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House of Commons · Ministerial Statement

Police Reform 2025-11-13

13 November 2025 · 45 other contributors

Opened by The Minister for Policing and Crime Sarah Jones

Summarised by AI from the official record, so it can contain mistakes.

At a glance

The Minister for Policing and Crime raised concerns about police reform 2025-11-13 in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.

Key points

  • Minister expressed sadness at the passing of Baroness Newlove, the Victims' Commissioner
  • Then Home Secretary announced intention to bring forward a White Paper on police reform
  • Model proposed aims to increase accountability and connection between policing and local communities

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Government Statement

Let me begin by expressing my sadness at the passing of Baroness Newlove, the Victims’ Commissioner. The then Home Secretary announced her intention to bring forward a White Paper on police reform, outlining reforms that will drive quality, consistency, and efficiency in policing. The model was created to increase accountability and build a greater connection between policing and local communities by having a single public official responsible for holding their chief constable to account, setting the local police budget, and agreeing strategic priorities through their local police and crime plan. However, while PCCs have sought to provide strong oversight and drive crime prevention activity locally, the model has failed to live up to expectations. Public understanding of PCCs remains low despite efforts; less than a quarter of voters turned out in 2024 elections, and two in five people are unaware that PCCs exist. The Theresa May model has not worked, leading to the announcement to transfer policing functions to elected mayors in England by default wherever geographies allow. Five mayors now hold policing functions, delivering benefits like greater collaboration, visible leadership, and local innovation. We will abolish police and crime commissioners at the end of their current term in 2028 and establish new policing and crime boards until such time as mayors are in place, which will replicate the benefits of a mayoralty before the formal transfer can be realised, with built-in collaboration, public accountability, and a greater ability to join up budgets and local services. We estimate that at least £100 million will be saved this Parliament by moving to these new arrangements, enough to fund around 320 extra police constables.

Other contributors (45)
  • Chris Philp Con Croydon South

    Question

    When can we expect the White Paper on police reform?

    Minister reply

    The Minister is not entirely clear whether or not the shadow Home Secretary is in favour of this announcement.

  • Lewis Atkinson Lab Sunderland Central

    Question

    How will the Minister ensure that savings resulting from these changes are reinvested in frontline policing, especially in places like Sunderland which lost many officers under the previous government?

    Minister reply

    The aim is to put police back into communities where they belong. Savings from reforms will be used to reduce bureaucratic tasks and focus on deploying more police officers to their proper roles.

  • Ben Maguire LD North Cornwall

    Question

    Will the Minister commit to investing saved funds directly into frontline policing? What safeguards will ensure mayors are held accountable for their new responsibilities?

    Minister reply

    The Government aims to reinvest savings from PCCs back into policing. Safeguards include moving functions of PCCs into existing mayoral structures and continuing the role of PCCs in areas without mayoral models until 2027.

  • Stella Creasy Lab/Co-op Walthamstow

    Question

    What lessons are being learned for localised engagement in London, where borough-wide challenges exist and community meetings often face bureaucratic barriers?

    Minister reply

    Local leaders should meet Members of Parliament regularly to foster better understanding and collaboration between police chiefs and communities.

  • Edward Leigh Con Gainsborough

    Question

    Will the Minister commit to proper funding for Lincolnshire’s force, which faces bankruptcy due to being underfunded?

    Minister reply

    The Minister is aware of the challenges in Lincolnshire and will work closely on the upcoming funding settlement before the end of the year.

  • Jonathan Hinder Lab Pendle and Clitheroe

    Question

    While welcoming the abolition of PCCs, how does the Minister honour those who have served in this role?

    Minister reply

    The Minister paid tribute to Marc Jones and other police and crime commissioners for their service.

  • Question

    Can she talk about how we can get more high-quality candidates to apply to become chief constables, and about how their relationship with the deputy mayors might operate?

