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Planning Committees: Reform
09 December 2024
Lead MP
Matthew Pennycook
Debate Type
Ministerial Statement
Tags
Housing
Other Contributors: 41
At a Glance
Matthew Pennycook raised concerns about planning committees: reform in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.
How the Debate Unfolded
MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said:
Government Statement
The House was informed about the government's plan to introduce a planning and infrastructure Bill aimed at streamlining housing and infrastructure delivery across the country. The minister highlighted the need for modernising planning committees, which play a vital role in local democratic oversight of planning decisions. However, they must be more effective to address the housing supply crisis inherited from previous administrations. To avoid past mistakes, the government published a working paper seeking views on three changes: delegation scheme for types of applications, dedicated committees for strategic projects, and mandatory training for committee members. These reforms aim to streamline decision-making processes while maximising professional skills and focusing councillor time on significant cases.
David Simmonds
Con
Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner
Question
The MP expressed concern over the impact of proposed reforms on local democracy. He questioned the ability of ward councillors to call in applications, enforcement issues, and the status of neighbourhood plans. He also asked about the government's timeline for implementing housing projects.
Minister reply
The minister responded that the changes would empower trained planning professionals while ensuring protections for neighbourhood plans remain intact. He noted that 96% of decisions are already made by officers using delegated powers, and highlighted the need to streamline processes for major applications. The government intends to bring forward further details on reforms, including changes to the national planning policy framework.
Clive Betts
Lab
Sheffield South East
Question
My hon. Friend will know that I am passionately committed to local councils and local democracy, but does he understand the frustration that many of us feel when a planning authority democratically approves a local plan after consulting the community, but then, when an application is made to build homes, the same councillors turn down the application, despite it being consistent with the local plan? Is the Minister’s main objective to try to remove that sort of decision making, which holds up the whole process, and to ensure, in consultation with the Local Government Association and others in local government, that we can find a better way forward, so that we can get the permissions to build the homes that the country badly needs?
Minister reply
I thank my hon. Friend for that question. He has huge expertise in this area from his time as Chair of the Housing, Communities and Local Government Committee, and he is absolutely right. We have been clear that the best way for local communities to shape the decisions about what to build, where, is through local plans. It is appalling that we have inherited a situation in which less than a third of places are covered by up-to-date local plans. We need to boost that, and—we are looking at how we can ensure that planning committees make decisions on the most significant and controversial applications rather than spending their time poring over decisions made through the local plan process.
Gideon Amos
Lib Dem
Taunton and Wellington
Question
As there are 8.5 million people in England with unmet housing need, the Liberal Democrats welcome the plans for further house building. For us, the priority has to be the delivery of social homes. We need 150,000 annually, and we need housing that local people can genuinely afford. On the topic of social housing, I refer Members to my entry in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests. Let us be clear: when Whitehall takes planning decisions out of the hands of local councillors, it is taking decisions out of the hands of local people. That is undemocratic, and we would reverse that. Instead, Government should unblock the thousands of permitted homes that are not being built—for example, through “use it or lose it” permissions, by having more than just one extra planning officer per local authority, and by allowing councils to set their fees and to ringfence that income for planning departments. Will the Minister allow councils to set their application fees, and ensure that that funding is ringfenced for planning departments?
Minister reply
I thank the hon. Gentleman for that set of questions, and I am glad that he personally welcomes housing. When it comes to his party, on this issue, as on so many others, the view you get depends on what part of the country you are in. We are absolutely committed to increasing the delivery of social and affordable homes. We have taken decisive early steps to bring that forward, including by securing an additional £500 million in the Budget for the affordable homes programme.
