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Baby Loss 2025-10-13
13 October 2025
Lead MP
Andy MacNae
Debate Type
General Debate
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NHS
Other Contributors: 53
At a Glance
Andy MacNae raised concerns about baby loss 2025-10-13 in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.
How the Debate Unfolded
MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said:
Lead Contributor
Opened the debate
The debate discusses the challenges faced by families who have experienced baby loss, highlighting that 13 babies die daily in various circumstances. It emphasises disparities in outcomes based on ethnicity and socio-economic status. The Member calls for a national investigation into maternity services to address systemic issues, improve safety standards, set new ambitious targets, enhance bereavement care and mental health support, and ensure effective regulation of healthcare professionals.
Andy MacNae
Lab
Rossendale and Darwen
The Member notes that 13 babies die daily in the UK from various causes, including stillbirths, neonatal deaths, ectopic pregnancies, sudden unexplained infant death syndrome, and miscarriages. He highlights ethnic minorities and those living in deprivation are disproportionately affected. The Member argues for a national investigation to address systemic failings, proposes new safety ambitions, and calls for better bereavement care and mental health support.
Andy MacNae
Lab
Rossendale and Darwen
The current system of maternity care is failing, with avoidable deaths and systemic weaknesses. The National Midwifery Council's inaction must be addressed for better regulation and accountability to ensure safe practices are maintained.
Jeremy Hunt
Con
Godalming and Ash
Progress has been made since the Morecambe Bay inquiry, with a 20% reduction in baby deaths. However, inequalities persist, especially for black or Asian mums and babies from deprived backgrounds. The decline in baby deaths has plateaued post-pandemic, and there is still fear among NHS staff to raise safety concerns.
Michelle Welsh
Lab
Sherwood Forest
Systemic failures in maternity services lead to preventable errors, missed opportunities, and systemic failures. Families lose hope as dreams are turned into dust due to the negligence of health professionals who treat them with contempt.
Luke Charters
Lab
York Outer
Charters commended Michelle Welsh for raising awareness of baby loss and highlighted the case of Hayley Patrick-Copeland, a bereaved mother who has been raising awareness and supporting other bereaved parents.
Alex Sobel
Lab/Co-op
Leeds Central and Headingley
Sobel agreed with Welsh's stance on accountability in hospitals with high mortality rates. He cited MBRRACE-UK data showing the highest mortality rates in Leeds, 70% higher than the UK average.
Tessa Munt
LD
Wells and Mendip Hills
Emphasises the need for standardised bereavement care mandated by every NHS trust. Cites example of her constituents John and Holly Osman who lost their twins, Logan and Lottie, highlighting the importance of compassionate care from trained midwives in hospitals like Royal United Hospital at Bath. Criticises voluntary adoption of bereavement care pathway and calls for immediate mandatory implementation.
Fleur Anderson
Lab
Putney
Calls for a UK-wide perinatal death reduction programme and highlights the case of Maia Devlin Corfield, whose stillbirth was due to failures in foetal growth monitoring. Discusses national standards on foetal growth monitoring and calls for a universal standard across all nations to ensure consistency.
Edward Argar
Con
Melton and Syston
Pays tribute to families affected by baby loss, mentioning specific babies lost such as Wynter, Harry, and Ciara-Mae. Acknowledges the work of charities like Bliss and Sands in supporting these families.
Michelle Welsh
Con
Sherwood Forest
Baby loss is not just a personal tragedy but also a public health issue. Families, especially mothers and fathers, endure immense pain from such losses. There needs to be continued transparent engagement with families regarding the review process. Lessons must be learned about preventable errors and gaps in care to ensure systemic change.
Naz Shah
Lab
Bradford West
Baby loss is one of the most devastating experiences for parents, deeply impacting their lives. The amendment to extend bereavement leave under the Employment Rights Bill recognises the human cost and ensures families receive time to heal. Preventable deaths occurred in Bradford teaching hospitals NHS foundation trust; measures have been put in place but must ensure lessons are learned to prevent further tragedies.
Tom Morrison
LD
Cheadle
Gigi’s tragic death highlights the need for better standards and safety in nurseries. Ofsted inspections will be more frequent, safe sleep guidance will be updated, but mandatory training, CCTV implementation, and unannounced inspections are necessary to save lives. The Government must have political will to ensure that our nurseries and maternity units provide the safest environment.
Sarah Gibson
LD
Chippenham
Describes a constituent's sister who was stillborn many years ago without any bereavement counselling or marked grave. The practice continued until the late 1980s, leaving families with no focus for their grief and no acknowledgment that these children existed. Calls for memorial recognition to support grieving families.
Sharon Hodgson
Lab
Washington and Gateshead South
Shares her personal experience of losing a baby in 1998, highlighting the taboo nature of discussing baby loss. Supports efforts to change laws for official recognition of stillborn babies born before 24 weeks through baby loss certificates. Asks the Secretary of State about steps to include both parents’ names on certificates when registered with GPs in different countries.