    Minister reply

    There has been a reduction in the number of years for which police chiefs serve, from about five to two and a half. There are also fewer people applying for such jobs as they become available. We want really healthy competition for these roles, which are very significant and important to us.

  • Question

    While paying tribute to Kent’s police and crime commissioner, may I ask about the arrangements in areas where there is not a mayor?

    Minister reply

    The higher-tier authority leaders will provide the board, and there will be a paid person who is the police and crime lead. In some cases, it may be that they are the police and crime commissioner if local authorities make that decision.

  • Question

    May I place on the record my thanks to John Tizard for his work? May I press the Minister on the steps being taken to ensure a smooth transition from PCCs to mayor-led or council-led oversight?

    Minister reply

    The police and crime commissioner model will be abolished at the end of the existing term of office, in May 2028. The transition will be overseen by a small programme team in the Home Office, and the legal framework is expected to be included in a second-Session police reform Bill.

  • Question

    Does the Minister agree that the greatest reform needed to improve policing efficiency is sufficient funding?

    Minister reply

    Funding is enormously important, and we are providing our police with a real-terms funding uplift this year. However, if we look at day-to-day activities of many officers, they cannot be productive because of ancient systems in place.

  • Question

    Does the Minister agree that the money would be better reinvested in visible frontline policing?

    Minister reply

    I could not agree more with my hon. Friend. I think the PCSO model is extraordinarily successful, and one of the awfully sad things that happened under the last Government is that this model was completely decimated.

  • Question

    What commitment can the new Policing Minister offer me that she will completely overhaul the formula as part of the forthcoming police funding settlement?

    Minister reply

    The funding allocation will be made in the usual way before the end of the year. There is more money going into policing this year and we will ensure that it is given to where it is needed.

  • Question

    Does the Minister agree that it is vital that we redouble our efforts to move at real pace to ensure there is a mayor in every area of England?

    Minister reply

    I believe the mayoral model to be a good one. I think most people see the benefits, and on the whole this Government are in favour of ensuring we have the mayoral model where we can.

  • Question

    The announcement today is on police and crime commissioners, which will not change those boundaries.

  • Andy McDonald Lab Middlesbrough and Thornaby East

    Question

    I thank the Minister for her statement. I whole-heartedly agree that the public have not bought into this model, but that does not mean there has not been some excellent work done by PCCs and their staff with great commitment and professionalism.

    Minister reply

    I thank my hon. Friend for his thoughtful question, and I join him in paying tribute to Matt Storey. We are learning lessons from the transition process and ensuring that statutory responsibilities such as victim services will be maintained.

  • Rachel Gilmour LD Tiverton and Minehead

    Question

    I welcome the Government’s decision, which I think is long overdue. I thank Clare Moody, the PCC for Somerset, who has worked very hard with me over the last 18 months and has visited my constituency three times.

    Minister reply

    I am very sorry to hear about the incidents of crime that the hon. Lady mentioned. Rural crime is incredibly important, and we are working on the rural crime strategy. I join her in praising Clare Moody for her work.

  • Sonia Kumar Lab Dudley

    Question

    I welcome the Labour Government’s progress on policing, including Dudley town centre’s new police station, which will open this year, and the new police officers being redeployed to Dudley borough in April.

    Minister reply

    My hon. Friend is right to raise the funding formula. The White Paper on police reform will introduce significant changes to how we do policing, making it more efficient and targeted at crimes.

  • Simon Hoare Con North Dorset

    Question

    May I put it on the record, on behalf of my constituents, that both Martyn Underhill, the initial Dorset police and crime commissioner, and the current PCC, David Sidwick, have done sterling work with their teams to protect and look after my constituents over the years they have served?

    Minister reply

    I thank the hon. Gentleman for his question and join him in praising Martyn Underhill and David Sidwick for their work. The police and crime commissioner models that do work will be made normative.

  • Greg Smith Con Mid Buckinghamshire

    Question

    In Thames Valley, we are fortunate enough to have a model that is working under the leadership of Matthew Barber, our police and crime commissioner. Police numbers have gone up, and he has led the creation of the country’s best rural crime taskforce.