Graham Stringer
Lab
Blackley and Middleton South
Question
When I was leader of Manchester city council, I spent a large percentage of my time trying to right the wrongs of Labour and Conservative Governments in the ’60s and ’70s who had made a similar dash to build many, many houses. I spent my time finding ways to fund the demolition of deck-access housing. As a result, I became convinced that the solution to every problem is not more power to the centre. The people in Chorley know what is best for Chorley, Mr Speaker, just as the people in Manchester know what is best for Manchester. Will my hon. Friend assure me that he will look at the mistakes that were made in the ’60s and ’70s in the dash for building, and ensure that we do not have really bad decisions made from the centre, or the exclusion of local councils?
Minister reply
I thank my hon. Friend for that question. He is right about some of the bad decisions that were made in the past. I am a keen student of history and am well aware of some of them, and we definitely take them into account when making our own decisions. On what he said about seizing power from the centre, this is absolutely nothing of the sort. We are proposing a national scheme of delegation to provide consistency in how councils make these important decisions.
Edward Leigh
Con
Gainsborough
Question
There is nothing more controversial than Governments seeking to bypass local democracy. I saw that with the desire of the last Government to bypass local democracy by imposing a special development order on RAF Scampton, and I see it now with the many applications to build solar farms that are ostensibly national infrastructure projects. The present planning system was largely created by the Labour Government, and has stood the test of time. Can the Minister assure me that whatever he decides finally, we will not degrade local democracy? It is essential that people join a council, and join a planning committee, knowing that they have real powers and are not under the cosh of Government, or plans imposed by Government.
Minister reply
I thank the right hon. Gentleman for that question. We have to take steps to fix the ailing planning system that we have inherited. It is failing on a number of fronts, and trust and confidence in it is at a record low. As for the assertion that we have heard, for all the hyperbole from Conservative Members, we are not seizing power from the centre. We are saying to local communities, ‘Put an up-to-date local plan in place, and when sites are allocated through that local plan, you can be confident that they will be built out in the manner that you have specified. It is through local plans that you get your control.’ However, when it comes to the decisions on specific sites, let us ensure, if we can, that elected members are directed towards the most significant and controversial applications.
Chris Curtis
Lab
Milton Keynes North
Question
It is good to see the Government’s recommitment to the importance of local plans. In July this year, Milton Keynes city council went through the important process of developing a local plan. During the election campaign, the former Prime Minister, the right hon. Member for Richmond and Northallerton (Rishi Sunak), visited my home town and described the development of a local plan as ‘reckless’. Will the Minister reassure us that this Government do not believe that local plans are reckless, but consider them necessary for the sustainable delivery of the homes that the country needs?
Minister reply
I thank my hon. Friend for that question, and I absolutely agree with him. We have a local-plan-led planning system, in which fewer than a third of areas have an up-to-date local plan, and that is unsustainable. We are absolutely determined to drive towards universal local plan coverage. The measures on which we are consulting—and I emphasise that this is a working paper; we are seeking views, and hon. Members are more than welcome to submit theirs as we refine our proposals—will reinforce and support the plan-led system by ensuring that officer and member time is focused on the applications where that is most needed.
Gagan Mohindra
Con
South West Hertfordshire
Question
As the Housing and Planning Minister will be aware, both Dacorum borough council and Three Rivers district council in my constituency are Lib Dem-controlled; Three Rivers has been for over 20 years. Both councils do not have an up-to-date local plan. Can the Minister advise the House about what would happen if the Government imposed a local plan on an authority? Would those decisions be delegated to officers? If so, the process would have no democratic mandate at all.
Minister reply
We have not outlined any proposals in the working paper that relate to call-ins or the takeover of local plans from the centre. The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right, though, that Ministers already have powers to take over a local plan in extremis; they have not been used before. We are more than willing to use all the powers at our disposal to ensure that we have up-to-date local plan coverage.
Lauren Sullivan
Lab
Gravesham
Question
I welcome the mandatory training. As a former chair of a planning committee, I know that training was part of the process that we implemented, so it is good to see that it will be delivered across the board. We approved some developments multiple times on the same site, such as a maternity block in my constituency, which was then flipped and sold on to another developer. Could the Minister please tell us what steps are being taken to account for land banking or flipping sites via developers?