Esher and Walton
Focuses on a family whose six-week-old baby died while being breastfed in a sling, highlighting the inadequacy of guidance available to parents. National Childbirth Trust and Lullaby Trust have updated their advice, but national guidelines must keep pace with modern practices to ensure public safety.
Jess Asato
Lab
Lowestoft
Called for dedicated private spaces in hospitals for bereaved parents, emphasised the importance of staff training and support services, raised issues regarding inconsistent care and lack of follow-up after a loss.
Dorking and Horley
Discussed the case of Jamie and Ellie Thompson who lost their son to cancer. Highlighted the need for improved palliative care and support for families, as well as the importance of funding promising medical trials.
Olivia Blake
Lab
Sheffield Hallam
Called for a national strategy to improve maternal health and reduce baby loss. Emphasised the need for better infertility services, advocating for central provision of three cycles of IVF across the UK.
John Milne
LD
Horsham
Raised concerns about avoidable deaths in University Hospitals Sussex NHS trust and called for truth, accountability, and change. Acknowledged the pressure on staff but stressed the need to address serious issues.
Chichester
Supports the appointment of Donna Ockenden due to her work in building trust with Sussex families and providing immediate actions for improvement. Urges prompt implementation of necessary actions alongside the inquiry.
Richard Burgon
Lab
Leeds East
Agrees that any review must be independent from those involved in past failures at Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust, reflecting concerns raised by his constituents about lack of accountability and transparency.
Lee Barron
Lab
Corby and East Northamptonshire
Highlights the ongoing issues faced by families who have lost babies due to preventable causes, emphasising the need for better aftercare support, both physical and mental, for bereaved parents.
Bobby Dean
LD
Carshalton and Wallington
Shares his personal experience of early miscarriage and suggests improvements such as recording every miscarriage to get firmer statistics, providing 24-hour access to support, and offering mental health assistance from the first moment.
Nadia Whittome
Lab
Nottingham East
Acknowledges ongoing struggles of families in Nottingham facing corporate manslaughter investigations due to preventable baby deaths and injuries. Pays tribute to affected families' group for their determination and Donna Ockenden's work.
Unnamed MP
Lab
Nottingham North
The MP emphasised the need for accountability and improvement in maternity care at Nottingham University Hospitals (NUH). They welcomed the Government's national maternity investigation but expressed concern about families not feeling included. The MP highlighted the 22 recommendations from the Shrewsbury and Telford Ockenden review that must be implemented without delay, stressing the importance of oversight bodies like CQC being more visible and capable of prosecution within a reasonable timeframe. They also advocated for increased statutory funding for charities supporting grieving families.
Jim Shannon
DUP
Strangford
Jim highlighted personal stories related to miscarriages and stillbirths, expressing grief and solidarity with affected families in Northern Ireland. He emphasised the importance of a baby loss certificate for validation and recognition of loss at any stage of pregnancy. Jim recounted Agnes's lifelong grief and the need for such debates to acknowledge the losses endured silently by many.
Samantha Niblett
Lab
South Derbyshire
Samantha shared the tragic story of Hayley Johnson, whose daughter Evelyn died due to medical negligence. She detailed her constituents' experiences with baby loss and highlighted initiatives like Lenny’s Legacy and Our Little Angels for support. Samantha listed numerous families who have lost babies and emphasised that their grief and losses matter.
Lizzi Collinge
Lab
Morecambe and Lunesdale
As an MP, mum, and personal loss survivor, Lizzi called for a duty of candour on public bodies and bereavement leave for parents who lose babies before 24 weeks. She welcomed the national maternity investigation and highlighted local cases such as Ryan and Sarah’s baby Ida's death due to care failings.
Susan Murray
LD
Mid Dunbartonshire
Paid tribute to Louise Caldwell’s campaigning and the opening of baby loss units. Highlighted failings in maternity services as per Ockenden report, including inadequate equipment and systemic issues. Criticised the lack of progress on implementing recommendations.
Sarah Smith
Lab
Hyndburn
Called for statutory requirements for bereavement pathways and additional staffing to ensure psychological support for families affected by baby loss. Advocated for evidence-based birth and reproductive trauma debrief services in East Lancashire, urging the Secretary of State to make these services accessible.
Clapham and Brixton Hill
Emphasised the need for recognition of all forms of pregnancy and baby loss. Highlighted racial disparities in maternal mortality, with black women being three times more likely to die during pregnancy or childbirth than white women. Called for urgent action to tackle health inequalities.
Andy MacNae
Con
Rossendale and Darwen
Supports the debate's focus on providing support for parents experiencing pregnancy loss, particularly focusing on men who often lack such support.
Michelle Welsh
Con
Sherwood Forest
Participates in raising awareness about baby loss and emphasises the importance of community support networks like Ashby Sands United for fathers dealing with the grief of losing a child or experiencing miscarriage.
Jeremy Hunt
Con
Godalming and Ash
Secured this debate, highlighting the need to address preventable tragedies in maternity care and the importance of reducing inequalities in neonatal mortality rates based on ethnicity and deprivation.