    Minister reply

    I join in the praise for the hon. Gentleman’s police and crime commissioner but I am not criticising the work individuals have done; we believe the model has not worked.

  • Amanda Hack Lab North West Leicestershire

    Question

    My constituents want a focus on neighbourhood policing, improving standards and a major police station in the local area. However, after an excellent PCC in Lord Willy Bach, our current PCC has created an office mired with controversy.

    Minister reply

    I can absolutely confirm that the focus will be on providing the best possible service to our communities, including neighbourhood policing and holding the police accountable for their actions.

  • Ann Davies PC Caerfyrddin

    Question

    May I thank Dafydd Llywelyn for his excellent work on rural crime and domestic abuse?

    Minister reply

    I thank the hon. Lady for her promotion; this announcement is not about devolution of policing but structural changes to a model that simply was not working.

  • Jeevun Sandher Lab Loughborough

    Question

    Across Loughborough, motorbikes have been stolen for years and years; it is a huge scourge. I am glad that recent police operations helped to seize some of those bikes.

    Minister reply

    My hon. Friend raises an important point about his constituents’ concerns. The savings from the programme will fund up to 320 police constables or 430 PCSOs, showing the value for money they bring.

  • Andrew Murrison Con South West Wiltshire

    Question

    Will the Minister pay tribute to Philip Wilkinson, Wiltshire’s PCC, who has realigned policing in my county with the priorities of my constituents?

    Minister reply

    I thank the right hon. Gentleman for his question and join him in paying tribute to Philip Wilkinson for his work. The lion's share of £100 million is from abolished elections; we are driving efficiencies and ensuring important statutory functions are maintained.

  • Question

    Can the Minister look again at the police funding formula, as it fails on rurality and summer seasonal pressures?

    Minister reply

    The funding formula allocations will be announced before the end of the year. We are aware of concerns about the funding formula and we aim to address these issues.

  • Question

    Will the money saved from today’s announcement be used to reopen closed front desks in Bicester and Kidlington?

    Minister reply

    It is for local police areas to decide how they use their funding. Our priority is to get more officers on the streets to improve neighbourhood policing.

  • Question

    Will the Minister meet me and Sarah Taylor, Norfolk’s police and crime commissioner, to discuss ensuring that existing partnerships continue to serve the people of Norfolk?

    Minister reply

    I am always happy to meet and talk about these issues. We will ensure that we learn from previous transitions and avoid dropping any balls with regard to services provided to local people.

  • Question

    Will the Minister use her good offices to go to the Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government (MHCLG) and ensure that Spelthorne gets a mayor?

    Minister reply

    I will leave those decisions to my colleagues in MHCLG. I am happy to pass on the hon. Gentleman’s comments.

  • Question

    How might these changes tackle instances of antisocial behaviour where local authorities are failing as landlords?

    Minister reply

    We need everyone to feel responsible for preventing crime and working effectively together. We will ensure that the police, and the local authorities, have the right powers to take action in a speedy fashion.

  • Question

    Does the Minister recognise that abolishing police and crime scrutiny panels risks creating a chasm of scrutiny?

    Minister reply

    The accountability from elected local authority leaders will be powerful, but I am happy to work with the hon. Lady to ensure she gets what she wants locally.

  • Question

    Will the Minister join me in thanking Simon Foster for his work and assure me that good work established will continue?

    Minister reply

    I absolutely join my hon. Friend in praising Simon Foster and the work he has done.

  • Question

    Can the Minister categorically state that the Government will never allow a police merger between Suffolk and Norfolk?

    Minister reply

    The arrangements announced today are not changing the 43 models at all. We will bring forward reform for consideration.

  • Question

    Will the Minister ensure that any savings made by abolishing the PCC role are reinvested directly in frontline policing?

    Minister reply

    We will of course ensure that the money we save is directed to frontline policing, because that is where it needs to be.

