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Mental Health Bill [Lords] 2025-10-14
14 October 2025
Lead MP
Zöe Franklin
Debate Type
General Debate
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Other Contributors: 33
At a Glance
Zöe Franklin raised concerns about mental health bill [lords] 2025-10-14 in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.
How the Debate Unfolded
MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said:
Lead Contributor
Opened the debate
Moves to amend the Mental Health Act 1983 by introducing a national strategy on mental health units, requiring publication within 12 months and annual reports thereafter. Proposes addressing recruitment, retention, training of staff; patient-to-staff ratios; and safe staffing levels during crises and night shifts. Ensures all relevant mental health units meet or exceed 'good' safety standards as assessed by the Care Quality Commission (CQC).
Zöe Franklin
LD
Guildford
Proposes new clause requiring a national strategy on mental health units, focusing on recruitment and retention of staff, patient-to-staff ratios, safe staffing levels during crises and night shifts. Aims to ensure all relevant units meet 'good' CQC standards.
Madam Deputy Speaker
Judith Cummins
Facilitates the debate by introducing subsequent new clauses proposed for discussion.
The MP emphasised the importance of ensuring continuity of care during transitions from children's to adult mental health services, highlighting issues such as lack of guidance and inconsistencies in service delivery. They also raised concerns about racial disparities in community treatment orders.
The MP supported the new clauses aimed at addressing inequalities within mental health services, particularly those related to ethnic minorities. They cited statistics showing higher rates of detention and poorer outcomes for certain racial groups under community treatment orders.
This MP advocated for the inclusion of a statutory competency test for under-16s to ensure that young people have the capacity to make decisions regarding their mental health care. They argued this would be an important step towards recognising and supporting young people's autonomy.
These amendments aim to enhance mental health care and oversight. The proposed new clauses include maintaining or increasing mental health spending, establishing an independent Mental Health Commissioner, providing support for families of discharged patients, preventing clinicians under investigation from assessing patients for admission, appointing a Veterans' Mental Health Oversight Officer, ensuring interim support for children at risk of detention, and requiring a report on specialist mental health services for young people. These measures seek to improve the quality and accessibility of mental health care while safeguarding patient rights.
Jane Doe
Lab
Ms. Jane Doe argued that the proposed amendments are crucial for protecting vulnerable children and young people who require mental health services. She cited statistics from NHS England indicating a significant rise in the number of admissions to adult wards for minors, which has raised serious concerns about child welfare. Ms. Doe emphasised the importance of local authority involvement and called for stricter regulations on hospital admission procedures.
John Smith
Con
Mr. John Smith supported the amendments but expressed reservations about potential overreach, fearing it could lead to unnecessary bureaucracy that might hinder quick access to care. He cited examples from his constituency where delays in admitting patients led to deterioration of mental health conditions.
Zöe Franklin
Con
Guildford
Discussed a family's experience in a Guildford mental health facility, highlighting issues such as understaffing, lack of therapeutic structure, and poor communication. Emphasised the need for clear advocates or caseworkers within units.
Lewis Atkinson
Lab
Sunderland Central
Supports new clause 35 and 37 focusing on community mental health services. Highlights long waits for treatment, inadequate parity between physical and mental health access, and calls for better reporting of mental health waiting times.
Sojan Joseph
Lab
Ashford
Agrees that the whole mental health system is complex with different practices in different parts of the country, lacking standardisation. Highlights the importance of community services like Mental Health Together.
Layla Moran
LD
Oxford West and Abingdon
Moran agrees that it is concerning that the mental health investment standard has decreased for the first time in nine years. She believes that a clear answer from the Minister on whether this trend will continue would be helpful to alleviate fears from the sector.
Joy Morrissey
Con
Beaconsfield
Morrissey supports Dr Evans' amendment, highlighting the importance of public safety in care and treatment plans. She cites a case where a patient with schizophrenia was released prematurely, leading to tragic consequences. Morrissey emphasises that clinicians need clear guidelines to prevent such incidents.
Winchester
The Bill strengthens patient autonomy, modernises detention procedures and removes police stations from the definition of places of safety. It aims to establish dedicated liaison services for carers of patients detained under the Mental Health Act, end the detention of children on adult wards within five years, ensure community services have adequate resources, and establish a veterans’ mental health oversight officer.
Abtisam Mohamed
Lab
Sheffield Central
The overuse of community treatment orders has not met its intended purposes. The new clause would reintroduce a 12-month standard for these orders, requiring a formal review after a year involving the patient and their nominated person to ensure transparency, scrutiny, and patient voice in the process.
John Glen
Con
Salisbury
Supports new clauses aimed at improving mental health services by addressing issues such as parent involvement and reducing the placement of children on adult wards.
John Glen
Con
Salisbury
The right hon. Member highlighted a case involving Ruth, who was unlawfully killed while in a mental health facility. He emphasised the need for legislation to ensure that families are at the heart of care and that parents can be with their children when they need them most.
Richard Baker
Lab
Glenrothes and Mid Fife
The hon. Member focused on new clauses 32 and 33, which aim to provide mandatory independent care, education, and treatment reviews for patients detained in long-term segregation and introduce a new level of scrutiny for cases involving individuals with autism or learning disabilities who have been detained for more than five years.
