance of putting the US base on a legal footing, and give us a bit more detail about how that will enable us to work with our allies in countering any potential Chinese threat in the region?
Minister reply
My hon. Friend has raised an important point, which has been raised in good faith by Conservative Members and, indeed, by others. I am absolutely confident that when the detail of the treaty is provided—along with other technical details, at appropriate levels—it will make clear our commitments to robust security arrangements to deal with the challenge to which he has referred, and that will include preventing the presence of foreign security forces on the outer islands. Let me reiterate that we simply would not have countenanced a deal that would in any way put our national security or that of our allies at risk.
Gavin Williamson
Con
Stone, Great Wyrley and Penkridge
Question
Quite simply, do we have the unilateral right to extend—yes or no?
Minister reply
I have made it very clear that we have the right to extend the treaty beyond the 99-year period, and the right hon. Gentleman will be able to scrutinise the detail of that in due course.
Calvin Bailey
Lab
Leyton and Wanstead
Question
It is difficult to fathom concerns raised by the Opposition about the consequences of governmental transition, as it was the former Conservative Foreign Secretary, the right hon. Member for Braintree (Mr Cleverly), who said, when leading negotiations with Mauritius: “Our primary objective is to ensure the continued effective operation of our defence facility on Diego Garcia.”—[Official Report, 13 June 2023; Vol. 734, c. 151.] Does my hon. Friend agree that this Government have now delivered that, and should the Conservatives not be welcoming the agreement?
Minister reply
Let me first thank my hon. Friend for his service for our country and its national security—and, indeed, thank all new Members who have served in our armed forces. I completely agree with his comments: we are indeed protecting our national security and putting matters on a secure footing.
Andrew Murrison
Con
South West Wiltshire
Question
Alexander Downer, a former Australian Foreign Minister, a former high commissioner to this country, a former United Nations special adviser on Cyprus and a good friend of this country, says that the surrender of the Chagos Islands is “symptomatic of a country that no longer has geopolitical perspective.” What is the Minister’s response to Mr Downer’s remarks, and does he agree with his comment that the last Labour Government were prepared to capitulate on the two Cypriot sovereign base areas, Dhekelia and Akrotiri? Who would have thought it? Is not the Chagos surrender just same old Labour—strong on post-colonial guilt and weak on safety, security and stability?
Minister reply
I do not recognise those comments in the slightest, not least because we have repeatedly made clear our commitment to our overseas territories: to the Falklands, to Gibraltar, and to the sovereign base areas in Cyprus, which, as the right hon. Gentleman well knows, are protected under the 1960 treaty. I have made statements to that effect. We are clear about our support for those territories and their importance to us. This is not about handing something over; it is about Diego Garcia being on a secure footing, with our military base and our presence secure for the future.
Jeremy Corbyn
Ind
Islington North
Question
The expulsion of the Chagossian people from both Diego Garcia and the archipelago was an act of wanton brutality by British forces. The right to return must be recognised, and international judicial systems have shown that the Chagos Islands should clearly be part of Mauritius. Can the Minister assure me that the Chagossians’ right to return to the archipelago will be accompanied by the right to visit Diego Garcia?
Minister reply
I thank Mr Corbyn for his question. The UK removed the Chagossians from the archipelago in the 1960s and ’70s, which was wrong. Chagossians will have the right to visit all the islands. Given the sensitivity of Diego Garcia facilities, visits there will require procedures but they are possible.
Bob Blackman
Con
Harrow East
Question
Will the Minister set out when the treaty is expected to be signed and whether this House will get a say over it before it becomes law?
Minister reply
The treaty will come through this place with appropriate scrutiny. We are confident that the full details of the treaty will ensure US and UK national security interests and mutual benefit.
Richard Tice
Reform
Boston and Skegness
Question
If the incoming President Trump Administration confirm they are against this deal, will the Government stop negotiations or try to force it upon our most important international strategic partner?
Minister reply
We engage with US Administrations in the usual way. We are confident that this treaty meets UK-US national security interests and puts the base on a secure footing into the next century.
Ashley Fox
Con
Bridgwater
Question
Can the Minister explain why the Government rushed into this deal before the Mauritian election? Is it proper for the British Government to give diplomatic kudos to a party in a foreign election?
Minister reply
The previous Government spent over two years negotiating. We are getting the job done, securing our national security and interests.
Jim Shannon
DUP
Strangford
Question
Does the Minister acknowledge the feelings of Chagossians who have protested about having their sovereignty stripped from them? Does he recognise that the deal struck with China over Hong Kong has not been respected, and will he rethink his decision to respect the wishes of the Chagossians?
Minister reply
I have great respect for the hon. Gentleman's care for human rights around the world. The treaty respects the rights and interests of the Chagossians. We need to put their interests at the heart of the deal, which we have done.
Shadow Comment
Nigel Farage
Shadow Comment
The hon. Member argues that Mauritius has no legal or historical claim to sovereignty over Chagos islands, dismissing the International Court’s advisory opinion as irrelevant. He warns of potential hostility from incoming US officials and doubts about the enforceability of such agreements. Farage also highlights the Chagossian community's preference for British rule over Mauritian governance.
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