Minister reply
My hon. Friend is absolutely right that there are good examples of training across the country. Hon. Members seemed to indicate earlier that they thought that mandatory training for councillors was in place. It is not in place. We know there are good examples out there, but provision is inconsistent, and we think that we need to take forward mandatory training to ensure that all councillors have the necessary knowledge to make the best decisions on individual applications. On my hon. Friend’s point about trading of land, she is absolutely right. There is far too much speculative development in this country. We have a dysfunctional land market. Again, I come back to the importance of up-to-date local plans. It is through up-to-date local plans that communities have the ability to shape development in their area in the best possible way in accordance with their wishes.
Lisa Smart
Lib Dem
Hazel Grove
Question
Until September this year, I was a proud elected member of Stockport council. I made decisions on planning, because in Stockport we decide at ward level what is appropriate for each ward. If I understand the Government’s suggestions correctly, the power to decide for ourselves has been taken away from Stockport council. Could the Minister confirm my understanding?
Minister reply
I am afraid to say that the hon. Lady’s understanding is not correct. I encourage her to read the working paper. It is a working paper, and we are seeking initial views on a national scheme of delegation. There are three options in the working paper. I look forward to her submitting her views in full, and I will happily consider them.
Andy McDonald
Lab
Middlesbrough and Thornaby East
Question
I welcome the Government’s new ambition on homes and note that the stated aim is to ensure that skilled planning officers in local authorities are given the appropriate amount of trust and empowerment. Unfortunately, that is not the case in Middlesbrough, because the last Tory Government handed over power to the unwanted Middlesbrough Development Corporation, which totally undermined the council’s planning department and instead used a private planning consultancy, at a significantly higher cost to the public purse and with a considerable loss of democratic authority. What assurances can the Minister give me that Middlesbrough will get the trust, the empowerment and, indeed, the affordable housing that it needs, and that local democratic legitimacy will be restored?
Minister reply
My hon. Friend is absolutely right about the importance of local empowerment and of local communities shaping development in their areas—most importantly, as I have made clear in answer to several questions, through up-to-date local plans. My hon. Friend will forgive me if I do not comment on the specifics of the development corporation in his area, but on planning officers more generally, the Government want to make sure—this is what we are testing through the proposals in the working paper—that skilled planning officers in local authorities have the right level of trust and empowerment to resolve select applications more quickly in the service of residents and business. We also want to ensure that planning professionals are fully supported in their roles, and that their experience and skills are put to best use.
Steve Barclay
Con
North East Cambridgeshire
Question
There are a remarkable number of contradictions. The Minister says that he wants more democratic oversight while removing the democratic local voice of councillors. He said he is being decisive while also saying he has existing powers that he has not used and that this is not a firm set of proposals. He is not proposing anything around tech and improvements, while the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster is giving a big speech this week on exactly that, as the centrepiece of Government change. Why does the Minister think that the way to bring clarity to the transport system and local plan is to tell people to engage with the local plan, then at the same time tell them that if they do so, the people most engaged with that, the democratically elected councillors, will be ignored if they then follow that local plan?
Minister reply
I gently say to the right hon. Gentleman that, for a start, he has clearly not read the working paper. His question was a mess of contradictions. What we are clearly saying to local communities is, “Get an up-to-date local plan in place; you can then have confidence that that local plan will be delivered; you can have confidence that applications in line with that local plan will be delivered; and you can have confidence that elected planning members will be focused on the most significant and the most controversial applications, and that local planning officers in those authorities can ensure that other applications that need not go before members are determined in accordance with the local plan as well as the national planning policy framework.
Clive Efford
Lab
Eltham
Question
We have had trouble with house building because the speed with which houses are built has been dictated by developers. What we need to see, when planning permission is granted, is that the developer must either use it or lose it. We cannot allow those companies to continue to land bank and use their land only when they are confident that house prices are continuing to rise. Does my hon. Friend intend to deal with those aspects of the housing market?