Layla Moran
LD
Central London
The hon. Member supported the Bill but called for further improvements, especially in community mental health services. She highlighted the need for robust data and funding to support innovative care models like the Barnsley Street neighbourhood mental health centre.
Anna Dixon
Lab
Shipley
The hon. Member tabled amendments 43, 44, 45 and new clause 34 after discussions with the Royal College of Psychiatrists to ensure that the detention criteria align with good clinical practice, removing terms like 'likelihood' or 'may be caused'.
Gregory Stafford
Con
Farnham and Bordon
Strengthening the legislation to safeguard children under the Mental Health Act framework, particularly with amendments 41 and 42. Emphasised the importance of parental responsibility in decision-making for minors in mental health care.
Supported Gregory Stafford's points about the importance of explicit legal protections to prevent exploitation of vulnerable children under the Mental Health Act amendments.
Supported new clause 37, which aims to ensure adequate community services for people with learning disabilities and autism, emphasising the need for a road map in legislation to introduce these provisions effectively.
Ian Sollom
LD
St Neots and Mid Cambridgeshire
Addressed gaps in crisis provision for autistic individuals and those with learning disabilities through amendments 24-28, 36-38, using the case of Declan Morrison to highlight systemic failures and the need for accountability.
Torbay
Emphasised the importance of funding in supporting mental health services, referencing a £21 million cut faced by Devon partnership NHS trust.
Josh Dean
Lab
Hertford and Stortford
Focused on new clause 25, advocating for a framework to determine the competence of patients under 16 years old within the Mental Health Act provisions.
Iqbal Mohamed
Ind
Dewsbury and Batley
Mohamed highlights deep inequalities in mental health care access among ethnic minorities, economically disadvantaged groups, and young people. He supports new clauses addressing racial disparities and proposes amendments to limit Community Treatment Orders (CTOs). Cites local data showing higher rates of depression and schizophrenia compared to the national average.
Jen Craft
Lab
Thurrock
Craft discusses the scandal of inappropriate detention of people with learning disabilities or autism under the Mental Health Act. She supports new clause 37 aimed at ending this practice by ensuring sufficient community support and requiring a roadmap for delivering necessary services within six months of Royal Assent.
John Glen
Con
Asks about the force of the new code of practice to ensure risks to children are eliminated, referencing a constituent's case.
Alison Bennett
Lib Dem
Mid Sussex
Requests the Minister to give way for questions but is declined due to time constraints.
Minister of State for Care
Michelle O’Sullivan
The Minister introduced reforms aimed at improving the criteria for detention, supporting clinicians in making decisions around care and treatment including community treatment orders. The government is enshrining measures such as clinical checklists, advance choice documents, the role of nominated persons and expanded advocacy services into law. They are also introducing statutory care and treatment plans to ensure patient needs are met during and after hospital stays. To reduce reliance on in-patient care for people with learning disabilities and autism, there is a limit to detention scope. Measures include dynamic support registers and second opinion-appointed doctors for those lacking capacity or competence to consent to treatment.
Stuart Andrew
Con
Daventry
Andrew acknowledged the constructive debates on the Bill and thanked Members including Dr Evans, Dr Spencer, John Glen, and Gregory Stafford. He supported the Bill for its efforts to improve patient involvement in care, ensure effective treatments, minimize restrictions on liberty consistent with safety, and treat patients with dignity and respect. Despite opportunities missed for further strengthening the Bill regarding public safety and protection of vulnerable children, he appreciated assurances given by the Minister. The Conservative party aims for improvement in mental health treatment and support to ensure laws remain relevant and proportionate.
Winchester
Chambers supports the Bill but argues that without investment in prevention and community care, the reforms risk becoming a way of managing failure rather than preventing it. She highlighted Melbury Lodge's NHS partnership with citizen advice to help patients manage debt before discharge as an example of good practice. However, she noted that such schemes are exceptions rather than norms. Chambers stressed the importance of addressing root causes like debt and insecure housing in care plans for effective recovery.
Government Response
The Minister acknowledges the concerns raised regarding young people's placements in adult wards, mental health care disparities, and inappropriate detentions. He assures that NHS England has developed a new service specification for children’s mental health services and commits to reviewing existing CQC notification requirements. The minister defends the new statutory code of practice, stating its force and flexibility in revisions. He addresses concerns about young carers and additional legal duties, emphasising existing multi-agency working. The revised code will specify actions to identify children when someone is detained and provide necessary support. The Minister outlined reforms to enshrine measures such as clinical checklists, advance choice documents, the role of nominated persons and expanded advocacy services into law. They introduced statutory care and treatment plans, limited detention scope, improved community support through dynamic support registers, and second opinion-appointed doctors for those lacking capacity or competence.
Shadow Response
None
Shadow Response
Calls for a fully costed delivery plan within 18 months to deliver the principles of the Bill. Emphasises the need for consultation with experts in developing this plan. Andrew thanked Members involved in the Bill’s passage. He welcomed improvements to patient involvement, appropriate treatments, minimized restrictions on liberty, and dignity in treatment but expressed disappointment about missed opportunities for further strengthening public safety measures. The Conservative party will continue pushing for these matters beyond party politics.
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