Commons Sense

House of Commons · General Debate

Post Office Horizon Inquiry Volume 1 2025-07-08

08 July 2025 · 19 other contributors

Opened by Gareth Thomas Business and Trade Constituency

Summarised by AI from the official record, so it can contain mistakes.

At a glance

Gareth Thomas raised concerns about post office horizon inquiry volume 1 2025-07-08 in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.

Key points

  • Sir Wyn Williams has released the first volume of his report on the Horizon scandal.
  • The Government will quadruple compensation from 236 million to nearly 1.1 billion.
  • The Minister commits to meeting Sir Wyn's deadline of 10 October.

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Gareth Thomas Business and Trade Constituency

Sir Wyn Williams has released the first volume of his report into the Horizon scandal, which caused significant harm to postmasters. The Minister emphasises the bravery of those who fought for recognition and outlines the Government's response, including quadrupling compensation from £236 million to nearly £1.1 billion. The Government will meet Sir Wyn’s deadline of 10 October and address all recommendations promptly.

Other contributors (19)
  • Harriett Baldwin Con West Worcestershire

    Welcomes the release of volume one but raises concerns about the delays in compensation, calling for a clear response from the Government by 10 October on all 19 recommendations. Criticises oversight failures and asks about steps to address delays and ensure full compensation. Questions Fujitsu's role and its contribution to redress schemes.

  • Jo Hamilton Lab West Ham

    The hon. Lady rightly gives me the opportunity to again pay tribute... She knows that Sir Wyn Williams is due to publish the second part of his report, which focuses on those very questions.

  • Liam Byrne Lab Birmingham Hodge Hill and Solihull North

    On behalf of our Committee, I welcome this report from Sir Wyn Williams... Does the Minister also accept that we must now, once and for all, strip the Post Office of any role in the Horizon shortfall scheme?

  • I want to take this opportunity again to pay tribute to the work of the Business and Trade Committee under my right hon. Friend’s chairmanship... I hope that we will be able to give confidence to those people that they will have a chance to get full and fair redress.

  • Sarah Olney LD Richmond Park

    I thank the Minister for giving me advance sight of his statement... What conversations have the Government had with the Post Office and Fujitsu about restorative justice in the light of Sir Wyn’s recommendations?

  • Kate Osborne Lab Jarrow and Gateshead East

    Kate Osborne highlighted the role of Fujitsu in contributing to compensation and urged the Government to stop awarding contracts to Fujitsu, citing a specific HMRC contract worth £355 million. She also emphasised the moral obligation for Fujitsu to contribute towards the costs of the scandal.

  • As Minister, Gareth Thomas acknowledged the ongoing work on compensation schemes and highlighted that 100 police officers are investigating the scandal. He promised a pilot scheme with 150 cases for redress to victims and confirmed discussions with Fujitsu regarding interim payments.

  • Andrew Mitchell Con Sutton Coldfield

    Sir Andrew Mitchell questioned the effectiveness of Parliament in addressing such scandals, suggesting that state institutions should hold those responsible accountable. He highlighted his previous efforts to raise awareness about the scandal since 2020.

  • Tulip Siddiq Lab Hampstead and Highgate

    Siddiq pointed out that the scandal disproportionately affected people from black, Asian and minority ethnic backgrounds. She questioned whether the report adequately addressed this disparity and urged the Minister to address it moving forward.

  • Chris Law SNP Dundee Central

    Law criticised the Government for not addressing compensation delays quickly enough and emphasised that victims continue to face an adversarial attitude from the Post Office. He quoted his previous statement on 'justice delayed is justice denied.'

  • Ian Byrne Lab Liverpool West Derby

    Byrne stressed the need for transparency in identifying those responsible and highlighted historical cover-ups similar to the contaminated blood scandal, urging full enactment of laws like the Hillsborough law.

  • Julian Lewis Con New Forest East

    Lewis suggested looking at the experience of the compensation body dealing with contaminated blood scandals for better handling future disasters and ensuring more efficient delivery of compensation.

  • Gareth Thomas Con Not specified

    Commends the consistent campaigning on this issue and underlines Fujitsu's moral responsibility. Welcomes Fujitsu's acceptance of their obligation but emphasises the importance of Sir Wyn Williams' report for understanding the scale of responsibilities. Calls for an interim payment from Fujitsu.

  • Christine Jardine LD Edinburgh West

    Raises concerns about a constituent who has been unfairly dismissed due to the Horizon scandal and is still waiting for recognition and compensation. Asks the Minister what will be done to speed up the process.

  • Acknowledges Christine Jardine's point and offers reassurance that the publication of Sir Wyn Williams' report should encourage more victims to come forward with claims. Emphasises his determination to move forward on the specific case discussed.

  • David Davis Con Goole and Pocklington

    Brings up a constituent, Janet Skinner, who has been struggling for 18 years for compensation after wrongful conviction. Asks the Minister to commit to solving these issues in months rather than years.

  • Agrees with David Davis' challenge and recognises that every victim waiting for compensation has waited too long. Acknowledges progress made over the last 12 months but commits to going further and faster.

  • Sammy Wilson DUP East Antrim

    Welcomes Sir Wyn Williams' report and criticises Post Office officials for their obstructionist tactics, leading to delays in providing necessary documentation. Calls for the removal of Post Office from the compensation process.

  • Recognises scepticism about Post Office's role but argues that removing them would delay compensation further. Acknowledges Sir Wyn Williams' recommendations and his 19 suggestions to go faster, with some needing more detailed review before action.

Government Response

The Government is committed to meeting Sir Wyn Williams' deadline of 10 October. Acknowledges the ongoing work on compensation schemes, redress for family members affected by the scandal, and discussions with Fujitsu regarding their contribution. I welcome the hon. Lady’s comments, and I welcome the challenge to the Government... We will think through the different steps that we need to take in that regard. Minister Gareth Thomas emphasised ongoing work on delivering fair redress to victims, discussed negotiations with Fujitsu for interim payments, and committed to transparency in identifying those responsible through Sir Wyn’s final report. Underlines Fujitsu's moral responsibility and welcomes their acceptance of the obligation. Acknowledges the need for an interim payment from Fujitsu based on Sir Wyn Williams' report, which will understand the scale of responsibilities better. Reassures Christine Jardine that publication of the report should encourage more victims to come forward with claims. Commits to solving issues in months rather than years after David Davis' challenge and acknowledges progress but commits to going further and faster despite Post Office's role.

Shadow Response

Dame Harriett Baldwin

Welcomes the report but criticises delays in compensation and oversight failures. Asks for a clear response from the Government by 10 October on all recommendations, questions Fujitsu's role, and seeks updates on progress of securing a new computer system.

▸ Assessment & feedback
Summary accuracy