Jo White
Lab
Bassetlaw
Discusses Laura Corcoran’s invention of a miscarriage cradle, which aims to give women more control over managing their loss at home. Emphasises the need for every NHS hospital trust to stock this device and raises awareness about baby loss kits.
Adam Thompson
Lab
Erewash
Talks about cases of misdiagnosis and failures in care leading to tragic outcomes, highlighting families like Carl Everson and Carly Wesson who lost their daughter due to incorrect medical advice. Also mentions the Sissons family whose son suffered a brain injury at birth, affecting his life severely.
Amanda Martin
Lab
Portsmouth North
Stresses that behind every statistic of stillbirth and infant mortality are grieving families deeply affected by loss. Emphasises the need for better support systems and justice for those whose lives have been irrevocably altered.
Wolverhampton North East
Highlights severe racial inequalities in neonatal mortality rates, stating that babies of black ethnicity are more than twice as likely to be stillborn compared to white babies. Emphasises unequal access to bereavement care and mental health support for parents, especially fathers. Urges the Government to eliminate inequalities based on ethnicity and deprivation and ensure high-quality bereavement and mental health care for all families.
Michael Payne
Lab
Gedling
Pays tribute to families in Gedling and Nottinghamshire who have lost babies due to avoidable circumstances. Criticises the failures of NHS regulatory bodies like NMC, GMC, CQC, and calls for overhauling regulation and improving accountability. Mentions charities and volunteers supporting bereaved families.
Dave Robertson
Lab
Lichfield
Says that routine testing for group B strep during pregnancy could save lives. Emphasises the importance of the GBS3 trial which is due to report later in the year, advocating for the gold standard test costing £15.
Sean Woodcock
Lab
Banbury
Shares a constituent’s story about hypoxic-ischemic encephalopathy (HIE), highlighting that it affects three to four out of every 1,000 births and can result in developmental delays or even death. Advocates for family-centred support rather than restricting mental health services to just mothers.
Mid Sussex
Emphasised the emotional and psychological suffering associated with losing a baby, cited statistics from Sands on daily baby deaths in the UK, discussed compensation claims for medical negligence related to maternity care, highlighted systemic issues in healthcare trusts and called for implementation of Ockenden report recommendations.
Caroline Johnson
Con
Sleaford and North Hykeham
Acknowledged previous government's efforts to improve maternity services, mentioned progress made towards halving stillbirths, neonatal deaths and maternal deaths rates by 2030, praised baby loss certificates introduced under the last Government, questioned current Secretary of State on timely implementation of plans.
Gregory Stafford
Con
Farnham and Bordon
Agreed with Dr Caroline Johnson's comments about the introduction of baby loss certificates, emphasised their importance in recognising bereaved parents' grief and offering support.
Andy MacNae
Con
Rossendale and Darwen
The debate highlights the decline in midwifery training placements, noting a reduction of an average of 10 fewer students compared to 2023. The speaker questions the government's commitment to train additional midwives as promised and raises concerns about potential strikes among healthcare workers that could threaten care for women and babies.
Jeremy Hunt
Con
Godalming
Hunt calls on the current Government to prioritise British medical graduates for specialist training places, pointing out a dramatic rise in the applicant-to-place ratio. He criticises the lack of urgency in progressing the Tobacco and Vapes Bill through Parliament.
Michelle Welsh
Con
Sherwood Forest
Welsh emphasises the systemic need to improve factors increasing risks for baby deaths, welcoming legislative measures introduced by previous governments but questioning the government's handling of these initiatives. She calls for improved pre-conception advice and better management of chronic conditions.
Michael Payne
Lab
Gedling
Payne highlights the importance of action based on the Ockenden review, which found preventable deaths in maternity services at Shrewsbury and Telford hospitals. He expresses concern about the reduction in funding for improvements from £95 million to £2 million.
Olivia Blake
Lab
Sheffield Hallam
Blake raises concerns over neonatal care, noting that one in seven babies require it and 1,933 died in such care in 2023. She calls for clear guidelines on the inclusion of neonatal services in forthcoming investigations.
Clapham
Ribeiro-Addy addresses issues of racial disparity in maternal and baby loss, urging the Secretary of State to update on progress towards closing this gap as promised by his government.
The debate focused on addressing systemic challenges and racial/class inequalities within maternal healthcare, with emphasis on changing policies that disproportionately affect minority women. The lead MP highlighted the need for urgent action following testimonies of trauma and racism faced by mothers.
They highlighted the shocking racial and class inequalities in maternal healthcare. They cited direct experiences of overt racism where black women were assumed to be strong and needed less pain relief, and Asian mothers were described as divas.
Hon. Member for Dorking and Horley
Chris Coghlan
He discussed the tragedy of Billy and his parents and the need to turn this into positive change through actionable measures that make real differences in maternal healthcare policies.
Government Response
The minister acknowledges the contributions made during the debate, thanking Members who shared their personal stories. He emphasises the need for action rather than words and expresses his commitment to addressing the issues raised. The minister also notes ongoing efforts such as baby loss certificates and expanding training programmes.
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