Minister reply
On many sites across the country there are genuine reasons, including those of viability, why sites are not being built out. It is not as simple as saying that every consented site that is not being built out is being sat on deliberately by developers, but we know that land is traded speculatively. I want to reassure my hon. Friend and constituency neighbour that, as I have made clear in answer to previous questions, there are existing powers that we can consider bringing into force, and there are measures that we took forward in the consultation on the national planning policy framework that we think will help build-out, particularly on proposals around mixed-use sites, but there is potentially more that we can do in this area and we are keeping the matter under close review.
Martin Wrigley
Lib Dem
Newton Abbot
Question
Speaking as—until recently—the leader of a district council and a long-term member of our planning committee, I do not recognise the issues that the Minister is citing. A lot of the things he says relate to the absence of a local plan. My council has just put in place a new local plan, which is hopefully being approved right now. A better way to get more affordable housing would be to look at the way local authorities can finance the building of those houses and fix that. It would be better to allow local authorities to charge appropriate amounts to cover the costs of the planning, so that they can get the necessary planning officers, and far better to look at how many councils already do mandatory training. I hear from Liberal Democrat colleagues that they all had to do mandatory training, as I did in my council, so that is in place. I would like to see a list of how many councils do not do that. We also need to make water companies statutory consultees so that we do not hit flooding problems. Those changes will help. The problem is not in the planning process. More than 1 million applications have been allowed but not built—
Minister reply
Indeed, Mr Speaker, and I get a strong sense that an Adjournment debate application will be coming your way on several of those issues. Let me address a number of them. The hon. Gentleman says that training is in place in most parts of the country, in which case local authorities should have no problem with mandatory training being requested by the centre, and only a small number of authorities—if it is a small number—would have to put such training in place. The hon. Gentleman makes points on capacity and planning fees. I hope he will have seen in the recent consultation on proposed reforms to the national planning policy framework that the Government set out proposed changes to planning application fees and also sought views on the localisation of such fees.
Debbie Abrahams
Lab
Oldham East and Saddleworth
Question
So much of the success of a local plan seems to hinge on co-production with local communities. Will the Minister describe effective models of that?
Minister reply
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. One of the problems we have in our planning system is that not enough people engage with applications or, in particular, with the local plan process. We need to ensure that more people are engaged upstream in the production of local plans because, as I said, they are the best way to shape development in a particular local community. There are a number of things we can do, not least through some of the innovations coming forward as a result of the previous Government’s Levelling-up and Regeneration Act 2023, which has a huge amount of potential in terms of digital planning and how it can allow communities to see spatially the type of development that might come forward in their area.
Bernard Jenkin
Con
Harwich and North Essex
Question
This working paper appears to have been thought up after a request for options to streamline the planning process. What is the evidence that what planning committees decide is the fundamental obstacle in the planning system? The Minister should produce a comprehensive assessment of all the things that delay house building.
Minister reply
The proposals are part of a larger agenda to address delays in planning decisions and facilitate speedy delivery of homes and places. Changes to the national planning policy framework were made early in office, with more reforms planned for next year.
Jennifer Craft
Lab
Thurrock
Question
Only 19% of major decisions are made within the statutory framework, causing a housing crisis. Is it time to address these issues head-on?
Minister reply
Yes, there is an urgent need for reform. The proposals aim to encourage better quality development aligned with local plans and facilitate timely determination of applications.
Siân Berry
Green
Brighton Pavilion
Question
Has the Minister made any assessment of planning officers moving to work directly for or as consultants to large developers? Should there be registers of interests, gifts, and hospitality for senior planners?
Minister reply
Proposals in that area are not part of this working paper, but suggestions are welcome.
Connor Naismith
Lab
Crewe and Nantwich
Question
Does the Government’s drive to reform planning ensure speedier decision making for crucial facilities like grassroots football investments?
Minister reply
Speed is a challenge, but so is capacity. The Department directs support at local authorities with dedicated programmes and investment of £46 million.