  • Question

    What will happen if a police force area like mine is split between two mayors?

    Minister reply

    There are complexities to do with the mayoral model and how it is playing out that I am happy to discuss.

  • Question

    Can she confirm that the savings from this initiative will go to community policing, allowing West Mercia police to reverse the 8 pm PCSO cap?

    Minister reply

    We are meeting next week, so we can discuss this matter then. I am very happy to join in his praise for his Conservative police and crime commissioner.

  • Question

    Can the Minister explain why the Government think it is appropriate to have police governance by committee but not local authority governance by committee?

  • Allison Gardner Lab Stoke-on-Trent South

    Question

    Could the Minister reassure me that we will consider the fire service as well, and how oversight of it will be transitioned in areas like my area?

    Minister reply

    The transition to new structures will relate to both fire and policing. The role will move to the new police boards where relevant.

  • Sarah Pochin Reform Runcorn and Helsby

    Question

    Will the Minister explain how these reforms will deliver clearer accountability for policing in areas like my constituency?

    Minister reply

    Accountability will lie with the mayor or council leaders, depending on the model adopted. The White Paper will detail national-level accountability measures.

  • Alex Barros-Curtis Lab Cardiff West

    Question

    Can I ask that when she consults the Welsh Government, as she is right to do, she also consults Welsh Labour MPs? Will she meet me and other Cardiff MPs to talk about a fairer capital city funding deal?

    Minister reply

    I am happy to meet my hon. Friend and other MPs to discuss the future arrangements for Cardiff.

  • Rebecca Paul Con Reigate

    Question

    Can the Minister confirm what the announcement means for Surrey, given that we are moving to a unitary model but the Government have yet to confirm solidly that we are getting a mayor?

    Minister reply

    We will continue to work with local authorities and ensure smooth transitions where there are moving parts in legislation.

  • Tom Hayes Lab Bournemouth East

    Question

    Could the Minister please set out what she thinks are reasonable expectations when it comes to a chief constable engaging with local Members of Parliament?

    Minister reply

    It is incredibly important that chiefs have a good relationship with their local MPs, who bring valuable insight about local community needs.

  • Steff Aquarone LD North Norfolk

    Question

    How can we ensure that money goes to my residents' priorities such as vital safety improvements on the A148?

    Minister reply

    We will put the savings from abolishing PCCs into frontline services, including road safety reforms.

  • Chris Vince Lab/Co-op Harlow

    Question

    What difference will the decision make to residents in my constituency who are concerned about an historical lack of neighbourhood policing?

    Minister reply

    This money will help put more neighbourhood police officers into communities, which is a priority for this Government.

  • Jess Brown-Fuller LD Chichester

    Question

    Can the Minister confirm that the savings made will deliver more frontline policing in areas with low numbers of police officers?

    Minister reply

    Through neighbourhood policing policies, we intend to ensure there are more police on our streets and communities.

  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    Question

    Will she work alongside the relevant Minister in Northern Ireland to ensure effective policing with the moneys available?

    Minister reply

    I am happy to meet colleagues in Northern Ireland to share best practices on policing.

Shadow Comment

Chris Philp

The Minister mentioned the Government’s plans to bring forward a police reform White Paper announced about a year ago but there has not been a single sniff of it. Today’s statement represents tinkering around the edges from a failing government on crime and policing. Police numbers are falling, with 1,300 fewer during Labour’s first year in office. Crime is surging: shoplifting up by 13%, theft from the person by 5%, sexual offences by 9%. Senior police officers warn of funding crisis under this Government. Knife crime is up 86% under Sadiq Khan; the Met has a clear-up rate of 4.7%; and half the front counters in London have closed, with plummeting police numbers. The proposal will not save money but remove a directly elected public official accountable to the public more visible than a committee of local bureaucrats. This announcement is tinkering around the edges while crimes like shoplifting rocket, police numbers fall, and the police face a funding crisis.

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