Julian Lewis
Con
New Forest East
Question
Does the Minister agree that this measure is designed to fight nimbyism, implying that elected planning committees are acting in a knee-jerk manner?
Minister reply
The debate is reductive; proposals aim to streamline processes and allow trained officers to make decisions on non-controversial applications.
Amanda Martin
Lab
Portsmouth North
Question
What work is the Minister undertaking to turn the page on the failure of the last Government, so that we can build desperately needed social housing?
Minister reply
Partly due to changes made by the previous Government, housing supply has nose-dived. Permissions and completions are at their lowest in a decade.
Mark Francois
Con
Rayleigh and Wickford
Question
Labour-led Basildon borough council’s new draft plan proposes 27,000 properties, including 4,300 in Wickford. Why is Labour trying to neuter local planning committees of democratically elected councillors?
Minister reply
Local plans will proceed through the system as appropriate, and it will be for the Planning Inspectorate to decide if the plan is sound.
Peter Swallow
Lab
Bracknell
Question
What more can we do to ensure that home ownership is open to everyone in my constituency?
Minister reply
The inherited housing crisis has ended the dream of home ownership for many. The Government aims to build 1.5 million homes over five years.
Helen Morgan
Lib Dem
North Shropshire
Question
Can the Minister reassure me that proposals will not dilute the importance of local knowledge in making critical decisions about flooding?
Minister reply
Local expertise and knowledge are preserved. Proposals aim to streamline decision-making processes while ensuring they are made correctly.
Luke Myer
Lab
Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland
Question
Young families in Teesside are desperate to get on the housing ladder, yet last year the number of new homes given planning permission fell to a 10-year low. Can the Minister reassure the House of the steps that he will take to ensure that homes are built and that we get Britain building again?
Minister reply
Permissions have fallen sharply due to changes in the national planning policy framework by the previous Government, which gave local authorities myriad excuses to bring forward plans below their nominal target. We propose changes to the NPPF to make 370,000 the standard method total envelope and build 1.5 million homes over the next five years.
Bradley Thomas
Con
Bromsgrove
Question
The Deputy Prime Minister said that this country has plenty of houses. Can the Minister explain why the Government are imposing an 82% increase in the housing target for Bromsgrove district?
Minister reply
We consulted on a revised standard method to meet the scale of ambition required to build homes needed across the country, and realise it will put pressure on areas needing to increase their targets. We have proposals on how support will be put in place.
Toby Perkins
Lab
Chesterfield
Question
Will the training of planning committee members cover matters such as renewable energy, floodplains and renewable transport to ensure that new planning applications do not negatively impact the environment?
Minister reply
On mandatory training, we are considering a wide range of implementation options. We want to determine the best way forward by working with all stakeholders, and encourage views into the consultation.
Tim Farron
Lib Dem
Westmorland and Lonsdale
Question
The reform represents a loss of control when local communities are desperate for more control. Will he look at doing that in the coming days?
Minister reply
We refute the claim that changes represent a loss of control. We are interested in what additional powers we can give local communities to tackle negative impacts, not less.
Dan Tomlinson
Lab
Chipping Barnet
Question
Does he agree that it is interesting to see Conservative Members taking an entirely different approach, opposing sensible changes that would support growth in this country and sticking with chaos in the planning system?
Minister reply
These are sensible, proportionate changes to streamline housing delivery. If Conservatives resist reform, they will be digging their long-term electoral grave.
Martin Vickers
Con
Brigg and Immingham
Question
The Minister speaks of mandatory training for councillors, but it has been tried before. Can the Minister assure us that they would still have discretion to turn down applications?
Minister reply
We encourage engagement with proposals in the working paper. Elected members should take decisions on significant and controversial applications; skilled local planning officers can make decisions on minor reserved matters.
Chris Hinchliff
Lab
North East Hertfordshire
Question
Could the Minister set out in more detail how he sees these plans interacting with processes around master planning and the negotiation of planning conditions?
Minister reply
We have not set out specific proposals for interaction with master planning and planning conditions, but we welcome views on potential interactions.
Max Wilkinson
Lib Dem
Cheltenham
Question
Does the Minister accept that one new planning authority simply will not cut it?
Minister reply
We are working to bring through 300 planners with apprenticeships and training, allocated £46 million investment in the Budget to help local authorities with planning capacity.
Jim Dickson
Lab
Dartford
Question
Will the Minister consider joining me on a visit to see how the Government could learn from Ebbsfleet’s lessons?
Minister reply
We think strategic planning committees should cover large-scale allocated regeneration or industrial sites, and we would like views on this proposal.
Saqib Bhatti
Con
Meriden and Solihull East
Question
Is it not the case that the Government have realised that the mandatory top-down targets they came up with are now unachievable, and that in their panic they have come up with a policy that will undermine local democratic voices?
Minister reply
These proposals were set out in the King’s Speech in July. I am not sure how that constitutes panic.
Mark Sewards
Lab
Leeds South West and Morley
Question
Some 47% of casework relates to housing, necessitating the construction of 1.5 million new homes to address the crisis. Councillors often oppose development due to lack of infrastructure; what reassurances can be given that necessary infrastructure will accompany house building?
Minister reply
Acknowledging concerns about nimbyism and the need for better-informed planning decisions, Minister Pennycook highlights ongoing work in consultation with the NPPF (National Planning Policy Framework) and expresses willingness to discuss further measures.
Wera Hobhouse
Lib Dem
Bath
Question
Local authorities do not hinder house building but land banking does. In Bath and north-east Somerset, 2,000 homes have received permission without construction; should the Government focus on addressing this issue rather than threatening local democracy?
Minister reply
Minister Pennycook asserts that both speeding up planning decisions and tackling land supply issues are essential. He confirms ongoing consideration of measures to address land banking.
Christopher Vince
Lab Co-op
Harlow
Question
Residents complain about the lengthy process from plan approval to completion. How can these plans be expedited for Harlow constituents?
Minister reply
Minister Pennycook acknowledges the need for quicker local plan development and adherence to set timelines, aiming to ensure certainty in the sector.
Kieran Mullan
Con
Bexhill and Battle
Question
Experienced Labour Members know that replacing local planning committees with planning officers undermines democratic decision-making. Can planning officers effectively replace councillors on important matters?
Minister reply
Minister Pennycook notes that 96% of decisions are already made by planning officers and suggests a streamlined system where significant applications still come to elected members.
Tristan Osborne
Lab
Chatham and Aylesford
Question
Tonbridge and Malling borough council has allowed speculative development due to lack of local plan. Do firm timetables for robust plans that consider local concerns need training for appeals?
Minister reply
Minister Pennycook agrees on the importance of up-to-date local plan coverage, shaping development through planning systems with timely decisions to avoid speculative development.
Richard Foord
Lib Dem
Honiton and Sidmouth
Question
National landscapes compress available area for housing targets in flood-prone villages. How do these reforms help such areas?
Minister reply
Minister Pennycook explains that the Planning Inspectorate tests local plans for soundness, considering constraints on development due to protected areas.
Jim Shannon
DUP
Strangford
Question
What discussions have been had with devolved Administrations regarding UK-wide planning reform to address affordable housing and economic growth?
Minister reply
Minister Pennycook confirms regular meetings with counterparts from the devolved authorities to learn lessons about shared challenges in the United Kingdom.
Shadow Comment
David Simmonds
Shadow Comment
The shadow criticised the government’s approach towards planning reform, expressing surprise at statements suggesting there are enough homes in the country. He questioned the impact of proposed reforms on local democracy, including ward councillors' ability to call in applications, enforcement issues, and the status of neighbourhood plans. The shadow also noted that 96% of decisions are already made by officers using delegated powers and asked when the government would start implementing housing projects rather than reforming the planning system.
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